Kingdoms: Embers In Ashes[WIP] [OLD VERSION]

“This Blood is Mine” is a game about 20 characters? Sounds like quite the ambitious project. Good luck with it! :grin:

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Damnit nooo :joy: Anyway, I’m not replying a word anymore since it’s becoming off-topic.

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@Sophia

Alright-y then, something a little more on topic then:

From most to least, who are the ROs that are the most protective of the Second Prince (like who would be the first to jump in to protect the Second Prince practically on instinct and who would be the one’s to not due to having faith in his ability to take care of himself or some other reason)?

From most to least, who are the ROs who are more likely to tease the Second Prince and in what way (or why some won’t tease him too much)?

You once mentioned that there was a reason that Andus didn’t have the Holy Sword of his country land. Did he just know somehow the sword would not take to him as its owner or did he always know where the sword was, but left it there due to trying to claim the sword and learning firsthand that it would not acknowledge him as its wielder? Or did the sword at one point actually belong to him when he had not fallen so low, but he lost it during one of his battles, and once he finds it again, he learns the hard way that the sword does not accept him as the man he has become (which I imagine would fuel his disdain for the Second Prince more if the sword has allowed itself to be at its full power in the youngest prince’s hand)?

In the Half-Blood Princess’ path, will Rein eventually learn of Melissa’s behavior toward the Princess MC? How would he react if he’s actually got feelings for the Princess and learned that Melissa was low-key harassing her in some way?

Would it be possible for one of the Second Prince’s pets to die either protecting him or a loved one of the prince’s? Would the Prince be able to get a pet for one of the ROs themselves?

Both parents will not be even remotely pleased to see their sons forming a familial bond with one another, right? Will they try to weaken the bond between the two brothers in some way?

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Let me see… (can’t rank them so I’ll just explain)

Melissa

  • Already loves you, but she has this timid and weak will and might not give her life for the prince. That is, if you have a low relationship with her. For example; a sword comes flying to the mc and Melissa will instinctively shout at you about the sword. She would warn you, but throwing herself and protect you is unlikely.
  • Looking at another way, she is a bit of an emotional person and her actions are often controlled by her feelings. If you have a high relationship with her, she will most likely throw herself and block the sword for you without thinking,

Sophia

  • Doesn’t really like blood cuz of a traumatic experience. So even if you have a high or low relationship with her, she would not let you die(cuz she doesn’t want to see blood and dead people). The only difference is that she would not sacrifice her life for you. She would protect you with magic, but her life? Hell no.

Kris/Kridus

  • Unlikely. This character has a principle, “Me before them”, and is very unlikely to protect you unless if you are special to her/him.

Clithus

  • Not really protective of the second prince but will most likely protect him if he’s in danger. I mean, Clithus is a knight and is a idealistic. She believes in chivalry, and would still protect you despite having low relations.

Jaden

  • He’s a vassal of the king and would most likely protect the prince. The only thing is… If you were surrounded by armed men, he would come flying and save you. But if you were surrounded by 5 dragons and 10 huge sea serpents, he would not come for you. In other words, he would protect you but would not go that extreme.
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Most likely to tease? First would be Kris/Kridus. next is Sophia, then Melissa and lastly Clithus. If you include Duke Jaden, he would be in the middle of Sop and Mel

Let’s start off with the first placer…


Kris

  • Flirty, mischevious and naughty. If you’re talking about teasing… ehem… It’s the sexual-kind-of-thing.

Sophia

  • She does have sarcastic remarks(does that count as teasing?).

Jaden

  • A charismatic duke. He would less likely to tease you cuz of manners and etiquette and stuff. The prince is shown respect, and he follows it. Buut… He is quite friendly and aloof once you’ve got to know him.

Melissa

  • unlikely to tease you cuz of her timid personality.

Clithus

  • The chivalric woman. Unlikely to tease you cuz of your status as a prince.
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The holy sword was first wielded by the first king, King Darius. It was then passed to the second king, King Alain. After the 2nd king died, the sword was suddenly lost and vanished among the eyes of the mortal. But I guess you could imagine a “King Arthur Moment” someday in the story. :smirk:

Yes, Rein would know. When playing the female path, you can either be their cupid or break them apart more. You could be a temptress and let Rein see your suffering under the hands of Melissa. Rein would most likely be angry with Mel.

Maybe to both questions. Never really of that… I might implement that thx. :slight_smile:

Who are the parents you are talking about? Are you including Aless?

