Haven’t read in awhile but your probably right about that one still jazzy still had them out in the open though trying to have them out of mcs view the other points still stand though they don’t wanna remember the hard times only the good.
Love talking about jazzy i think people push her and only talk about the other members more but i get it sense she’s on leave for her family especially sense jazzy was close to seven though unlike mc.
Mc being selfish in the past because of parents is 100 percent a possibility but until we get more context on their homelife, how they grew up with seven etc I’m willing to wait and see it’s better then saying “they have no empathy” because everybody deals with things different mcs responses probably reflect how non-existent people around them were emotionally and physically it’s a trauma response them being clingy towards the band is proof of it.
I think it’s more of seven and Mc this time usually it’s just people raining on seven but understanding why mc thought the way they did and have shown so far in that pov (i haven’t read this) makes people puzzled because it’s not what they were expecting mc in the past is different then mc in the present a bit in their thoughts we don’t know yet what past mc was going through so it’s odd to see one with such a different opinion then what we thought we were told by present mc. Mc in the past could have only been focusing on keeping the band as a whole together why their different mindset from past mc doesn’t add up but that’s how they grow in this story by acknowledging the past and moving forward.
Past mc literally was selfish lets just throw that out there that’s been established that does not mean present mc has to be that way for everybody throwing mc under the bus “YOU” are going to choose later how your mc reacts to this information most likely when they realize it
Yep. Been there done that. Pretending all is ‘fine’ and avoiding each other.
A network may have very similar issues trying to get much. Especially as its world wide. If more anonymous, sure. We definitely express things with certain people. Not out front in face. Being considered the ‘bad’ one isn’t in each others cup of tea. That’s normal, outside of laws anyway.
To be fair, she’s heavily pregnant at this point. She might have just gotten done taking out those photos when we got there, or maybe pregnancy brain took over and she forgot to put them away.
I do think her putting them away in the first place is emblematic of how the whole band tiptoe around the Seven situation rather than dealing with it like adults. But the MC didn’t do anything for years, either. So now they’re in an unhealthy situation that has to end eventually
This keeps getting pushed to the side in favour of castigating the PC. The band wasn’t just Seven’s idea, they were Seven’s pre existing friends. MC got pulled into it all by Seven when it was already set up (by Seven) and an established (by Seven) friend group. So they knew (or should have) how Seven would react, and probably knew Seven would take it out on whoever s/he felt closest to, which they were likely very aware would not be any of them. Whatever the PC’s reaction or lack of reaction, Seven’s friends made the decision to tank their friendship, PC/Seven’s relationship and potentially (though it didn’t happen) their band with a vote they didn’t think the two people who’d likely be most affected by it needed to know about.
(Or, if as someone upthread indicated Seven knew more than they let on, that whole “let’s test the relationship” nonsense that’s designed to make the person unknowingly being “tested” fail, backfired and in response to that blowing up in Seven’s face s/he decided to take it out on PC. I’m not on patreon, so I just have to wait for Chapter 4 to see if I get that kind of read on it too.)
Let me see if I can clarify what I’m saying. You’re correct in that it’s all simply speculation as to the “why” if the MC is self-absorbed. I think the MC should naturally have tendencies of self-absorbed behavior considering their self-absorbed parents and how they were raised. The problem is that aside from what a few perceive to be self-absorbed behavior during the sneak peek, as of now, naturally we don’t see those traits displayed. If we had, the same people currently saying the MC is self-absorbed would’ve said this a long time ago. In fact, Seven was the one viewed as being self-absorbed. We could once again speculate that the MC changed once Seven left, but the ways in which the MC changed are the player’s choice. It’s not set in stone.
To keep it vague, because I remember you saying that you didn’t read the sneak peek, but they’re not simply thinking of themselves or their own feelings, and I’ll leave it at that. You still may not view it in the same manner as me once you do read it, and that’s completely fine. I’m not trying to change anyone’s opinion but simply understand an opposing perspective to my own and theorize.
The deliberate vagueness skews the conversation on my end. The MC, at that moment, can’t have that conversation, and I’ll leave it at that.
I view Jazzy the same way I view Devyn, a background character. They don’t seem like they have their own thoughts, and I would say that Rowan and Iris overshadow them.
Castigating the pc? Okay i was giving my thoughts on jazzy I’m not sure what this response has to do with that I’m aware the band wasn’t only mcs idea but i was talking about jazzy here so I’m confused why the long paragraph of something most everybody knows about the band already.
I’m sorry if I’m writing your response off but generally this has nothing to do with the topic of jazzy which i was answering somebody elses question on.
And yes we will wait for chapter 4 to know more fun times woooo
Now as for me i don’t blame anybody in this story i think the last time i did was my blake winter hate train of G reign in like 2023 but i got over it once i knew it was 100 percent a possibility that Somebody was rigging something and G clearly knew them so stuff didn’t add up.
