Apartment 502 discussion

That relationship is not gonna last long then. Rainn have to realize you are important to them on their own. If you act like a pathetic cat then they know even if they break your heart again you are still gonna keep crawling towards them in the end. That an abusive relationship now good luck with that.

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It will happen like that for the most part

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Looking forward to the Athena route with a musician mc personally.

Two angsty goth singers who definitely dont believe in love any more, no siree, no quiet pining going on here

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I’m just hoping Andi isn’t a last minute thing. Like have them come in just when we’re getting comfortable with the trio in like a month rather than showing up, confess and jump to ending.

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You get a mention in Ch.1 that Andi will be showing up soon:

From what ${an_he} tells you, Rainn hasn't told ${an_him} much either. [i]As usual.[/i] Neither you nor Rainn want to put Andi in the middle so you both avoid it entirely. You know that's not going to last. Andi is going to be clued in eventually. 

At least ${an_he} cut ${an_his} trip short to head home earlier which means it won't be long till you can see your best friend in person and tell ${an_him} everything.
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I keep telling the game I want to move on from Rainn and the game keeps ignoring my choice to reaffirm that Rainn has broken up with me and that is all I can think of.

Edit: I truly enjoyed the Atlas singing scene, it was very well written.

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Nah that is not a bug, and I am pretty glad the author chose that mentality for our mc to have, like the mc was in a THREE YEARS relationship, you can’t just forget about it in a week, you can try but the scars will still be there until, the mc is truly ready to let go and accept it with time or find another that fills the void to ease it or rekindle the passion with the ex

I gotta be honest, this is the best rom com and drama wip I have seen, it kinda reminds me of friends and how I met your mother

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I know that from the way the Mc is written it makes sense considering how attached/in love they were with R, but it makes picking the choices to move on pointless(at least for now). Hopefully it doesn’t persist throughout the whole thing, it’s understandable at the start but if it reaches past a month in game and we’re constantly trying to move on it’ll get irritating if we’re still getting forced to act like we can’t, especially when we’re trying to get together with one of the others.

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Alright, when playing, I imagine two MCs in my head facing the breakup with R. First is a strong MC, ready to abandon their familiar life in their hometown to live with R in an unfamiliar New York. So when R mentions breaking up, this MC won’t hesitate to choose impulsive options, refusing to accept the breakup. For this characterful MC, once they’re ready to move on, there’s no reason for the game to keep signaling that you’ve broken up, that you still have feelings for R. I agree it’s a 3-year relationship, but the game only mentions the time frame - the quantity - without showing the weight of those three years. I don’t need flashbacks, but in the game, I only see those 3 years mentioned like a passing breeze. Meaning the player only receives information without witnessing it. Show, don’t tell. Players should feel comfortable making such choices, I mean it should fit the story progression and character psychology.

Next is the shy MC, accepting the challenge to live in New York with R. When R mentions breaking up, this MC will choose milder responses, avoiding arguments for a peaceful breakup. Therefore, when the game continues to ask questions about the breakup, this MC will choose options like 1) can’t forget yet; 2) moving on but can’t forget. I’m quite uneasy choosing these options because the game hasn’t established or proven elements in R that would make the MC unable to forget them completely. It feels like choosing these options because the game forces you to, not because it fits the character’s psychology.

I quite agree with idonotlikeusernames’s opinion above that MC loves more than R. If I remember correctly, on Nik’s Tumblr, R fell in love with MC at first sight (or R claimed so), but in chapter 1 of the game, I only see R as quite indifferent in this relationship, or simply that MC is too naive, overly fantasizing about a good future with R when reality doesn’t show R as someone who wants to nurture this relationship. Another contradiction is that players can choose an MC who graduated from an elite university, but through the storytelling from MC’s perspective, in my personal opinion, it feels like MC is completely dependent on R. Wake up, your education level may not relate to your heart, but at least when making such a turning point decision, shouldn’t you discuss potential issues with that person? Because reality isn’t like movies, and sometimes following your heart is a gamble, so I think in this game, R has mesmerized MC to the point of forgetting how important MC themselves, their family, and friends are.

In conclusion, I’m quite uneasy when facing R. Perhaps R is bad because 1) The game makes us feel that way or 2) They’re bad but we’ve misunderstood them. Either way, I hope the breakup with R is at least conducted appropriately based on the context and limited initial information.

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I love the RO’s here but i feel like their are certain RO’s who’s gonna be a no for me even if my mc like them. But i might just make different MC’s for different RO’s for some.

I like Levi but he’s more on situationship which I don’t find secure for my mc.

Cal is also very good but I hate cheater and being a cheater, no matter the reason so he’s a big NO.

Rainn, NO

Mason, He’s good for my certain MC who likes to banter a lot (not sensitive) . He seems like he cares but there are times that I feel like, he might put down my mc interms of working with them. Like narcissistic type but not really (I don’t know how to explain it).

Atlast, a BIG YES. He’s grumpy type but not the type to be rude. He’s also kinda sweet with the interaction with my Mc and understand what my Mc is going through. I think he can provide the emotional support and romance that my main Mc is looking for and security.

Andi, a yes. I love bestfriend to lovers troupe. I just don’t like them having the possibility of having no time to interact with my Mc face to face, since they travel a lot.

This is just my opinion though. Anyone else can share their views on the RO’s?

