Honestly AI could write comedic work unintentionally.
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Talking and communicating to a machine is going to turn into something like chanting magic spells lol OOooo Story idea!
the character waves the mouse around the device “oh grant me a plate of waffles,” clicks the spell into existence damn… you manifest a waffle shaped plate and go hungry." The GPT magic system! tada!
I think currently the AI rely on you already having an expertise in the subject you’re working on to be able to ask the correct question and observe when its making stuff up because its not ‘allowed’ to say "i don’t know’. Or at least I’ve never gotten them to say that. Though they do like agreeing with everything you say, that bugs me, I 'don’t like being right all the time means something’s wrong in the world.
Isn’t that just Warhammer 40k? 
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“Please don’t crash” is a pretty regular spell in my human-computer communication.
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Is there anything not in warhammer?
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The power of love and friendship?
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So does anyone know exactly how the CoG company discovers AI content?
An image generated by ai is easy to spot, but how do you discover text generated by ai?
It’s a seeeecret!
More seriously, I don’t think the staff are going to give out their exact methodology for the same reason we mods don’t give out our methods for catching ban evaders. Security through obscurity is a thing. All I’m personally going to say is that there are tools available that can trip up AI generation with a fair degree of confidence.
In the case of HoS, of course, we know because the writer was dumb enough to admit it.
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Oh, well that makes sense. I appreciate the honesty, I was just curious about the process because I find it hard to tell the difference between ai and human writing myself. So I was just wondering how they manage it.
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I don’t buy eggs or milks, and no, most farming done is to feed the animals but that’s beside the point, strangely enough I also see AI as a necessity and the way of the future, while the meat industry, generating about 14% ghg if I want to be really generous, as evil incarnate.
guess the only way to reconcile these radically different point is to let people spend money as they fit
It’s not like we only care about carbon emission, ghg is still important if we want to fix climate change, it’s not something to be disregarded that easily.
Now show me how much of the three percent is just generative AI, as I said the issue is overblown
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Nope. Copy and paste is plagiarism. if you copy and mix anything a little and create something new, it can be call " inspiration " from…
I note that make two that aren’t agree that this tech is like anything else ( and isn’t good to : youtube…com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc 
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What? We were talking about GHG, not what most farmers spend time on. And the majority of GHG in the agriculture industry is from soil and manure management. But again, the majority of that is Nitrous Oxide and Methane.
I mean, that’s just a straight up lie. Agriculture doesn’t make up anywhere near 14% of the worlds ghg emissions. Here. Source. Again. USDA ERS - Chart Detail. In fact, between 2020 and 2021 ghg percentage for agriculture dropped 0.5% because people are prioritizing it as a concern.
Maybe I should clarify my stance on it a bit. AI is not evil incarnate. There are practical uses for it. One of those uses I can come up with off the top of my head is breaking the language barrier between people. Where people will just be able to speak into a phone in one language and it will seamlessly repeat it in another language that’s pre-designated. HOWEVER, the amount that companies are spending on it and the prominence it’s already beginning to have are unnecessary. There are companies out there getting billions upon billions of dollars to literally train these AI with little to no return on humanitarian benefits. Instead of putting those billions of dollars towards trying to create an AI that can predict catastrophic natural disasters more accurately, they’re putting it towards generating art and music. We don’t need that. Because there’s an overabundance of talented creative individuals already. A lot of humans can create art. No humans can instantly translate any language into another one or accurately predict within a 0.001% margin of error when exactly a disastrous hurricane is going to form.
You know what’s a humanitarian benefit? Producing 350 million tonnes worth of food per year. That’s what the so called ‘evil incarnate’ meat industry does. If you’re vegan, that’s fine. That’s your choice and your morals and I respect that. Because of how strongly you lean towards those morals, you may not believe this, but I greatly care for animal’s well-beings too. I wouldn’t be an Animal Science major if I didn’t. But we have to acknowledge the fact that without the agriculture industry, millions upon millions of people would go hungry every year.
And while I don’t have the data to answer how much of that 3.5% of CO2 emissions is for generative AI, we can speculate that it’s a significant amount based on companies reports such as this one. Google’s emissions climb nearly 50% in five years due to AI energy demand | Google | The Guardian Google had a nearly 50% emission climb in the last 5 years “…largely due to AI.” That’s what I mean by they’re the ones reporting these numbers.
