“Someone like Victoria”? But what bad things has she done to Augusta so far that are not justified? Victoria is not evil, but she is certainly the main character of her own story. It’s kind of harsh, ngl. Iblin raised her like that to exact his own agenda and vengeance, so that doesn’t mean Victoria is absolutely evil. She is just a complex person with her own goals, and I am sure a compassionate Augusta could break Victoria out of her shell.
Be cringe. “May you find Victory on the battlefield” chuuni ass.
Victoria may not be evil, but she has shown she is very committed to vengeance against Julia and her dynasty. Marrying Augusta to Victoria would give Victoria more legitimacy to her rule, can allow her to create a power base within Iudia, and sway whatever factions Augusta alienates to her own side for her own purposes. Its giving Victoria not only the close proximity to kill Augusta, but also the means to do so and replace her as Empress. I truly don’t see any benefit to marrying Victoria, regardless of Augustas alignment/personality.
Whomst’d’t’ve amongst us did not spend their mid teens as a tryhard though?
It’d end a destructive civil war, reconcile the Matrician class, and give Augusta someone with skills and perspectives which compliment her own (especially if Augusta’s been raised as a paragon).
It is absolutely a gamble which might end up blowing up in your face, but getting your hooks into Victoria at a time when she’s still young and impressionable and engineering a match that could turn into a genuine romantic attachment might just get you the other half of the Empress Iudia needs right now.
Exactly that! The other possible matches are just too boring. This is a gamble but the best one.
I’m generally a risk-averse person, but I am willing to roll the dice on this one.
If it ends with me getting stabbed, then so be it. I’ll be in good company (and Scilla, I guess).
The Prefect can fill in that role, as we will no doubt do, until she gains the abilities necessary to manage Iudia, and finds a consort that she desires both for personal and political reasons. But that’s just me with my “Dad Hat” on.
Don’t forget her two lovely daughters
im very risk averse so i will just fight war against, half of my own empire , pharia and existential invasion from people that just burnt down fantasy China whille allying with senate and planning to betray them. im sure it will all go well
I never said that she’s evil.
I can understand from her background and upbringing why she is the way she is, but ultimately she’s still trying to depose the current ruling family (which would include killing our own daughter, if you play it that way) and seems fanatical about it. Even in a scenario where she could be brought to the table in a potential marriage pact, who’s to say she wouldn’t just be biding her time to overthrown Augusta and take power solely for herself?
That’s putting a hell of a lot of faith on the chance that Victoria might see reason. Sure, it could possibly work, but it seems far more likely to me that it’ll blow up in our faces than not.
Of all the possible matches, it’s by far the worst choice in my view.
Would it though? Sure, you might halt it in the short term, but you could also just as easily be simply postponing it for it to remerge further down the line (in the event that Victoria is still scheming behind Augusta’s back).
I can see the potential merits of what you’re saying, but to me the risks of it it going wrong (and what that would mean if that came to pass) are way too high to take a chance on.
That’s the gamble: if you can get Victoria and Augusta to genuinely connect as partners and actually build a bond of trust and mutual affection, you could make it work.
If you don’t?
Then this isn’t a peace, this is a cease-fire for twenty years.
The word “could” is doing a lot of heavy-lifting here though.
Yes, it could work, but from my perspective it’s more likely to go disastrously wrong.
IDK, it just seems rather reckless (and wildly optimistic) to rest the fate of the Empire on the chance that Victoria won’t just eventually stab her new wife in the back (literally and/or metaphorically), potentially causing more destruction and misery than if you’d just chopped off her head to begin with.
I’m generally risk-averse too, though of course there are times where I do think you need take a chance to get what you want - I just don’t think this is one of them.
I feel the underlying cause of the civil war isn’t dynastic it is political. The only reason either Augusta or Victoria have armies at their disposal is the bitter divide between the established aristocracy in the Senate and the threat they feel the rising power of the foederati pose. At stake is control of and the loyalty of the legions, and whichever side they declare for will determine the victor. Of course in the pursuit of that victory the civil war may weaken the empire to the point where external powers or a politically losing but physically intact foederati flip the table. I suspect even the negotiated settlement by a grey eminence MC will be at best a ceasefire for a lifetime.