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Pretty sure there’s no cheating on Cal’s route, it’s just waiting for their already existing relationship to fall to pieces and then stepping in

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I guess it depends on someone’s point of view. For me, it is emotional cheating. Like mc picking heart interactions knowing Cal have a partner. Disrespectful for the partner’s feelings. Having that certain little flirty moments with Cal and etc. In my eyes, that’s already in the process of cheating. Cause cheating also takes efforts and little moments like those for it to happen.

Cause my mc asked Rainn if he cheated on her, so I wouldn’t want my mc to be something she despise.

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I love the way you described Cal’s partner :rofl:. Giving Yandere vibe on T, understandable but depending on how excessive they are. Maybe it just me, cause I love crazies :clown_face:. I even though that there’s gonna be a poly between Cal, T and my Mc :crazy_face:. And yes, Atlast is amazing, like a grumpy outside but super sweet in the inside.

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It’s kind of funny to read all those positive or straight up gushing takes on M, simply because they aren’t a acting like complete douchebag right from the start but ā€œonlyā€ like a passive-aggressive ass. It’s like people completely forget to take into account that MC and M broke up/had a fallout in the past (with M optionally being one who did it) and it was apparently serious/messy enough they stayed away from each other for years since. So whatever happened between MC and M, it was far from pleasant.

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I chose not to go into detail so as far as I’m aware M used to be a close friend who I had falling out for something I don’t remember(which means it probably wasn’t that serious). For all I know the reason we stopped communication is cause one of moved away and didn’t stay in touch.

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I don’t think you can really treat it as not something serious without ignoring what the game shows you – i mean, MC is literally ā€œoh fuck me, why themā€ when they see M, and M is a dedicated rival who is going to be acting that part, supposedly in the earnest, soon. It’s not behavior of people who just moved away and have no bad blood between them.

A simple test: imagine it’s Rainn saying these things to MC and see how it colors your perception of (entirely unasked for) snark and teasing.

I suspect since people haven’t actually seen M and MC fighting, they’re quick to interpret their aggression as amiable ribbing between friends, as opposed to low-key hostility it is. Will be fun to see reactions when it ramps up.

That wording is kind of sidestepping the reason(s) why MC would seem happier to be away from M, isn’t it? I mean, Rainn could say the same thing about MC who is pissed off at them at this point. Mind you, i don’t think it was something similar, but one possible explanation could be that M was similar to how Taren is with Cal – clingy, possessive, controlling and tiresome as a partner in the long run.

The fact the breakup was apparently done without even this basic explanation why is also not doing M any favors, although the same can be said about MC if they’re the one who ended things.

(admittedly, if the breakup was MC’s doing then the way it’s presented kind of goes against the whole ā€œbitter rivalsā€ thing these two are supposed to have going. I mean, the reasons you can offer are so lukewarm and without any specific grievances, even to the point you can say it’s a mistake you regret and things were actually great… it creates a dissonance with how we’re told these two are going to interact in the game, because there’s little presented basis for it)

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I didn’t really see any actual hostility, just a lot of snark and some teasing, which I responded in kind. The choices I picked didn’t make it seem like we had bad blood, just that we had a falling out and regardless of how bad it was back then, it’s mellowed out now.
@fsix Gave it another playthrough to see how she was as an ex and seeing the possible reasons for the break up… The only way I can think of that would result in hostility is if you choose to hate them, cause when asking why we broke up M says that it’s because we seemed to be happier without them(and you choose to agree or disagree).

Since A has suffered trauma in the past, I completely understand why they are not easily open to outsiders. I’m glad that A’s behavior is quite consistent with their initial character setup. That is, they’re not excessively harsh and cold. Moreover, they are very attractive. Chapter 1 has shown that A and MC can develop a natural romantic relationship, although there will be challenges because A finds it difficult to open up again. But who knows, I really like the sunshine x grumpy trope, and in my imagination, MC is quite an optimistic person.

As for C and their partner, it’s difficult to judge since MC is an outsider. Furthermore, if this route is not constructed and developed reasonably, C might be seen as unfaithful and MC as a home wrecker, even though the author has stated that C is not cheating here. Of course, players can completely avoid choosing the heart-shaped options that are explicitly flirtatious, so C doesn’t realize MC has feelings for them, or if players feel they’re destroying the relationship between C and their partner. Based on my personal speculation from Chapter 1, C is someone who, once in a relationship, will do everything to maintain it and is not easily swayed by any flirtatious actions. What I mean is, it depends on how the author develops this storyline. C is the character I’m most interested in after A. I want to romance C because I’m against infidelity both in novels and in real life, so I want to see how the author develops C’s route.

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Wow, I really enjoyed this one. Came across a few bugs here and there and some unclear pronoun usage but quite well fleshed out already.

I can’t imagine ever romancing R. I played as someone who moved to the COUNTRY to be with R and I can’t forgive not clearly communicating when the stakes are that high.

Surprisingly I ended up gravitating towards A. I ended up going with him to the bar on a whim and it endeared me to him a lot so chose him for the late night convo as well which was surprisingly sweet.

I’m also a fan of C, but only if their relationship ends naturally. I’d be okay with using flirt options that only affected things in my head (acknowledging I was having feelings but not doing anything about them) but wouldn’t want to pursue a LI that is in a relationship already and even more would not want to have any hand in ending that relationship.

I want lots of these options. I want to be able to pine after C completely silently.

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