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I’m honestly a little surprised by this. Not because I think that Jaden is a bad guy (though I still need to see a few more character moments with him before I call him a nice guy), but because he’d protect the Second Prince as a vassal of the King.

Do the King’s vassals not know about the King’s disdain for the Second Prince? It doesn’t seem like his lack of care for his youngest son is all that much a secret. And I think you mentioned that Andus will sent him out to do tasks that seem relatively impossible either to put the son in danger’s way or to lessen the youngest son’s influence(so wouldn’t he be more displeased if it turned out one of his vassals helped the Second Prince in such situations).

Counts to me. :laughing:

Whether it be a platonic or romantic bond, some people with a natural lean toward sarcasm don’t lessen their snarks that much with their partner/friends. But there’s this obvious tone of endearment that tends to make it clear that the sarcasm is more teasing than anything else (kind of like how someone makes the remark about their loved one is a crazy loon, but does so with a affectionate smile).

It’s kind of also like how rough-and-tumble people never really lose that urge to wrestle around with, but there’s usually this extra carefulness with them if they’re rough-housing with a loved one who they know is a little more delicate than them.

I meant Andus and Victoria; they’ve seemed to make it pretty clear how the view the opposing son and seem equally as controlling to the son they ‘favor’ in some sense. So I wouldn’t put it past them to try something to weaken the bond between the two boys even when they are past the age of children.

If Aless was as good-hearted as she sounds from the few descriptions about her, I imagine that she’d be more horrified to see the kind of man Andus has now become and the type of father he is Marxus (maybe even a bit horrified to see the type of father he is to the Second Prince as well). Then again, if she was alive still, Andus probably wouldn’t be the man he currently is in the story, though it is hard to imagine what kind of father Past Andus would’ve been to his two sons (and we’ll probably never know).

Though since you did bring up Aless, how would she have also felt about Marxus and the Second Prince being close with one another?

What about if the Half-Blood Princess (who loves Rein) tries to keep him as calm as possible about the situation and wants to fully explain the reason for Melissa’s behavior rather than ruin what friendship is left possibly between Melissa and Rein? Would Rein take that into consideration, but still feel like he has to do something about the matter with Melissa?

And just for giggles, how does Rein handle being teased affectionately by the Half-Blood Princess (who he has feelings for)? Would he enjoy it, get a little flustered, or shoot back with his own teasing, making it a playful battle of wits?

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@Sophia

Oh, and is it possible for the Second Prince to try encouraging Sophia to leave the castle and explore the world outside it as often as possible. You know, with Clithus watching over her during such explorations or also with the Second Prince himself if she becomes comfortable enough around him (maybe even having a point where she asks to explore/ go for a walk with the Prince alone, giving a good indication that she trusts him as much as Clithus or wants to go somewhere alone with him for some reason)?

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Most of them know the King hates the mc.

Regarding on Duke Jaden, one reason why he will protect the prince is for the royal lineage. It’s not absolutely sure if Marxus will live or not, considering that some plot for his death.

They will absolutely separate the two of you, considering the hate and stuff.

Happy, that’s one thing she will feel. Another is worry. Queen Vicky is… well… might use this as an advantage and harm Marxus that kind of feeling.

Rein canon would take matters in his hands, unless if Sophy would force him not to.

A calm princess who tries to explain it to Mel? Well… there is one thing that I want to spoil but can’t. Anyways, a snake would not bite you with no reasons. In the water scene, Sophy made some rude yet true comments and Mel was insulted/humiliated by it. Mel will only do something if provoked.

He would get flustered, then thinks of a good comeback, completely fails it, and gets laugh again by Sophy… :heart:

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Middle of the story: Yes, it’s possible. But ya have to accompany here.

Ending: Only if she isn’t married to you. If she is, she needs to be with you in Darvis.

Ending: Nononono that’s not… Well… Clithus is the heir of a duchy, and is not really permitted to explore the world like an adventurer.

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And then the Half-Blood Princess places a chaste kiss on Rein’s cheek before gently hugging the flustered Prince and verbally reaffirming the fact she loves him…not matter how embarrassingly horrible he may be at flirting. :laughing:

So I take it Sophia (in the Second Prince path), would be quite pleased if she can get a blush out of her husband once they get closer?

I meant a calm Princess trying to explain to Rein about why Melissa has been giving her a bit of a hard time, so that he can possibly have a better understand about why Melissa would even do that. Though it will probably be interesting for some to see how Melissa interacts with a Half-Blood Princess who doesn’t try to provoke her in any way, but has slowly growing intimate relationship with Rein, to the point that Melissa can see it in the way Rein behaves around the Princess (though I’m not sure if Rein is the type to be openly affectionate or prefer showing said affections in more private settings, away from curious eyes).

