Quiver: a Robin Hood legend. Official Topic and first draft of Chapter Four complete! [160,714 words currently]

If you don’t have enough silver coins then it changes depending on whether you are with someone or not.

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Couple of errors I found

“You have to put the flames out,” toy plead. “Noelle and the others are inside!”

I picked the priory upbringing, but when explaining myself to my jailmate, my character said they’d had the noble upbringing

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Thanks. I’m looking into that tonight along with a few other reported issues :slight_smile:

EDIT: Something I’ve noticed is that I need to write a list of character names down, I’ve already changed two names that I realised I used for two people and I recently found a third one…I need to pay more attention. I think the fact my writing has been flowing well lately has been blinding me to silly mistakes.

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Better to write and correct, rather than not write and have nothing to correct :slight_smile:

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Very true! Writing is writing whether it is good or bad :slight_smile:

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I’m curious about where Acolyte Robin’s are getting the Noble Robin explanation when talking to Luke/Mary because the code is

    *hide_reuse #Explain why you're here.
        *set timing + 1
        *if (noble)
            "I'm the ${son} of noble parents," you reveal to ${cellmate}'s surprise. "My family were branded traitors and I was dragged to jail."

            "I'd keep that to yourself," ${cellmate} says. "It doesn't bother me but some of the rougher prisoners would love to get their hands on a noble."
            *goto cellmate_questions
        *elseif (yeoman)
            "I'm the ${son} of a free man," you reveal to ${cellmate}. "The Sheriff stole our farm from my family. I was tossed in here during the struggle."

            "I think you'll find a few in here with similar situations to you," ${cellmate} explains.
            *goto cellmate_questions
        *else
            "I'm an orphan, our priory was burned down by the Sheriff's soldiers after they accused us of being pagans," you explain. "I was thrown in here alongside my mentor Friar Tuck."

            "I saw the friar get dragged off once they dumped you in my cell," ${cellmate} explains.
            *goto cellmate_questions

Which looks right to me?

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If it helps, I tried the acolyte origin and got this:

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It must have just been a glitch. I’ll remove the bug message.

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Seems to work now but I also get the ‘Bug Test’ thing and acolyte is misspelled in that bug test message.

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The bug test message is a quick bit of code I added to show what origin you had to make sure it was setting right. Which is now looks like it does I’ll remove it later

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Eh. Given the time, it’d not be unusual to know 6 Marys, three of which were from the same family. Repetitive names are no big deal, it’s why nicknames were so common.

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Currently working on adding a series of dates to get to know your betrothed/crush instead of having a choice that just says how you get on.

Are there any particular questions you’d like to ask them? Currently you can ask them about themself, their parents and how they like to relax?

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With the noble background, I’d like to ask them how they feel about the bethrothal, since iirc it was something arranged by their parents rather than their own choice.

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If you ask about them the noble options William, Juliana and Morgan tell you about their parents, siblings (if any) where they are in the heir pecking order.

One of the follow up questions is to ask what they expect out of these dates so outright asking them about the betrothal itself works well with that.

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I’ve been thinking about the betrothal/crush character for the past couple of days. I really do not like where the characters are going on the noble path, and I foresee similar issues with the crush characters in the yeoman and acolyte paths.

So, I am making the decision to scrap those characters. I feel like they are starting to feel like padding characters, and I don’t feel as attached to them as I do to the other characters. Although I do still like a few character details which I intend to recycle.

I’m sleeping on it, but my initial thoughts are as follows;

Remove the nine betrothal and crush characters.
Replace them with three origin specific characters.

Noble Robin will now interact with a bodyguard. (Edit: alternate option; they interact more with their maid)

Yeoman Robin will interact with the child of the merchant their father deals with.

Acolyte Robin will interact with a fellow orphan.

These three will be set genders but I intend to write three scene snippets and let people vote on which version of the characters they like the most.

Now for the non-binary ROs instead of being options for the betrothal/crush I will introduce two completely separate characters for them.

I’ll see how I feel over the weekend.

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That’s a lot of characters to begin with honestly.

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I really liked the idea of having origin specific betrothal/crush characters, but I think the execution was a bit off. I think there were too many, I think it should be 1 or 2 per origin.

I don’t know what the full plans were, but these characters should be integrated into the story somehow. As a connection into their world, as ROs, etc. That may not be something you want to do because you already have the story and the ROs planned, and in that case cutting them may be a better solution than totally changing up your plan.

When I first read the demo, I 100% thought the noble’s betrothed would be an important character and an RO. And I thought that would be an interesting dynamic for this type of story

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Originally the betrothed/crush was meant to come back into the story as a full fledged romance option.

I will still most likely make the revised origin characters potentially romanceable.

I think the current versions feel tacked on to me so I think replacing them with fewer characters I can integrate into the story better will be the better option.

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Considering all the other romances have set genders.

Male (Will Scarlet, Salah and Little John)
Female (Maid Marian, Nell and Isabella du Courteray)
Non-Binary (Kay and Morgan)*

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I will eventually have a third once I’ve got a character who fits (placeholder name is “Puck” because they are going to be a mischievous troublemaker type character.

Do you think I should make the origin-exclusive ROs gender-variable?

The three origin-exclusive characters are now code-named the Noble* (a fellow noble), the Merchant (the child of a merchant) and the Orphan (a fellow orphan). Each archetype can work as set or variable.

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I am still considering offering a choice for Noble Robin and Noble Friend to be betrothed to each other but only if I can write it in a way that fits with the revisions to the origin.

Also, all three Robins will now encounter a particular “character” during their origin that will make an appearance in a later chapter but is NOT an RO. Specifically, it is a Stag called the Lord of the Forest; it will be based on a legend that says Robin encountered a majestic stag.

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I think the origin ROs being gender selectable makes a lot of sense, especially for the noble origins betrothal

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