I’m not even against the male gender locked games. I think authors should be free to create what they want, but what really pisses me off is when a female locked games is released (or when in movies the lead is not a cis, white men and hell breaks loose, I am looking at you, Star Wars) , and then it gets lots of negativity, hate and harassment from male consumers, just because they can’t play it as they want.
Is that extremely selfish, abusive and childish attitude what I can’t stand.
Aren’t there more male players than female ones though?
Kinda make sense you’d aim at your target audience
True, its just a shame. Its also like saying that because there are more tall people in a population we should only cater to them. People lose out, businesses lose out.
In CoG games? I think is unlikely.
I’m not certain, of course, but it feels like here the balance between female and male players is quite even.
I don’t think the majority of the games are necessarily intended for guys
In general I think the gender lock idea isn’t really good for CoG, in a game with animations I can see some reason why to include males only (cause it takes a lot of effort to make female models too, and if your main audience is male you don’t really gain much money) but in a choice game you can just change a line in the code and copy a variable rather than he/she and that’s it
I don’t think this is entirely true.
I think this is only a problem now that woman and other groups have a stronger voice. This type of men didn’t complain with Samus, men didn’t complain with Tomb Raider, or with any action game with a female lead. But that was then, when the players were mostly men and this characters, even being female, were adjusted to their tastes while woman kept doing their own thing.
Now, woman speak out loud, lgtb speaks out loud, other ethnicities speak out loud, and a lot of men feel threatened by this. They see how slowly their opinion is not the only thing that matters now, and they hate it. They are so used to be at the top that they hate even the concept of not being the only ones anymore. Like, all this conflict is so unnecessary? They are crying for nothing, but still make it look like if their lives were threatened.
And with this, other games start to have complains. The new Tomb Raider? Rubbish, just more feminist propaganda, Horizon Zero? The same. And like this with many late games that have a female lead.
So, maybe it would be unwise from the company point of view to create more female leads, but this is not because there are way more male players, but because a lot of this male players have the mentality of a 2 year old that hasn’t learn basic concepts of human interaction.
The first thing that came to my mind 
PS. This post is not in any form an attack against males on the forum, just a comic relief
Twins are born the son becomes the Earl and the daughter is sned to the church. It is a good hundred years from the first game I think they’re on the 13th Earl. But it’s all about the daughter going into the church and how she can end up affecting the landscape through her Ecclesiastical career. Which I’m pretty exciting because she’s going through the equivalency of the Protestant Reformation that is just starting up.
Yeah I actually see a lot of games where people claim the games are all feminist/social justice warriors propaganda and things like that.
See all the hate for the new battlefield 5 for example (although somewhat justified in this case cause you wouldn’t see disabled women with a prosthetic arm fighting in the frontlines in world war 2)
On the perceived change in attitudes, I don’t think it’s entirely fair to compare the “gaming community”, as it were, of today compared to even a decade ago. Over the past decade the market has exploded in size and accessibility, the consumers of today are not the same as those of the past. The larger the demographic, the easier it is for there to be jerks; anonimity naturally assists this. I suspect the most vocal are typically from the younger part of the cohort, below the average 33-year old gamer.
However, that alone cannot be the cause of this. My perception is that over the past decade (at least) there has been very much a reaction from certain sections of the gaming community. Now, they are passionate because they see it as an integral part of themselves, and do not know how to react to the modern gaming sphere, where not only is it easier to play games than before, but where it is no longer considered socially anathema. Gaming for a long time has been perceived as a male domain, and stereotypes of gamers have been largely disfavourable.
Initially, the reaction was against “moral guardians”. But over the past decade, to say nothing of the current political climate (which has affected this debate absolutely, and probably intensified it) I have had the perception that gamers have spent the past few years considering themselves exploited. By predatory practices by publishers, by a press they do not necessarily trust. An industry they may consider (whether true or not) to have lower standards than the past. This is an environment that will encourage some individuals to lash out; it is certainly not a healthy one for the passionate. Over the past decade the reaction has escalated to anyone who would appear to deny them what they consider theirs.
I believe that it is also worth considering that since gaming is considered by many to be a stress reliever, there may be a perception that their stress relief time is being impinged upon by others, which may result in a particularly harsh reaction. MOBA games have a reputation for having particularly toxic communities, and I don’t think that’s anomalous. If one’s time is limited and one appears to have wasted an hour, it would not be unexpected for there to be anger. To take this to a whole, there are elements that don’t want their stress reliever to change, to become something “else”, and will react angrily to it. There are gamers who consider themselves disenfranchised, and will react to what they consider to be further disenfranchisement.
because a lot of this male players have the mentality of a 2 year old
Also, I believe you are being rather unfair by tarring players as having the mentality of a 2 year old (this sort of blasé characterisation doesn’t necessarily help discussion, either). The majority of people who play games don’t even glance at discussion forums let alone express their opinion. It takes effort to do so, and it is easier to unleash an expletive-laden rant than not to; there are also those who derive enjoyment out of it to drive a response. And there’s a not-insignificant number, I should think, who would like to express their opinion but don’t.
Apologies for the long and rambling post, I’m not articulate enough to get this across.
Neither are zombies, and no one said anything about the expansion being unrealistic 
And @Thfphen110 I would answer you, but I am not sure of understanding what you are talking about and how is related to what I said… Bear in mind that english is my 3rd langauge 
Hmm kinda true I guess, you also often see in this game people running with heavy machine guns despite being wounded and being able to regenerate their health after like 10 seconds and these type of things are a lot more unrealistic than the woman fighting in the front-lines
Honestly, I’ve never met a guy in real life who complained about the protagonist not being male. The most I’ve heard is a few men that are mad that some people want a reduction in gratuitous sex appeal (the women who dress is skimpy outfits when they are supposed to be going to battle) but I haven’t heard that complaint in years.
