The Sword of Rhivenia: Book One (CHECK #3830)

It sounds interesting, innit? I do hope there’ll be an public demo for the second chapter like this one.

You and me both.

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me too

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I think if you keep metteo alive,It will be useful in the future. you can use him against his sister,becaus he love mc mother ,he will not harm you.And If you forgive him even if no one does ,It make you are special people for him . It will make him devote and loyal to you .(Metteo normally is honorable man.he never will not betray you )

I dont feel like he is honourable anymore. He has no regrets and frankly there wasnt even a good reason to posion the king. It will also be quite a mess for us if he decides to tell the truth. The people are already doubting us, if the siblings come to know about this, they too, will start doubting us. So I hope there is a option where we can convince Matteo to keep it a secret.

Well, since i am romancing Astryn, that won’t be an option for me… Lol , but at least i can gain Matteo’s allegiance no matter what , that count for something.

I had play the RPG classic Planescape : Torment, and within there was a philosophical quote "What change the nature of man ? " , one of the answer is “Love” , and that might be the reason for Prince Francis change of nature, well, if my romance route with Astryn continue carry on, i might be change my nature as well …Lol

I hope so :smiley:

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the king mistreat his wife (even if his wife has guilty).playing favorite among wive, ignoring children (abusive children indirectly) whose woman he love.The King who is father never will love mc and their sisters ,only because you/they are part of woman he hate the most. For me The king not deserve forgiveness more than him and deserve to die in the worst way . The king is terrible father, brother and leader.(I think that The king like Robert Baratheon in Game of Throne )

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I think this win-win situation for us .

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I mean he has no regrets when knew the consequences of his actions will tear his sister and Richard. He didnt care for their feelings, the entire kindgom is destabilised because of his love for the queen, we are required to take up the mantle on the brink of war with no experience and little knowledge on warfare.
I have a question for those who chose Clara’s route, does Richard start behaving like Matteo? Becoming all obsessed and hellbent on killing us or dethroning us if we are the ruler?

Technically ‘no’ in the sense that he doesn’t act like he wants to murder or dethrone us.

However, when we’re visiting town and are getting hassled by one of our own knights, he shows enjoyment in our struggle that our people hate us.

His love for Clara does seem the closest it has ever been to obsession in the game, but it’s more that he’s upset we romanced her knowing he had feelings for her since childhood (keep in mind most of his Clara fixation moments in book 1 are when he was a 10-14 years old). His anger clouds his judgement and he begins viewing it as us “making” her love us. So he’s like Matteo in the sense that his own feelings of jealousy distort his perception on things because he’s blinded by his fixation on this girl he’s loved for a very long time.

Honestly, if it weren’t for the fact that Clara can have feelings for him (so their relationship is mutual) I’d be a tad concerned lmao. I guess that’s one thing he’s got going for him since our mother never liked Matteo remotely, whereas Clara genuinely can love him if we don’t go for her.

I think so long as we show concern and care for him outside of the Clara marriage, he won’t go full Matteo on us as I feel like outside of his anger he does still love our character as family (though it depends on how you treat him generally speaking).

Now whether it evolves into that in the future, I’ve no clue. All I can say is that given Nutella’s comments on Tumblr, it seems like we’ll be able to reconcile with him eventually if we choose to do so, so it’s not like romancing Clara instantly cements your relationship with him.

The GOOD thing is that he never takes his emotions out on Clara and according to Nutella he never will fault her or force her to be with him, and will actually be more angry at us if we break her heart over being with her in the first place. So to me, there’s little moments like that where I don’t think he’d turn completely into Matteo unless we push him to. Given that he values Clara’s feelings, I can’t see him ever killing us personally, but I can see him not protecting us if we’re in danger and allowing it to happen outside of his own actions, maybe fanning the flames of hatred towards us using his influence on the people.

I think there’s a pattern of siblings taking on traits of people who had a bad outcome with the King but in our case we actually have chances to sway them away from it. Frey can become like Francis if we let her, and likewise Richard can probably become like Matteo if we treat him like dogshit after everything. Like seeds being planted that we can choose to water or not.

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If you ask me that If I were him,I’m no regret what I have done to the King.:joy: :joy:

everyone has own selfishness . Isabella doesn’t care anything (try to harm mc indirectly ,maybe kill , plan to coup for her son, pray mc failure or wish mc die ) If she can avenge on mc mother who her brother love , Richarh doesn’t care anything even if his kingdom will fall If he do whatever for being with Clara or marrying only her . Freya doesn’t care anything If she can threaten or will harm mc to save her lover (she doesn’t care that her action can make Rhivenain hate MC Ruler more ,put Mc in danger or ruine thier reputation badly). Even if our father maybe doesn’t care anything if he think what thing he do is for his people or satisfies his own ambious and ego (้the same as he can kill his favorite brother , he doesn’t care about his brother’s feeling, lover or child ) etc.