As you can tell I’m the biggest Blake,seven, G, Sebastian, august, dakota mancer now i romance everybody at once or fight everybody at once nobody gets special treatment besides august or ori when i feel like I’m playing mean that playthrough.
As much as Sebastian can lovebomb mc and bore me when i wanna feel pain i do appreciate him and like him as an Ro.
Everybody’s opinions are valid here except the wild takes that make no sense i think you know who I’m talking about i dislike when people fuel this section this negative that i actually have to say something wildddd
When i get around to reading the scene maybe I’ll comment and we can theorize together i quite enjoy it.
Which you are allowed to do theorize away everybody has valid opinions on scenes as they think it as long as people are respectful that i don’t have to get off my ass and clock one of you for a weird opinion such as “mc is a sociopath” because that annoyed me made me actually comment for once in like a year lmao
I agree with you on that
Maybe she was forgetful about it until it was brought to her attention that makes perfect sense but yes her ignoring the situation when it is brought up reminds me of the bands reaction to anything else iseven related jazzy is probably the band member besides august i can stand the most considering this.
Why i want to see more of her after the child is born i want her reaction when she isn’t all over the place mentally and her and mc can finally talk about the tense atmosphere.
I’m defending jazzy on that one because they definitely have more then rowans “i hate blake winter” attitude they been had sense that fight at the afterparty that’s literally rowans biggest trait right now blake breathes on them they’d throw hands bro hates blake more then i hate my ex girlfriend and that’s crazy considering my ex literally rebounded the entire neighborhood.
Not only that we haven’t gotten many thoughts from jazzy yet because she’s busy basically off screen she definitely has thoughts just haven’t been shown.
Iris and devyn are 100 percent background no question about it until more scenes with them to determine that i remember one fangirl afterparty scene and one talking about their relationship with mc etc but not much else.
That bit was about the thread in general. What gets pushed aside constantly seems to be the involvement of all the other members while being Seven’s friends first (which does make my comment about Jazzy.) That seems to get ignored here in favour of “PC is a terrible person and even worse friend and deserves all the hell that’s coming for them.” Basically, I was agreeing with you that Jazzy and the part she played in the mess that’s ongoing now, keeps getting pushed to the side in the discussion.
I honestly wouldn’t be friends with any of the bandmates besides August. They were friends with Seven for far longer, including Jazzy that voted Sev out. I would have walked away. Its impossible to have built a new band within game besides August. I severly would of done.
Maybe the thread could use a shift in topic to characters we’re enjoying? Just as a palate-cleanser?
O remains a solid rock in the middle of a shit hurricane, lol, and August has consistently been a good break from the drama at various points. Sebastian, too (especially if you’re playing an MC who is/growing disillusioned with fame or their music career in general).
I know we’re all here for the drama but it is nice to break it up now and then so we don’t burn out on it; that we have some characters who can offer that was good choice, I think. From the sound of it, Chapter 4 will have good opportunities to spend time with everyone.
You know, same? I haven’t played cooperative all the time but I have played my MC as mostly kind or considerate towards her. Imo she’s a smart, tough woman doing an ugly job.
Lmao I agree and I completely forgot about the phone number in that scene–I do the same thing for the same reason. Chef’s kiss indeed.
I feel the same! I need to do two runs with the same character, because I could see them “canonically” on either O or Seb’s romance storyline. Edit: I guess three runs, because I’m adding August to that list.
Completely agree, love both of them. Triple A is another great friend/character and I also love Cory. I’m seriously considering starting a petition to replace Peter (the crew guy) with Seb, just so he can stick around more and my MCs can spend all their filming time making heart-eyes at him.
I can’t buy that the MC is processing their own emotions here, because they seem to have no problem with the vote at this point. There is no regret in the MC’s thoughts, no wishing they had kept Seven as co-lead. It’s just “well, it’s just business, so what’s Seven’s problem?”, which comes off as extremely obtuse to me, if the MC actually knew Seven as well as we’ve been told, and cares about Seven the way we’ve been told.
The way the scene comes off to me is the MC is fine with Seven being booted–regardless of how they voted for demoting Seven to backup singer–and seems perplexed that Seven would be bothered by it, either. And that is what makes me think that either the MC is incapable of empathy or simply didn’t care about Seven all that much to begin with. However…
It would be understandable if the MC represses their emotions due to their upbringing (this, I understand, since anger was the only acceptable emotion my house growing up–crying was “weak” and you would be laughed at if you cried over anything other than a very narrow list of things). That is something that is hard to break, too, which is why I like playing a MC who shows no emotion at all.