What we have is a small minority of guys kicking up a fuss over these things and that’s what people hear the most. And I think there’s a bigger problem at stake. I think in games and movies in general hear that they need to diversify so they throw in a chosen minority without any thought to their character. Me in particular, I don’t want female characters, I kinda want good female characters, but most of all I want good characters.
I mean as cool as it is, it’s gotta be frustrating for an author to put out a game and instead of people playing it and hearing criticism/praise about the content, plot, choices, characters, etc. a good chunk of comments are either praise or hatred because they have a female locked protagonist? I realize it’s this way because the topic has become so divisive over the past 10 years but still it’s kind of sad. I can see why most developers would just rather be inclusive to everyone as possible just to avoid these arguments and debates. And that’s nice but I think we’re really missing out on having some unique, individual perspectives.
I’ve yet to relate to a female protagonist as much as I’ve related and loved Lee from the Walking Dead or Joel from the Last of Us. I have loved and related to female protagonists but only when you can choose your gender. Commmander Shepard from Mass Effect for example is everything I want a heroine to be. I think developers can get so bogged down with creating the ‘female experience’ that they either overcompensate and turn them into a characature. (And still fall into the same tropes anyway. Still waiting for my rescue my husband/boyfriend game). I just wish that a female protagonist game could come out and everyone would react to it the way they do when a male protagonist game comes out.
Then lucky you… When Horizon Zero came out, some of my husband’s friends were so pissed for “another game with a girl? They are pushing this in our faces!!”. So I envy you if you haven’t crossed ways with this type of people.
I know its a small minority, that’s why I say “this type of men” and not men in general. As I said before too, most men are normal people, as anyone else.
And I completely agree with all you said. Also really looking forward for a game that lets me rescue my men haha.
Hang around the Internet long enough , and you’ll see plenty . it’s like a spam bot , that show up everywhere .
On the topic at hand , I say this :
‘well…if a story is medieval…then it’s ‘Normal’ for womenz having a lesser role…cose y’know…it was like that in the past’ .
I personally don’t like this . Why ? because it can become easely…something used as a ‘AH! don’t kill meh…I have a free card get out of Jail!’ .
As an exuse . Unless a story is really written in a real time historic thing (with dates , and real country and stuff) , the ‘medieval’ doesn’t have to always mean that . I can write about peoples using pitchfork and yet put a female soldier in barrack and put a man as necro about to get roasted .
Also the exuse of 'I can’t write from a ‘opposite gender’ point of view . Does that mean the whole story only has ‘chosen gender’ ? cose to me , if you put 'opposite gender ’ in minor role…how can you write those at all ?
Maybe I’m wrong . But I have seen these way too much . And I don’t mean in choice of games , but elsewhere . You name it , it’s there . I’ve seen in games , I’ve seen in Manga as well . Where peoples say ‘Oh…he just can’t draw females !’ .
Nowdays , when something is locked Males…be it a game or a Movie (the lead is a dude)…I just skip them .
Looks like the ratios have evened a bit, from 1:0 to 14:1. Not a substantial jump, but hey, it’s progress.
And hey, I love me some Pride and Prejudice.
EDIT for clarity: I’m not trying to be dismissive or sarcastic. I appreciate The Courting of Miss Bennet being a female-genderlock game as well as the fact that its source material is a book I love.
I mean, that’s not really true. There’ve been women soldiers pretty much constantly through history. Sure, it’s been prohibited many times, but that just leads to women dressing as men in order to get into battle. Sure, it wouldn’t be typical, but there’s no reason the protagonist of Study in Steampunk would need to be typical. Besides, the setting already features a woman who is frequently in disguise as a man. It could also just be framed as “the main character is a woman of exceptional talents, so the government hired her” without disrupting the story in any way. Furthermore, the main character’s role in the war was as an army doctor, so it wouldn’t be at all a stretch to have a character who had a role like Florence Nightingale during the war. There would be plenty of options even within the Victorian-style setting to give an option for a female protagonist. (Not to mention if the protagonist were to be trans.)
All that said, I do like Study in Steampunk, but that’s in spite of the genderlock.
Agreed 
and one thing that often bothers me is when ROs will behave differently based on the main character’s gender, so they’ll be more submissive with a man, and more dominant with a woman, or if the RO is a gender-flipper and their behavior changes like that when they flip, making for a domineering male version and a passive female version 
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In my opinion, the extreme reactions I see made about Battlefield 5 and our latest HG release is held by more male gamers than is publically acknowledged. Even in this community, I see comments that shade into the furtherance of wrong and misinformed “knowledge”.
An example: A male protagonist is needed in WW1/WW2 sims because only males fought on the front lines. Or my favorite: Women were only baby-making machines or chatelaines in Medieval Europe so to see them as anything else is wrong … many of these views are hidebound to Victorian wrongheaded notions that have been disproved and refuted over the past two centuries.
There is a proven reason that established titles like: Ghostbusters, Oceans Heist movies and Star Wars are being greenlit by the studios to be remade into more “diverse versions” of their originals. It is because the studios know the originals were big enough draws to the “traditional male” viewership that they still would make money.
There are a couple of things wrong with this. First, it says to the movie world in general that only those movies made successful by the “traditional male” viewership are worthy of producing and secondly when vicious powerplays by these attack-dog minorities happen to attack the females involved the producers themselves are not made to defend those being attacked. What happened recently with the Last Jedi star and what happened to the Ghostbuster remake star is proof that this needs to change.
I agree. The state of the film industry, gaming industry, and even what I suspect to be the driving frustration of many of the comments in this thread, are all but symptoms of an underlying disease. The attacks and baseless criticisms that women have endured at the hands of the shortsighted, will only continue unless the fundamental problem is addressed.