I remember a Tumblr post from Parivir that stated the reason it took a year to revive MC was that Parivir needed Param and Salantira to still be weak from the war, to give Arcadia a believable chance of winning the conflict.
In-game, I imagine Tahlia was perfectly happy to see Sister bleeding Param dry, though I imagine she might’ve regretted that a bit when the war turned against Sister. A lot of the Salantira mages who died might’ve had Arcadian blood after all.
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Honestly, I don’t think Tahlia actually would care. She cares about the idea of Arcadia as a whole, not separate individuals as shown when she didn’t rescue MC and other kids from experiments and is forcing people to work for her. She longs for a once glorious civilization, long gone and impossible to restore. She is too stuck in the past to try to cultivate a new future for Arcadians and will use anyone she can to bring back her great country even if she has to walk on corpses, Arcadian or otherwise.
I didn’t know it was to that extent. I thought she had to be in someone’s presence to fully read their mind and access their memories, otherwise, she gets a PING! from a general direction where someone is. Add to that the unlimited supply of mana I hear about and we got a massively OP character. Yeah, there is no way she didn’t know about Sister’s plans, and if that is the case why did she let her go along with it? Why Arcadia didn’t make a move against Param during the war? Or what purpose DID the war serve that we don’t know about?
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That’s quitter talk!
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My personal thought is she hopes to essentially do a massive coup of ex arcadian territory, assuming such a thing is cohesive to a functioning empire. As is pointed out by some of the separate paths especially the nightsaber one, when they deal with nobles who actively go against Arcadians they are more prone to replacing the noble line entirely than to just kill whoever is the issue. My thought process around this would be if you were to fill the “Ex-Arcadian” territories with these nobles sympathetic to the Arcadians they would more likely join a new Arcadian Empire rather than be against it.
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But after the BBQ Leon would be super sympathetic toward MC, and even before he was kind to Arcadians and Tahlia still wants to axe him. Even tho MC could just guild trip him to giving them a bunch of lands, maybe even independence.
Quick! Play the Rocky theme!
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Yea I think thats the kinda the problem and the reason why most people don’t really want to pick sides and/or participate in this conflict. There is no actual good reason for it. Sure, in the past we’ve seen why this conflict happen and both sides have some pointers but at the moment there is no good reason to go to war. Arcadians are not treated as some sort of sub-humans by Param (apart from nobles), most people don’t really care about them. And most arcadians don’t have a hatred and resentment towards Param - meaning you can easily make a peace between both nations. There are hints that the Church might be doing some shady things but its too early to say anything.
Me, after realizing I can get revenge on my old friend for setting me on fire (this matter can only be settled in a ring)
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Yes but that doesn’t sate my lust for conquest.
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I may not care about the Arcadian cause, but laying waste to Param with war will hurt Leon more, so I’m all for it.
And maybe I’ll be able to usurp Tahlia and end up in charge…
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I keep seeing people saying they’ll spare Saine and Ilya, they’ll convince Arcadia to spare them, even though both are frankly, the second and third names on Arcadia’s hitlist after Leon himself. And not only that, but y’all are assuming they won’t take issue with “Arcadia” invading their country, killing their people (because if you think “Arcadia” won’t commit atrocities, you’re naive), and also killing Leon, who, despite their anger, I have not seen anything to indicate that they hate him enough to want/be ok with him being murdered. Like… have y’all not considered that you might make an enemy of them in your crusade?
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Sure, but that doesn’t mean they WILL be enemies, just that they CAN.
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I don’t know. I have a feeling Parivir will let us persuade Arcadians and/or Thalia to not kill them (not saying Thalia will just let them go freely, but its still better than death if you ask me) if we play our cards right. But I have to agree with you, they probably wont hate once they learn we picked Arcadia’s side, but that revelation will be a huge blow for them and they become our unwanted enemies if we choose to go that path
I can see Ilya being ok with us killing Leon (it heavily depends on circumstances but still) but we are talking about conquering an entire nation. Sooner or later, innocent people will die and I don’t see our old friends being okay with something like that - they have no connection to Arcadia apart from us, why would they betray their country and their people for something like that?
“I know what I have to do but I don’t know if I have the strength to do it”
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I think, at the very least, Ilya will get it if the MC didn’t ask her to forgive Leon.
That said, if they don’t understand the need to destroy Leon after what he did to the MC, then screw them. I have no problem killing them too, if they want to defend that dick.
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It really gets complicated if your RO is from Param and you support Arcadia
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I sort of wonder if deciding to kill Leon and side with Arcadia will make him think his initial assumptions about you (that you were supporting Arcadia, or at least sympathetic to their cause) were right, or if he will think that you never planned to do so, and that this is because of your desire for revenge against him…
One of my mages is doing it because they have always been sympathetic to Arcadia and wanted to learn more, and the execution was just the final push for them to go “fuck, I really was on the wrong side”, while another of mine is straight up doing it because they can’t bring themself to care about anyone who hurts them… Ah, the joy of drama. I’m really excited to see how the Parami and Arcadian characters feel about the mage and their possible new views on the world.
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I will give Ilya and Saine the chance to at the very least stand aside.
If they choose to fight me then that’s on them.
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For me, Leon isn’t the only threat to deal with from Param, it’s also the Church of Jove that demonized the Arcadians and Ilya is heavily devoted to their order from what it seems so it might be hard for her to break away from that but then again, it could be easier for her since she probably would realize that what she learned in the Church was just a lie to make Param look good so it’d put her into a weird position.
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I never got a feel from Ilya that she is devoted to the Church. Someone being devoted would probably be less okay with their friend/lover killing their religious figure, if you ask me. She immediately decided to try and rescue us and even after hearing the truth from us - she still wants to go with that plan
Oh no, I can totally see that. It’s been a whole year and a half after our death and Ilya becoming new Saintess, I bet she already sees some fishy things going on inside the church.
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I would say that she’s smart enough to know that there was more to the story than what the general public and the people close believes. And not to mention that her religious beliefs will be shattered once the truth about the Church comes out but I think it’s more likely that she stays with them and actually reforms it once she somehow gets the full story of what happened.
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My MC’s RO was Leon. Now it’s not.
He can’t think anything once he’s a pile of ash. But my MC will be happy to explain to him that the reason she now sides with Arcadia is him and his actions. If he doesn’t believe it for the ten minutes he’s burning to death, who cares. He didn’t believe the MC he supposedly loved when she said she was innocent, either, so his opinions are worth a pile of dog crap to her.
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The church predates the war with Arcadia and the demonization dogma is being largely phased out. The church has been trying to bury the hatchet, I don’t think it needs to burn.