The agriculture industry is constantly working on ways to reduce GHG and add safety measures to make sure workers and the general public are taken care of, as well as regulations to make sure the animals are treated correctly, even if a lot of places are very far off from where they should be with that last point. Whereas emissions for use of datacenters largely in part due to AI continues to increase and rise, and it’s estimated to continue to rise dramatically. For the European continent alone, electricity usage for data centers are estimated to grow another 28% by 2030. Source: AI’s Growing Carbon Footprint – State of the Planet
The fact of the matter is, we don’t have a sustainable way to deal with the extreme amount of heat all this extra processing from all these extra data centers are creating. Not only that, but these companies are continuing to say their carbon emission footprint will continue to grow before they can potentially reach their goal of net 0 carbon footprints. And honestly? I don’t believe them. I don’t believe with the growing prominence of AI that they can realistically reach that 0% by the time frame that they’re proposing, and I think new ways to make profits and perform neuron activation in people’s minds with shiny new ideas is going to continue to fuck over the planet like it has been for the last 30 or more years.
My reason for that? Google said that they are going to aim for 0 Carbon emissions by 2030. That’s directly conflicted with the statistics that show energy usage is only going to increase by 2030.
All this to say, AI isn’t evil, but there is no sustainable way to use it at the pace that companies are forcing it to be used. Right now, I whole heartedly believe it should not be for public use, and instead should be used to better natural crisis response and humanitarian purposes. Because at the rate that it’s being used and for all the nonsensical bullshit it’s being used for right now, it will contribute to the literal end of the world. As of right now, unlike agriculture, it does not have the impact to save millions of lives like literal food does.
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I know an awful lot of people whose job duties involve grading papers, and they all disagree with you.
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Some of it can be used for heating buildings, of course, which then decreases the need to generate that heat in other ways, but I’m not sure how you’ll store the heat produced in Summer (when you don’t need it) to be used in Winter (when you do). That is also disregarding that the electricity itself needs to be produced somehow, which may or may not be sustainable, and that the current electric grids may not support the amount required.
Carbon is essentiel for life. That mean people and everything have live have to die if they follow this moron arguments. This carbon project is pure 1984 call.
Let me put a Quote here :
" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH "
40% of all electricity for data centers is currently used to cool the data centers, so this is essentially already built into the energy consumption plan of these centers so that they can be kept at an optimal temperature to where everything inside doesn’t overheat.
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“Carbon emissions” generally refers to carbon dioxide being released into the atmosphere in quantities that harm the environment. Life on earth managed just fine for billions of years before carbon emissions came along.
Carbon dioxide is also produced as a byproduct of metabolism by most living things. You and are I creating and emitting carbon dioxide right now.
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I mean, some of the heat waste (…is that a word?) from data centers in Finland is already used for… district heating (my dictionary calls it that at least), although not all.
Close, but you got the right idea with the name! It’s ‘waste heat’ (I don’t agree with that and think it should be heat waste personally). In fact it’s one of the most important parts of environmental management and safety. In fact, it’s not just machines and facilities that give of waste heat; animals and humans do as well. We just tend to have more than one way to conduct it to the space and things around us.
I get my stats from here, which says the meat industry accounts for 14.5 percent of ghg, but I’m honestly not going to debate this as it’s quite out of topic, so I’ll just take your stats as accurate.
https://openknowledge.fao.org/server/api/core/bitstreams/e1afd815-5a76-4b88-beac-fb9bc0e92001/content
I quite disagree and feel that’s a great way to spend electricity, the world doesn’t work according to what you and I think should work, which is really a blessing, since there’s no ‘we’ here with the same mindset and priority.
AI doesn’t slaughter sentient intelligence in the billions, that counts as evil to the absolute in my book because my god said so, the point is doesn’t matter why I believe this is evil, you can’t just use your personal moral code to dedicate what should or shouldn’t be banned, otherwise we get totally unreasonable laws such as banning the public use of generative AI which as a policy is pure nonsense, same goes for banning all meat.
That sounds quite reasonable, google is heavily investing in AI at the moment like crazy so the 50% percent makes sense, good for them.
Strangely from my perspective they are the only thing that can save the world, the “non-sensical bullshit” you mentioned is the best thing that’s happened in the last 10 years to some people, and don’t kid yourself if you think the meat industry with the size as it is is necessary for feeding everyone, at least in the US.
People may frame this is a environmental issue but with how we are engaging this it’s obviously still a moral issue regarding the value of AI, so just ditch the whole environment angle as a smokescreen when we both know there are worse offenders out there, and debate the merit of AI directly which is what’s at stake here, because this is what we comes back to at the end of the day anyways.