Answers are: Green eyes, pale skin, high cheekbones
Alright, just finished it.
Holy shit.
Also, found two typos:
Thereās a 1 there in the fourth option.
And here it should be her not his.
I feel this is my soul.
YO. WHAT AN UPDATE. Thank you.
I HAVE THOUGHTSSS:
- While I wasnāt certain either way on if K had Ment abilities or not (which, yāall are amazing guessing that all the way back in August), Iām very happy with this particular plot twist. Weāll have to see how it plays out, but I think it already adds quite a bit more depth to Kās character. I know a large theme of this story so far is finding strength in what makes you different to others, and I feel like K trying to show everyone that they are useful even without Ment abilities is another example of that. Could probably even be a healthy example for Buttonās who are resentful of their Pollard Zero? Plus, as much as I love K, them āreadingā our minds and being blatantly unapologetic about it came off as a huge asshole move. So Iām glad there was more clarity on that front.
- Plus, Iāve been missing K, and Iām so really excited to see them play a more active role within the story. This does beg the question though: if this is what K was trying to tell us about last chapter, what exactly were they going to reveal? Just their Pollard score? How much did they intend to (and were allowed to) reveal before Rosy and the dean met with Button?
- My heart grows ten sizes with every Nick interaction. I love his well-intentioned protectiveness, and how loving he is when Button shuts down/panics during the meeting. Also, that moment where itās revealed he did mess up quite a bit at the start of his job, and that thereās parts of us that he envies? Love it. I love the idea that your Button can almost idolize him so much that they forget that he too is a person with flaws and insecurities.
- My Button isnāt romancing Rosy, but I really liked him in this chapter. Heās a hardass (which definitely contrasts with Nick who leans more towards coddling Button), but still has good intentions and a healthy amount of respect for Button. Especially Buttons who have that respect for and confidence in themselves.
- Screw Clarence. I hope one of the endings involves him getting kicked out of the school purely for being an ass lol
Iāll have to replay at a later time, but I loved this update. I felt like it humanized a lot of the characters in a way.
Mc lovesā¦
NICK!
Mc lovesā¦
COOKIES!
and Mc lovesā¦
Undercover
Ironically, I now feel less inclined to romance K. I do agree Rosyās scenes were great though.
Oh, and I once again managed to piss off Nick.
Hereās that part if you guys wanna see it.
This update was beautiful. I love Saint Nick so much itās unrealš
Loved everything about it.
Canāt wait for next chapter!
Thank you so much! You very much hit the nail on the head with the theme of finding strengths in setbacks and K being a prime example of that. Kent may be named after Superman, but K is very much meant to be a Batman-type. No powers, just hard work.
I personally find Kās behavior to be inexcusable if they were a Ment (as is Nohās, but at least you know what youāre getting from that corner). Iāve been pretty surprised that people were gung-ho to romance K without realizing that there were extenuating circumstances (Also, I would 100% recommend going back to play Kās route with this new info, since you can realize what an absolute awkwardāalbeit stoicāsoftie they truly are.)
I can totally see why people could feel differently about K after that reveal. Especially if some their appeal in K was wrapped up in how unapologetic he was at first glance. I think I just really like the potential for parallels now between K and Button. Theyāre both not only not Ments, but they both are also subverting peopleās expectations of them based on the powerful families they come from. Glitch kind of hinted at it when we first met him, but thereās a lot of obvious parallels now between their stories, and I think it could create some really interesting conversations.
@wildelight Ooohh, I definitely will now. I love the idea of Kent being just as confused as we were about what was happening. Also, this definitely does put the whole ālocking Kās route behind saving the shih tzusā choice into perspective. We havenāt gotten to know him too well, but K is pretty reserved. Not too trusting of others. Him not being able to read Buttonās mind means heās not always able to pick up on peopleās intentions. Button, however, showing up at his doorstep to show unprompted compassion for his pets does show a lot about Buttonās character. I think you said somewhere on your Tumblr that K shows his affection through actions more than words ā so Iām sure he looks for that in others too.
Been pretty vocal about this in the past, so I wonāt retread old ground too much, but suffice it to say that Iām pretty much with the author on this one. My K-romance playthrough was 100% contingent on the ānot really a Ment (or at least somehow not reading the MCās mind)ā theory. Was honestly ready to abandon the playthrough if it turned out to not be the case. So, definitely relieved at the confirmation.
So, one thing I notice regarding the āMCās secretā choice is that the Sally crush option (and any other Sally-related narration) is contingent on having kissed Sally, rather than whether or not they actually have a crush as determined by the sallycrush variable. Is this how this relationship is going to be tracked in the future, i.e. the game wonāt acknowledge a crush unless you formally started the romance by kissing her? (Iām really hoping not, for what itās worth.) Either way, this seems sort of odd, given that it makes more sense to treat this as a closely-guarded secret if they didnāt actually kiss, no?