And considering that you said that Marxus tends to goes along with Andus’ demands (no matter what his personal feelings are), it feels like whether he’d not allow his father to seperate him from a Second Prince he feels a brotherly bond with is very 50-50. Though Arlan certainly won’t let his mother destroy his chance to be a family with his older brother, and wouldn’t be intimidated by Andus.

I won’t ask what kind of actions since I’m pretty sure that might be too spoiler-y, but it is interesting to see how protective Rein can become of a Half-Blood Princess he loves. It will be interesting to see what kind of length he may go in his attempts to look out for her.

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…why do I get a feeling you’re gonna write a fanfic out of this scene? :thinking:

Yes. :heart:

Hm… Haven’t really thought of that one yet tbh. plans to get your idea and put in the story…

You’re mind is way more romantic than mine… (compliment)

Edit: Need to sleep…

Sound like a fun idea to pass the time :grin:, but I’d want a little more of a feel of Rein while playing as a Half-Blood Princess before I write a little short about him with the Princess MC (I like to be as consistent as possible with a character’s personality).

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When/if the Second Prince finds the sword, and is able to wield it, just how pissed is Andus?

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My main character cares nothing for taking the crown unless he’s convinced that big bro is so abysmally stupid that he’d lead the country to ruin.

So my Darius would be more interested in seeing if he could make a deal “One fancy letter opener from myth and legend for one slightly used wife, a deal of a lifetime!”

You really want him mad? :joy:

Rather than pissed, Andus would feel humiliated that the one he hated would wield the weapon.

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Actually, there’s this Aesop Fable about a farmer how tried to save a snake from freezing to death outside, so he brought it into his house to warm it up. The snake, once warmed, tried to attack one of his children, so the farmer was forced to end the life that he tried to save (or was bitten himself and died from the bite). The moral of the story was to harbor some wariness even in a offer of kindness, since not all acts of kindness are repaid with gratitude.

Happliy waves hands in the air Oh, oh! I do! I do! :smiley:

Nothing would be more satisfying when playing the Second Prince than having moments where we can get under Andus’ skin. It may not win some of us any favors from him but, for me personally, he’s done nothing to truly earn the respect and loyalty of his youngest son either. And it would be oh so rewarding to not only get a rise out Andus, but to do so in a way that makes it pretty much impossible to retaliate with his preferred methods. This man may seem to have some cunning in him, but it also seems clear that he has a strong preference for using intimidation and force to get his results. So having the the Second Prince one-up him with skills Andus doesn’t commonly practice would be quite rewarding, especially if the King can’t effectively retaliate in any way without making himself look even worse to his vassals.

Heck, the idea of the leader Northern Kingdom swearing loyalty to the Second Prince rather Marxus (who is the technical next king), sounds like another way Andus would get a bit riled up (because that allegiance could end up offering the Second Prince a good deal of influence in the eyes of very important people). Especially if the leader causally remarks in front of Andus that they would never aid one who harbors such a troubling weakness of character and saying ‘nothing is weaker than a warrior who sacrifices their beliefs to bend to the will of another’ when they refer to Marxus.

Suddenly a little more inclined to keep that sword (even though Arlan is one who more commonly uses archery and magic in combat). :smirk:

It’s honestly a wonder that even a few don’t know about Andus’ hostility toward his Second Son.

I wonder where the Second Prince’s Uncle stands on the matter. He does seem to see potential in Marxus that point to the older boy being able to be a good king and isn’t remotely keen on a Prince who thinks he deserves the throne solely because he is the child of the Queen (something I can honestly understand; nothing good could ever come from having a entitled brat on the throne). But how would he feel if both sons of Andus showed signs of being good kings in their own ways?

Heck, I’m not even sure the guy feels about the Second Prince in general. He doesn’t seem to hate him, but he doesn’t seem to harbor much fondness for his nephew either. Yet, at the same time, he seems to respect the fact that the Second Prince is his own person with his own opinions/values, considering how he quickly shoots down Victoria’s answering for the Prince so that the boy can answer for himself.

