Are they pretty? I mean, I was a Jun simp (and still am, a bit), so I hope we can be mutually toxic pretty people together.
They are the author’s favourite 
What do you think?
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I believe the author’s said that August is their favourite, if I recall right. Edit: although I’m not sure where I read that, so take with a pinch of salt. I am always a bit unsure when I see people saying it’s clear from the story alone that an author has a favourite, as I don’t relate much to the idea of having an author-favourite.
@vera Seven is an ex-friend/partner rival-to-the-MC type of character with a lot of past co-dependence with the MC; some players dislike them a lot, others obsess over them, you may like them even if they’re not blond 
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You’re right. The author mentioned it on her Tumblr. The search function from tumblr is useless, so sadly I can’t find the post where she mentioned it.
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Completely unrelated from the previous discussion: I just got done reading your story, it was pretty good. Was planning to do an RO breakdown here like I’d been doing, but I got caught up in other writing stuff on the side and, uh, kinda forgot about it until right this moment.
I can offer this one for free, though: Marky is a bro and I think they’re cool.
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Jun is the dude version, Junko is the girl version. By the way, is Seven that bad because of tumblr asks again? I haven’t seen anything that intolerable in the demo, it’s just him and my MC being dumb bitches (affectionate).
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Seven sure is controversial, and I get why people dislike them, although I would refrain from letting your opinion of them be based on someone else’s. Have a go at the demo and see if you like them or passionately hate them. Something which you should do for every piece of media, imo 
(although, considering the range when it comes to ros from different games, I do have to admit it’s funny to see them portrayed as this unredeemable monster. It feels like that one anime meme on twt where people put three serial killers and then oikawa from haikyuu)
Oh yeah. I absolutely wasn’t arguing with that.
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The posts should not be flagged, though. This is exactly a thread for this, and even if it wasn’t, it’s a useful feedback.
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Ix-nay what I said a minute ago, I just read it back to myself and realized it sounded awful pushy on my end.
Eh, not as pushy as me waiting for an answer and discovering two comments went poof. That’s pretty damn pushy from whoever did that - I was asking in good faith, unknown flagger! And people have a full right to hate something other people love, I’m not flagging people when they hate Jun.
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It’s kind of sad, when this thread which is specifically for ranting about a hated ro that you or someone agree to dislike got flagged for no reason or maybe someone petty because a person dislike the ro that they are obsessively attached to. 
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Sadly a lot of discourse online when it comes to fiction and whatnot usually can be summarized with “I like/hate this, so you’re not allowed to dislike/love it.”
I don’t remember it happening quite as often when I was a teenager, but nowadays whenever you post an opinion you have to be ready for someone to hold you at gunpoint over pettiness, which sucks ass.
Some people grow so attached to their faves they don’t understand you’re criticizing the conglomerate of pixels/writing on paper rather than them. Everything is a personal attack and it has become an issue.
Extra hilarious to see flagged comments in a topic made specifically for ranting about characters you dislike.
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Like, do I have to refer back to this thing I said a while ago, right now?
Yeah, the original context of this comment was people worrying that this thread was for bullying authors, but in the context of letting people vent about ROs they don’t like without being tagged by the flagging system for it, it still fits.
Particularly Channi’s - I remember very clearly what her comment said, and while yeah, there was an F-bomb in there, it didn’t warrant a flag anymore than some of the other spicier takes that have historically shown up in this thread did.
Or at least, I don’t think it did - the Infamous thread kinda kersploded while I wasn’t looking, and it went from being a couple hundred to over a THOUSAND posts seemingly overnight, so there’s a lot I haven’t read.
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I’ve taken a look at the two posts that were flagged. Both of them veered into commentary about the author; one seemed to imply that they thought an author was lying about her favourite character and the other that the author enjoys humiliating players. I think that element was likely the crux of it, though the posts were made about nine hours ago now so there may well be context I’ve missed, and I imagine that it wasn’t the intention of the posters to come across that way. When criticism turns into comments about authors, though, it is different to people expressing dislike of characters. The latter is fine unless it gets wildly out of hand; the former will be much more likely to result in flags being upheld because, intentionally or not, it may fall foul of the “be kind to each other” forum rule.
Slightly unrelated, but I saw the “feedback” word mentioned and wanted to reiterate that if people are interested in giving feedback to authors, or otherwise want their comments to be seen by authors, this thread isn’t really the place for it; authors will likely not be reading a thread called “ROs you hate”. So, review-type critique, or commentary otherwise intended for authors to take in and consider, is better-suited for announcement, development, or discussion threads for the games in question.
Please continue to gripe as desired. (I tried to come up with my own gripe as a joke, but I was pathetically unable to come up with anything worse than “I can’t stand Rory’s taste in sandwiches” or something.)
Another edit: if you feel moderators have made an incorrect decision, please contact the moderator team or staff.
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Aha. Okay, I missed the bits about targeting the author.
In that case, no, yeah, those flags were warranted. Hate the characters, not the writers.
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Hm. To be honest, I liked their relationship with my MC in public demo (in ex-boyfriend and still having romantic feelings route) because it was fucked up ex-somethings unable to let each other go no matter how much it hurts. They both seemed messy to me, they both seemed very unhealthy and clingy, and that’s exactly what I wanted from that relationships.
For me it’s two people happily ruining everything around them in a messed-up vortex, two people so heavily dependent on each other that this love-hate turns out to be the only thing that is left for them to latch onto no matter how much they pretend otherwise.
Granted, when I’m talking about them it’s mainly just Seven and Ivan. I have no idea how he comes off in other routes, but he probably is far more dickish to someone who doesn’t fight back. It took my MC snapping at him during bus ride for Seven to stop snapping at him.
Romantic ex Seven and feelings-having abrasive MC strike me as an interesting couple, and I hoped their behaviour would bite them both in the ass. Do you think that’ll ever happen for Seven? I think only an actual fallout would ever get the two to stop doing… whatever they’re doing to each other and start thinking about how they actually come off.
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I do think sometimes this thread veers into a toxic territory–I like having a space to criticize characters I dislike, but there are times when I read someone’s comment and come away feeling as though the commenter is in a very hostile mood that leads them to project on the character, and honestly? That they’re also somewhat entitled 
What I really like about this thread though is the opportunity to see the other ways people interpret a romance or character. I’m not sure who’s been writing them, but someone’s been doing these extensive RO breakdowns and while I don’t always agree with them, I find it interesting and actually somewhat helpful to keep in mind when I try to write my own romances. As much as it could hurt to see a character that they’ve written mentioned here, I think that a kind critique–one that is actually constructive, descriptive, and clear–can go a long way towards improving a romance in an ongoing series or in a writer’s future work. But when they come in and see things like “ABRAHAM PEBBLESNATCHER IS A SHIT CHARACTER AND I HOPE THEY DIE IN AN OIL FIRE,” it sort of kills the possibility of a constructive, educational, and enjoyable dialogue, not just for the author but others who might actually like that character haha.
It’s interesting to me to see the diversity of opinions here. From my casual following of this thread, I’ve noticed that generally speaking:
- People are more likely to hate a romance if they feel as though they are being forced to like or forgive the romance for something.
- People are more likely to hate a romance if the romance is mad at the MC for whatever reason.
- While some are into this trope, many people really dislike the idea of a romance being mean to the MC for little to no good reason.
- On the other side of that, nice romances can be too bland at times, and possibly even come across as creepy.
- If the romance does something to hurt the MC, intentionally or otherwise, be prepared for a wide variety of opinions.
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You are hilarious and absolutely right. 
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