Apologies if this comes off as pushy, but can there can an option in the shih tzu route to have an option where Button cares about the dogs and finds K attractive? Such as:
Sallyās main romance route is, in current plans (which are always subject to change, as Iām learning is a necessity in IF), contingent on kissing her on the forehead or lips in Chapter 4. The crush will be acknowledged in other placesāespecially if you choose to romance other characters or you decide to sacrifice on the alter of fraternal devotion and set her and Nick up (which wonāt work unless youāre truly in favor of their relationship, because Nick = mind reader). Currently, youāre presented with the active choice of moving on from a Sally crush if romancing Glitch.
More mechanics-relevant: I need to go back and alter certain crush variables when Glitchās romance starts. I have a lazy workaround at the beginning of Chapter 7 added, because I didnāt want to break everyoneās saves, but all romance/crush/attraction stats are getting complete reworking come Chapter 10 when all saves will be wiped.
I donāt know if thatās really a satisfactory answer? Iām trying to more conscientious and not retroactively code things in prior chapters because people were (understandably!) upset about stats breaking with each update, but it leads to some sloppy workarounds (and some less nuanced flavor text) until I can wipe all the save files and implement my fixes.
Iāll think about it! I already plan on adding more options for Kās route for asexual/demi/otherwise slower-build romance paths with K that donāt hinge on initial physical attraction, so I donāt want to overload the screen with combo choices. If you choose the puppies need you, itās more about what Buttonās #1 focus is at the time is on the dogs, and whether or not they find K attractive isnāt irrelevant (you can choose that option and still express attraction to K in later choices!)
Even if Button finds K attractive, āthe puppies need me!ā mindset is (imo) implied by their very decision to knock on the door.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by āmainā? Iām aware that Sallyās romance takes a while to start if you donāt get the ball rolling early on, but is this a situation where it actually doesnāt come to fruition at all until the game is almost over? Just how much content does this lock you out of?
I donāt want to seem querulous here, but between the longstanding nature of the MCās crush (should you choose to establish it) and the newfound presence of Nick in their head (especially if your relationship with him isnāt great, as with my relevant MC), initiating the romance at that particular moment felt way too soon and very much out of alignment with where my MC would have been mentally and emotionally. I donāt mind waiting a bit, but if not kissing her then and there means the romance functionally doesnāt happen, Iām worried it wonāt feel worthwhile in the end? Particularly if the crush is only sparsely acknowledged outside of scenarios where you give up on Sally (which isnāt at all what my plan wasāit just didnāt feel like the right time when the opportunity presented itself).
You donāt come across as querulous at all! Sorry for misunderstanding.
The problem is that Iām trying not to really commit to specifics, because Iām finding that things keep changing from what I had originally planned. And then people get upset because I inadvertently lied, and I feel bad for not fulfilling the expectations that I was the one to set, and no oneās really happy.
Ever since K was changed to a hidden route, Iām really trying not to overpromise.
If you donāt initiate Sallyās romance in Chapter 4, her romance likely wonāt have another jump point until all other romances have initiated and Nick is out of your headāwhich isnāt happening right away. (Apologies to @Baam because I know how much they love all this quality Nick time )
If you hold off on the kiss, you wonāt get much āromance relationship fluffā with Sally, but you will get a potentially more satisfying/dramatic/rain-lashing-against-your-face-in-a-thunder-storm confession moment since youāve waited a long time for what your Button feels is the āright moment.ā I canāt say whether or not the wait will feel worthwhile, though. Iāll try to make it so!
As for Sally not being acknowledged, as I said in my above post, there will be more flavor text about the various crushes and ROs added once the romance stats get reworked and saves get flushed
Thanks for clarifying. Like I said, I definitely donāt mind waiting a whileāI think Iād probably opt to wait until Nick was out of my MCās head anyway, so that sounds about right to me. My main concern was that this would be one of those situations where if you missed your shot, the āromanceā you would get would be more of an afterthought in the epilogue to tie up the loose end, which I would be pretty bummed about. But it doesnāt sound like thatās the case?
And of course:
Thisā¦does sound awfully promising. Consider my interest renewed!
Of course! Donāt you just love it when someone you loathe is talking 24/7 inside your head?
Weāll just have to suffer together till our mind is free of Tick lol
Hell yes (I was very pleasantly surprised by the option to initiate a later crush on Rosy based on how they treat you in Chapter 6, extremely for an ace K route).
How do we do this?? Iāve been playing chapter 4 over and over again and Iām honestly at a loss.