Choice of Rebels: Stormwright (XoR2 WIP)

What about an anti-telos? What is the ward simply prevents the passage of a telos like “weapon” for example? The connection to the palace could be the antithesis of the stone’s telos to fall?

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This is actually really interesting! I could definitely see it, although with what we know about how changes work, and how telos likes to fly, I feel like it’d be more expensive than the minimal upkeep we actually see?

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It could function like the “permanent” changes. Like the hyper sharp sword. It will eventually lose its edge on its own, but much bigger changes like wards and floating castles require maintenance to sustain the change? Perhaps the bigger the permanent change the faster it degrades? It is still relatively permanent. We saw from @Havenstone’s blood figures that the wards and the capital are smaller line items in the blood budget.

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How powerful is Serracca militarily?

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I don’t know if it was talked before but I just finished the explanation of aetherial bloods and I need to ask this
Could we make a new way to build refined bloods? I don’t want to be ruthless and killer like Hegemony or even worse like Halassurq and I don’t know who (if it is a should and only way to make blood ) to feed harrowers.
So I want to ask if you @Havenstone hadn’t considered a path that we figure a new and powerful but also compassionate way to make blood for our theurges do it now because it’s a need and also more real if we are intelligent enough to become self-taught theurge and also understand all the philosophy and secrets of magic but can’t make a new way for improving our magic like the first thaumatarch .
I even have some ideas to new ways:

you could make a path that we find a way to use and build those talismans but I think it could be hard as we can’t find meteors easily
You could also consider a new way that we harness the nature’s aether and its not needed to use blood
Even if it should be a must to use blood we have plenty dangerous mutants in Xaos land that you could feed to harrowers without a care for morals
Even we have some kind of zombie in north that are even better to feed harrowers for refined blood to theurgy than mutations in Xaos
Or if the Angels and Eclect are real so we could use theurgy without blood as the Eclect should like what the priest friend of Horion Leilatou mentioned

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Also I want to ask about the ROs that are not on the list; what will happen to them? Specifically I want to know about suzane as I was forced to become bisexual just to have that aristo Ro a female not male. Cant you add a intro to breden that we choose them male but say something like he is good looking but I’m not into men to become a straight but also have suzane female?
If you don’t don’t plan for her to be a full game RO like other characters on the list tell me so I don’t bother to make breden a male just so they become female suzane?

I also thought it would be case as it was why I thought of using harrowers for Xaos mutants
I Hope he make Eclect real so we don’t need harrowers and singlehandedly do every big fits that need lots of blood sacrificed like a true angels choosen

It has a real big problem. It’s like peeling your own skin and breaking your own bone and mind just to use that self aether. I don’t like it it’s more restricting and makes theurges less capable specialy if you can’t reach a truce with Halassurqs. They will broke us in battle in just one battle. Hegemons atleast standed to them for 3hundred year

As you are saying they aren’t human it’s better to kill them than our children or Lower classes specifically as we just revolted to make those lower and slaves status change for better. If we still do what Hegemon had done and was the reason we started everything what is our differences? We become what we are fighting? A real cliche

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Havie’s not going to make it easy for us to wean the country off Harrowing. The most coherent suggestion so far has been to teach a lot of theurges who can use their own aether. Which comes with its own problems, but won’t require massive blood sacrifice.

So in other words, using harrowers for another kind of sentient being who don’t happen to be human? (Before you ask, the only zombies in the world are sentient beings. Same with any other Xaos mutants who can be harrowed. Sorry.)

As for religion being provably real, it’s not. There will never be Angels coming down to help us.

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No question-answering yet, gang, sorry – but I thought I’d let you all know that there’s another Irduin excerpt to chew on, over at the March Writer’s Thread.

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First of all I must reiterate how brilliant this story is and how much I respect the author’s hard work!

I’m replaying G1 again having now gone through the demo of game 2 more times than I can count, and I chose to inspect the Harrower. The MC notices the plate designed for the victim’s head, but the explanation at the time is that there is a lot of blood in the brain.

In G2, will there be any text where the MC remembers that plate and recognizes its true purpose after learning the truth from Cerlota, if they inspected it in G1?