From above ,Everyone has common things that they have no regret about what they do and don’t care about their consequence,the same as Metteo does (Mettoe remind me Jamie Lannister )

I think Richarh will not overthrone you even if you have Clara but his mother will do .

I don’t like Clara anyway. It seem like she try to play both MC and Richarh. I think that deeply she are not purely innocent or naive.(Maybe Amice,The maid who bullies Clara,feel the same :joy: :joy: :joy:)

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If Astryd is alive then the only way to keep Gaverin as your ally is to blame a random soldier for what Astryd did, either killing or banishing Matteo and telling the other it was Matteo who poisoned Charles.

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you can marry xavier whether you’re a ruler or not. you can only marry lena if you are the ruler, though.

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Oh Lena called me a fool when I asked her if I can marry xavier. So he basically defected and came over to this side. And we are still not allied with Lena and Xavier will have to fight his own sister. So we can still marry him but no titles or such then.
I feel as if being a ruler is more advantageous. Atheris makes an enemy out of Richard. And if Richard becomes the king I feel we will incur heavy losses even if we win the war. But when the mc becomes the ruler, there is a sort of truce between them both, at least i hope it is that, because of their shared affection for the mc. Even if Atheris or Richard ends up being manipulated I feel as if we will have more ways to stop her as both have a close bond with the mc. I hope thats the case at least

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Why Mc is only Alvena favorite ? I feel Alvena very close with Mc more than Atheris or Freya

According to Nutella, MC is Alvena’s favourite child (unless you have a bad relationship with her, then it’s Freya) and Atheris is her least.

Apparently Atheris is the least favourite for both our parents because she doesn’t think before she speaks and in Alvena’s case, has a tendency of embarrassing our mother in front of everyone, such as at the dinner table scene with Queen Isabelle. She’s a straightforward person and that rubs some people the wrong way.

I’m guessing we’re her favourite because we’re a healthy balance of both Atheris and Freya. We’re strong and assertive like Atheris and have the best chance of becoming ruler over Richard as our mother doesn’t want him to rule. While we can also be kind and sweet like Freya. Adding to that is the fact that you can roleplay the MC as level headed and respectful/polite - so you can get an idea why Alvena would prefer us. We’re basically the golden child.

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Thank you ^^

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I wonder who is Atheris going to take traits from, the most likely candidate is definitely Charles but seems like you definitely have to screw up to make her actually get angry, she talks about how Francis was a Threat but hardly does anything against us and shows care for Mc and Freya, she will definitely try to kill the Pirate and ruin her relationship with Freya but it doesn’t seem that she is willing to actually hurt her

Honestly, I expected her to be her favourite child lol, She is definitely the most able to take the throne out of all candidates (Richard wants to marry Clara and denies some alliances that could help him, The Mc is an 50/50 either makes it gets worse or they go ax-crazy) and she also cares about her siblings minus you know who, but doesn’t ignore the fact that they are possible threats against her should she become the ruler

Unless she wants to manipulate her children to make decisions then yeah I would dislike Atheris too lol.

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You know, I vaguely remember Nutella saying before that Atheris is similar to Alvena which may also be why they don’t get along, so ironically it might honestly be her mother she takes traits from lmao. In a way I can see it, however I think similar to Richard and Matteo and Freya and Francis, she doesn’t have the extreme traits her match has (yet).

After playing the demo, I think Atheris is the one sibling who actually surprises you by how much she diverts from her character trope/stereotype at first glance. I’m not going to spoil anything, but despite being willing to do the more violent and cold decision than the other siblings wouldn’t do, she’s practical and level headed enough to be open to alternatives.

Lol I think the issue with Atheris is that she’s the least likely to allow her mother to influence her decision making as ruler, so that might actually be another reason for it.

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I remember Atheris and Alvena having an argument about Charles, whether he really loved her or only married her for an alliance. In the end Alvena admits Atheris was right. Not exactly the sweetest mother-daughter relationship but I thought it was a nice scene :slight_smile:

This game may not be perfect but I think most people here will agree that it’s really good at depicting characters who have depth and nuance, whether they’re endearing or frustrating. I was surprised by how much I ended up liking Atheris; she and my MC may disagree on some points, but she has some redeeming qualities and isn’t ruthless for the hell of it. Maybe, just maybe, our sister won’t be a repeat of Charles.

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