will we ever somehow get to sit on the throne, and not vicariously through a puppet. ass meet throne type shi. and will it be possible without romancing the empress and/or without being a scheming and manipulative a**hole to augusta?
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You can (become viable to) marry the Empress and become de facto Emperor (for whatâs worth) at the end of the most recent update. Provided your MC is in love with her and Titus gets removed.
Not sure how female MC is viewed in this kind of arrangement, i.e. what title they receive.
Yes, i meant if you have ongoing affair, regardless if itâs genuine.
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Perhaps. All in due time.
Though if there is a path to becoming the sole ruler for Iudia for the MC, let it be safe to assume that it will not be healthy for Augusta, who is the current heir should anything happen to JuliaâŚ
You donât need to be in love with her, if you fake your relationship with her sheâll propose a chaste partnership and marriage as equals as long as you meet the prerequisites.
Empress Consort (or just Imperial Consort) to her Empress Regnant. Itâs only happened once before in Iudian history, but it is possible, albeit quite controversial. In that permutation Julia claims she will get a holy dispensation from the Church to marry another woman.
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yeah but emperor consort, right? thatâs like giving me a plugged out controller
Just saw the poll and damn, I also didnât think playing a paladin would be that popular. Meanwhile, here I am with my rogue wanting power cause they think theyâd be a better ruler.
@Keretsolie_Vupru Not necessarily, even without it you debatably have almost as much power as Julia, especially rn with her being sick.
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True, but if your MC is a man then short of turning entire country upside down you can pretty much forget about anything more anyway. The Church will sooner push a living grenade up your ass than see the ânatural orderâ and their power overturned.
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you naughty naughty. you teasing me.
that complicates things, but not a dealbreaker at the end of the day. ill exile titus and her to an idyllic coastline, and let them live out the rest of their lives without ever being in want.
thatâd be a shame. really hoping we can pull a napoleon.
Well, now, this might get me to change my motivation from Duty to Love. I wasnât at all interested in supporting war crimes out of misguided love, but if thereâs actually an option to specify that itâs parental love⌠now Iâm interested.
Would this be something you implement from the start or only at the end of Act 1, where it sounds like youâll offer an option to change motivation?
(also what role in-game, aside from RP, will motivation play?)
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Only from the end of Act I, or in Chapter IV where a romanced Prefect can reevaluate their feelings about Julia if theyâve expressed discontent. I should specify you donât need to romance Julia or be Augustaâs true parent in order to be motivated by parental love towards her.
It provides flavor text and some additional choices in certain choiceblocks. I donât want to lock players down specific choices/paths due to their motivations, as motives and beliefs can be, well, complicated! Better that you have the opportunity to choose what that means for the MC.
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Thanks! So I suppose that means I can stick towards duty and then shift to parental love towards the end of Act 1 then.
And yes, that makes sense â you can be a parental figure to Augusta regardless of whether youâve been her birth parent after all.
Ahh, okay! Fascinating. And yes, I agree â flavor text and some additional choices makes sense. Locking paths would be rough for something thatâs bound to be multidimensional, picking one motivation doesnât mean you donât have others that are almost as strong after all (like if I switched to parental love, that duty motivation wouldnât disappear internally).
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Surprised Titus isnât more liked. Heâs a good person in an awful situation and even though I play Love Motivation August dad gettibg to reconcile with him has been a highlight for me. Coming to the realization that Augusta can never really be your daughter but that she can have Titus as her real father is tough but I like being able to help him and I bury the hatchet. Doubt itâll happen but Iâd like to be friends with him eventually.
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Titus can be very hostile to MC who is sleeping with his wife, and a lot of players donât like it when NPC gives them a lip, no matter how well justified that might be.
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The jerks are supposed to know that Iâm the main character!
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Why do you think theyâre giving you lip?
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I try to reconcile with Titus, but his wife was married to him on threat of death and she had a lover already. When she understandably fails to love him, he essentially throws a fit and abandons his daughter (in the non-parent playthroughs) for thirteen years of her life. Titus is in a bad position, but he chose to make it worse for everyone involved, including himself.
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Titusâ absence was more intermittent than that, but enough that Augusta saw him as âthatâs my dad and he comes and goes I suppose.â Though if the MC doesnât raise Augusta, she certainly has a deeper attachment to him than otherwise, as a fleeting parental figure is more to her than none.
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I donât think itâs as clear cut as that â Julia essentially orders Titus to stay away from her (and by extension her daughter), itâs not as if Titus wants to be absent from Augustaâs life.
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I donât think this is entirely fair to him. Julia is pretty abusive towards him whenever theyâre together.
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I think there is the fact that Titus is something of a constant reminder that Julia is essentially a Regent. She won the throne on the battlefield, but her legitimacy is derived through Titus and she is ultimately a caretaker of her daughterâs throne. She resents Titus still commanding some if not most of the legitimacy of her rule that she won though force of arms and must always keep a wary eye on any attempt that he (or someone who has made him their catâs paw) may use his bloodright claim to subvert her. Add to that she considers him a weakling and schemer, honestly how most generals regard lifetime politicians, then I think the relationship is as sensible as it is expected.
Heâs a problem she can kill away which is how she deals with most of themâŚits frustrating.
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I do feel bad for him, especially as Iâve gone the route of my MC doesnât love Julia but sees being in a relationship as her as the best way to gain the power he needs to guide the realm. Hadnât ever imagined that Iâd have the option of the heir being my daughter, playing the doomed route of powerhungry but trying to raise a good empress in Augusta, which makes me feel even worse for the lad. He knows she isnât his and still seems to love and wish to be there for her.
Titus seems like a good guy in a pretty shitty situation.
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