It is absolutely both those things - but if the narrative makes it possible, then expect there to be multiple guides on how to do it within weeks of release.
That’s the other thing: Augustoria means that they’ll have to adopt an heir, something which weakens the precedent of bloodright inheritance which the Senatorial Matricians have been so antsy about. That gives the Prefect a bargaining chip to offer the Matricians in exchange foe allowing concessions in favour of the Foederati.
Why Augusta becoming First Citizens ? yes I romance the consul, but I still want her to become Empress
and what is the maximum levels ?
she always becomes first citizen if you ally with senate. she gets to become empress if you ally with barbarians. senate is pretty open about fact that they don’t want to emperor to hold power and instead want it for themselves
what level?
from what is see you succeed in battle of kyro and got best result but you have failed in spire(darius plot )
these is some small recommendation but going for 4 stat spread generally is not good idea. your character would massively be improved if you had 0 warfare and then spent those 2 points on other things. game has quite decent amount of 6 stat points and even some 7 point checks
my another rant about things
i finally read what can happens if you take agusta to train in yard. i always thought that weapon training is lest needed skill for future empress (which i still think is true even after Augusta barbeque).my train of thought’s was that warfare/veteran prefect should be best person to do it who better to train agusta in self defence i was wrong soo wrong. warfare/veteran prefect is literally worse person to do it. every warfare/veteran check exists just to piss praetorians for negligible gains
I dont think these is bad, not every stat check should be super good sometimes using hammer on everything should not work
i think that it would be interesting if you could do both train her in yard and take her to library(Aguste defending check then could be made much harder to pass and you get big rel drop if you force her to do both ). definitely no ulterior motives
i just think as it currently stands very few people will chose to see yard subplot.
i was also thinking about stats and one good way of balancing game for more casual players would be adding some combined stat checks something like
IF (economy>3 and Scholarship > 3) and (economy + Scholarship)> 8
these would make so that stat in which players invested 2 or 3 points wont stay ussles going forward. these is just in idea im throwing out there.
That’s not entirely the case. The Senate are openly opposed to autocracy and the trappings of monarchy, but Consentia will tell the Prefect that she isn’t a republican absolutist. She wants a strong executive and a strong legislature, with guardrails to prevent abuses from the former. Augusta will still have considerable power in this, in fact a Tyrant Augusta agrees because she thinks she can manipulate the Senate from within the Senate.
I might go back and edit that in my revisions. The intent was that the Praetorians would be offended the Prefect stepped into where their duty is, but that might not be telegraphed well.
In any case, Augusta will have one more chance to learn a skill in Chapter VII, and Combat already comes in handy for a Prefect who doesn’t make it to the palace in time, as Augusta successfully defends herself there.
julia never needed to manipulate, i think while agusta will most likely still wield considerable power it will decrease going forward especially for paragon and puppet agustas.
no need for it it’s telegraphed pretty well.
can we also teach her some other skill instead of combat ?
Julia also was an absolute monarchist who believed in divine right to rule. She only barely tolerated the Senate because it was politically convenient to do so. The Senate path inherently takes a more principate approach, which hardly means that Augusta will necessarily have less all that much less power, only that she will need to wield it differently, with a defter hand that puts forth that she is a ‘citizen’, but the first amongst citizens.
Yes.
Prefect and cato are going to remind senate that they also are only citizens. It should be fun to see there face when it happens.
We just whanted emprees to not to be tyrant you cant force us to do same
Yhea im senats biggest hater on forums.
how much money would treasury make if for example i don’t know state sized all the senators estate asking for a friend?
those poor fulls started rebelion when all of there wealth is consecrated in ludia or attika. I’m not trapped with them they are trapped with me.
tyrant agusta 100% has that vibe