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@Havenstone When will be the earliest moment when we can contact with more broad Cabelite movement (not counting Bethune)? Will we see in this game their reactions to our doings?
I would appreciate just any kind of info on Cabelite faction to be honest, I have grown to be very interested in them.

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Curious how Bethune and other followers would react to my MC doing a heel-face turn and going full Cosmo. Dealing with the fallout of such about faces should be interesting.

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Petition for Havie to keep writing options like

#”Why are you such an utter bastard to everyone?”

whenever he can. I read that whole excerpt several times trying to figure out what I liked about it so much, then I realized it was because instead of asking him about taxes and politics, we can just simply question about what his deal is with having no compassion. It’s kind of like when Ulbern is telling you about the circumstances that made him run from Rim Square, and instead of continuing to find out more information, you can just say you’re horrified and sorry it happened to him. I love choices like that, and I’ll pick them every time. It just really shines through how great and caring the MC is.

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Fr, its nice to just be a person instead of a government rebellion dude lol

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I dont think anyone has asked this before but will the MC be able to sacrifice their own firstborn in a fairly public and ritualistic manner as a way to convince the people that EVERYONE is doing this? They could even make it a part of a new ritual of their religion that the firstborn must be sacrificed for the greater good or explaining that it will save many lives.

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Another one is about the possibility of a “federal empire” similar to the German Empire where theres a clear monarchical head of state and locals would lead their own provinces under their own local monarchies. Sure the situation is quite different due to culture and separatism but i imagine out of the options this would be the least bad one as a fairly inclusive government for one that aims to maintain the hegemony’s borders

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If I want to sue someone for breech of a business contract in the Hegemony, how do I plead my claim and get a judgment?

Officially I mean. I imagine the way it works in fact is often just “bribe local alastor chief”

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I suspect this is actually handled in-house by the local Syntechnia, if it’s between legit merchants. Nobles dealing with each other probably petition the local aristarch for arbitration, and local freeholders petitioning the nearest lord. I don’t think the Hegemony has “true” courts.

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Its a pretty old thread but we should also mention the peaceful resistance christians made against the romans,the Roman Empire itself eventually turned to christianity after hundreds of years of throwing christians into arenas and crucifying them at no point did christians conquer Rome or ovethrow the roman government.

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I feel like this may not apply to the Hegemony’s situation exactly. The Romans preferred syncretism when encountering new faiths as long as they could be mapped on to an existing Roman or Greek god. They used tolerance of faith as a means to incorporate new territory. The relative lack of devoted state worship I think left the state vulnerable to the spread christianity in a way that the Hegemony is not. It is an explicitly theocratic state with civil, criminal, and religious law all derived from the same origin. Additionally, the Hegemony is a fanatically religious state and treats any deviation from the state interpretation of the codex as heretical and punishable by death.

I think the Hegemony being converted from within is about as likely as Austria-Hungary or Spain being converted to Islam or Protestantism.

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Hmm, before I continue the discussion, I would like to explain my ambivalent religious views.

God may exist, but God does not save humans, and humans should not seek salvation from God. That’s why I said it was deistic.

I’m sorry if this sounds sarcastic, but I’d like to ask you and Heavenstone a question.

If you are a devout Christian, why do you use God’s name instead of man’s to solve earthly problems?

Wouldn’t that be testing the Lord?

This is my personal opinion, and I look forward to a positive counterargument.

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I think the pre-Constantine Roman position could better be summed up as “you must worship the gods the Roman state worships, but we don’t care if you worship others”. The reason Christians got singled out for special attention was their refusal to sacrifice to the Emperor’s guardian spirit and an order to sacrifice to the gods of the Roman state and obtain a certificate of having done so was an anti-Christian test that was periodically implemented.

Even in the case of Christianity, it was still very much a small minority religion like Manicheism and other millenarian cults until Constantine adopted it, made bishops state officials and began to favor people who joined the church. The very highest estimate I’ve seen is 10% for how much of the empire was Christian at the time of the Edict of Milan and many think it was less.

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