This might be the first time I’ve ever been called romantic. :astonished:

Though I’m not sure it’s a matter of me being all that romantic. It’s more that I have a fascination with the various expressions of intimacy depending on type of relationship the people involved have with each other and how their personalities might effect their interactions with each other. I’m just as equally as interested in seeing Marxus develop something akin to a healthier familial bond with his half-brother as I am in seeing Sophia’s actions when she wants to make it clear that she’s becoming even more trusting of the Second Prince (or is harboring a growing affection for him that makes her want to explore it in some way).

That’s often what catches my interest in a romance: how the unrelated characters develop their intimacy with each other. So much can be said from the way two characters use tone/words when talking with one another, how they use touch, and their reactions to the other person’s emotions that make such moments far more engaging for a player (even more so when the player is giving a good range of possible reactions to such moments as well).

In fact, once you mentioned the fact that Rein would be angry about learning how Melissa was treating a Half-Blood Princess MC he loves, I couldn’t help but picture a usually nonchalant prince bursting a bit in anger, pacing back and forth in the room he shared with . And then the calmer Princess softly calls his name; so softly, that’s it’s almost a marvel that the words manage to still the Second Prince’s frantic pacing. She sees the tension still in his stance and steps closer to the rigid male. Carefully, she reaches her small hands toward Rein’s face so that she can make him look her in the eyes. She continues to talk about the matter in a calm soothing tone, never breaking eye contact with her husband (no matter how intense his expression is). Slowly, the tension drains from the Prince and he leans his forehead against her, breathing deeply as he calms himself as much as possible. The Half-Blood Princess too closes her eyes and asks him to not do anything reckless; he simply remarks that he’ll consider her words, keeping forehead against hers as he reaffirms the fact that she is safe (for now).

I’d get more into detail about it but (like I said), I probably should wait a little more until I can see what the the scenes between the Second Prince/Half-Blood Princess MC and the ROs are like before I talk too much about the matter.

Now onto why the intimacy matter fascinates me in Rein’s case with the Half-Blood Princess MC:

We have a young man who does not come from the healthiest of family situations. He far from close with his mother (due to her trying to make him do something he’s not interested in doing), has a father that despises him, and doesn’t seem really sure about Marxus’ views on him (which is understandable, considering how much the older boy keep everything bottled up). He prefers to be kept as far away from complicated matters as possible, to the point of possibly being more than fine with not having too much attention drawn to him.

But what happens when the Half-Blood Princess MC gets added into his life? A Half Princess that reaches out to him in some way, trying to understand the Second Prince in ways that few have really done before? Discovering the possible pains he’s gone through and soothing them in a way that he finds only she can really do? What would the normally nonchalant young man do in order to keep her safe when it seem that those around him are trying endanger her life? It will likely be a interesting to see what the Prince (who has no interest in getting involved in complicated things) will go through to keep a Half-Blood Princess that he loves at his side.

Heck, in the Second Prince’s case, some players, who were previously going to choose simply being somewhat tolerate about Melissa’s behavior, may have a bit of a knee-jerk reaction if Melissa’s action didn’t just endanger the life of their RO…

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Is Marxus stupid? It’s hard to say. But one things for sure, he is likely to act based on what he feels rather than what is supposed to be. Marxus is indeed a strong warrior, but a warrior is not guranteed to be a wise king. There might also be a chance where Marxus may become like Andus, considering that he has his blood. Andus loved a woman and was seriously affected when Aless died. That might also happen to Marxus.

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…thank you for your lesson. :bowing_woman: (And I got that snake thing from Quora)

Then he would be happy and optimistic, seeing that the realm’s future looks bright. The duke hates ambition and greed, since Vicky has been showing that since they were children.

There’s always a first time for everything. :wink:

Buuuut I admit that you’re mind is more romantic than mine.

PS. You just wrote a thousand words… @Harian is proud of you…

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Considering Andus’ hate for the Second Prince and how he’ll likely go through quite some extreme lengths to lessen his youngest son’s chances to gain influence, all I can see is a great deal of chaos if the Second Prince is shown to rival Marxus in terms of influence and especially if important people are torn between which they want to be king. There’s no way that Andus will let the Second Prince have the throne without a struggle, and it would likely be one that causes Andus to hurt the Kingdom more than help it due to his selfish desire to keep his un-favored child from having a claim to throne (even if the boy proved numerous times to be a more capable king than Marxus by fair means).

Is our Uncle one of the nobles who are unaware of the King’s disdain for the Second Prince?

That said, hearing this little tidbit about the man has made me like him a little more than Victoria (though I am still uncertain of what kind of bond he can develop with the Second Prince MC).

Yeah, even just looking at the post I made myself has currently given me this expression:

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