The Sword of Rhivenia: Book One (CHECK #3830)

I am so happy the poor thing survived and went to europe! I am also from europe so I am double happy! :face_holding_back_tears:

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Would love to say we welcome everyone here but giving how far right parties are on the rise it would be a big fat lie. Hopefully Nutella gets the best european experience while she is on the continent as she certainly deserves it.

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Wow it’s been like 6-9 months since I bothered to check out this one if I remember correctly, glad to see the author is alive and well I was honestly more worried about their well-being than the story itself after a certain point.

Anyway looking forward to any news regarding the story since it’s an apparent remake of the first if I read the post right, it will be very interesting to see what changes are made.

Looking forward to it and welcome back :tada:

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I used to pray for times like this

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I am happy that the author is back . I loved book 1 very much and I look forward to book 2 . I hope it will be good like the first one

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Thought I’d pitch in here as well to mention that she posted a public patreon post link here
A brief summary:
The post goes more into depth of her plans with the series such as her re-writing book 1, she wanted to move it to twine but HG didn’t want to remove the game from their label so she is kind of forced to stick with choicescript and them for this IP.
On Sunday she will release a public demo of four chapters and a patreon with five.

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… I’m selfishly happy with that. Is that bad? I’ve never used twine.

But the decision from HG makes sense, to be honest. They are the publisher of the game, I’m sure they wouldn’t want their customers all going over to someone else to play a game that already exists in one form. So I can’t blame them for this decision.

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So many projects have disappeared from the past, it’s that time of year

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Yes. You shouldn’t be happy the author cant choose what do to with their IP.

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At least Twine actually has save and load system.

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CoG/HG puts fewer restrictions on authors’ IP use than any other publisher I know of.

Literally the only thing they ask you to sign away is the right to publish the same story in a competing format. Want to publish a Rhivenia novel or screenplay using only characters,
plot points and dialogue from your already-published game? No problem. Want to self-publish all the sequels in Twine? Again, no problem. Both of those are uncommon levels of IP freedom in the publishing world.

Want to republish Rhivenia 1 in another IF form? That’s the one thing they ask you not to do if they’re going to publish your work…and the author freely signed a contract committing to that. I don’t think that’s an exploitative clause; frankly, I think an author that tried to sell the same work to multiple publishers would be the exploiter, not exploited.

tl;dr - the author did choose what to do with the Game 1 IP.

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So does Choicescript, so it’s hardly an advantage for either platform. Twine has upper hand when it comes to adding gfx elements and such, but given that a lot of IF readers declare they can’t stand images in their IF, i’m not sure if platform change was the best thing to spend extra effort on.

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Not a high bar to clear.

Not saying that the author wasnt aware of her contract or that HG is taling advantage oh her, she was fully aware of what limitations HG estabilishes to publish a book.

Just dont see the point in acting like the only rigid limitation they impose isnt there only for the company to make more money and the author to make less.

Also, saying that authors, people (that to my knowledge) dont make a lot of money would be “exploiting” a multi-million dollar business is just so silly.

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The same could be said of the company keeping even 10% of the game’s royalties. But that would be a silly, unnecessarily tendentious way of framing a reasonable benefit-sharing arrangement between author and publisher.

As published authors know, I think CoG could and should be offering HG authors a better royalties deal. But when it comes to IP, any publishing company that wants to stay in business is going to at a minimum require its authors to not sell the same work to a direct competitor. If HG fans get into the habit of complaining about the reasonable terms in HG contracts, it’s not going to help us make the case for changes to the less justifiable ones.

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I mean the submitted complete product not WIP.
Most COG and HG don’t have save system.
And I used to not like twine and images until l played the best IF in existence in there

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Yes, but that’s because most of them were made when save system wasn’t conveniently available. Since that’s no longer the case you don’t need to base your platform choice on this.

I mean, even as the player you can add save system to any existing CS game with quite literally two clicks (with instructions from here) so “painful” is a bit of an exaggeration, perhaps.

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That is the painful part. They could, but they won’t. This is why I respect the author of The war for the west and The Vampire regent caused they actually did do it.

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Maybe. But I’m happy because I just like the simple style. It’s perfect for reading on a smartphone. Much better than most mobile versions (if there’s even mobile version…) of Twine games.

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Depends, if it’s just you being happy that you don’t have to use something unfamiliar, then no. However if they did switch to twine and you got angry and acted out in that anger then yes that would be bad.

That looks quite interesting I’m definitely going to read that

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Guess I should probably resubscribe to the patreon…
But unfortunate that the story can’t be moved to twine (I like it’s formating better) but makes sense. Also interesting that sequels to hosted games can be self published through twine! Anyways, hype for the rewritten game.

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