It’s even understandable if their lack of empathy is due to their upbringing, and that’s why they’re actually questioning if Seven could be upset over the vote when anyone who knew Seven at all would know they would be upset. One would question if MC ever learned anything from Seven and Lucy, however–if exposure to people who didn’t repress their emotions and, more than that, seeing people who were empathetic and supportive might have taught the MC something about empathy and caring. But maybe not.
This is where I disagree with you. It doesn’t seem the MC is processing anything about the vote. They seem to be fine with the vote and, though they are finally questioning if Seven was upset over it, they don’t see why it would upset them. The MC is more focused on themselves. It’s like a child who acts like an ass and upsets their parents, but instead of focusing on what the parents could be feeling, all they know is that their parents are mad at them and they don’t like it. In other words, MC makes it about them instead of Seven. There’s no guilt, just, “aw crap, why is Seven mad now??” when anyone with half a brain could come up with the answer, especially the MC who knew about Seven’s dream.
I think this sums it up:
Exactly. Whether or not Seven is overly clingy and co-dependent, I don’t see how anyone can blame them for being mad that the MC was too self-absorbed and cold to even understand why they were upset in the first place. This isn’t something that requires mind-reading, either. If someone has their dream snatched away from them by the people closest to them, of course they aren’t going to be fine. But it seems, in this flashback, that all the MC cared about was themself and couldn’t be bothered to talk to Seven about it or support them in any meaningful way.
The funny part is that it’s almost a mirror of MC and the band, if the MC wants to address the issue. The band is avoiding it, while the MC has been afraid to bring it up. Withh Seven, both Seven and MC were avoiding it and pretending nothing was wrong… or, rather, Seven was trying to pretend that for MC’s sake, while MC literally didn’t give a damn until Seven was so fed up that they decided to walk away.
I still contend that–given what I’ve read–Seven did absolutely nothing wrong. This was all on the MC and the band. They suck.
I would agree if we weren’t told that MC is Seven’s bff or lover. It those conditions that make me blame the MC far more than the others. And why I think they deserve the hell that will rain down on them. Whatever way I would label the MC, they have proven to be a bad friend (to Seven) or a bad SO (on the Seven ex-SO route).
In fact, after seeing how awful the MC was, I think I’ll be playing my 7-mancer as ex-bff–in that case, at least, I could see them managing some semblance of a romantic relationship going forward. As an ex? Seven shouldn’t go back to them, for their own sake–I actually agree with Avina on that.
Yeah, I love August. They are a way better friend to MC than any of the band.
As for Jazzy, I really couldn’t care less about her. I don’t blame her for being busy and pregnant, but the constant claim that she cares followed by her blowing off the MC just shows how little she actually cares. We all rank people in our lives, whether consciously or not. For Jazzy (and really the rest of the band), MC is low on the list. Probably because they take MC for granted–which is kind of payback since they apparently did the same to Seven.
I also feel like O could be a really good friend to MC now that they aren’t in boss mode for the contest. I’m not sure if MC will be allowed to get close to O outside of the romance or not, but it would be great if we could (especially for those who will be going solo when this is all done).
And Triple A is another good friend. I love that guy.
I like Dakota the best, because they’re DTF easy and blasé about that whole reality show nonsense, plus their phone number contributes to that scene on a balcony that’s just
O I like for seeing through G’s fabricated glamour, pity that you could pitch a stage-sized tent with that pole they got up their arse.
Maya’s a good kid.
Blake’s a decent foil, but facial tattoo? Tacky. I bet he’s not even playing real heavy metal.
Trippel’s alright, but I’m envious because he’s allowed to drink himself under the table and the MC isn’t. I chose Happy Little Boozer trait for a reason, lemme use it, damn it!
i have to come clean, i’m a blake fan now unforch. i am going to have to sign off as the president of the ‘I Hate Blake’ club. their patreon content flipped me completely so it makes me wonder how many people will change up on them once we get to see more sides of them in the actual demo.
O Sebastian
I love them both so much and deadass I CANT CHOOSE BEETWEN!!!
Both of them represent something my MC needs. O is, just like you wrote, a steady rock - present, grounded and genuinely wanting what’s best for MC. He worries, understands how the showbiz world works and wants to protect MC from the worst parts of it.
On the other hand, my golden retriever Sebbbbbb… he’s from a completely different world. All he knows about the industry is what Maya has told him. But he has a soft, kind heart and doesn’t judge MC based on the band, the drama or BOBT. To my MC he’s like a breath of fresh air. Im probably the only one here but i love him (and o)
Im here for Orianna mostly. First run was with Seven. Changed her to him and that opened up to a complete never again will I swap him back to romance. Sev is better off as an x friend turn back to friend type.
August would be good too. Just. Ori is too fucking hot! I keep melting to her.
I didn’t, but I’m in agreement with writer’s vision here. While I often enjoy romances that are more toxic than 2000 Baia Mare cyanide spill (here’s hoping you will deliver, 7), I also love honest, uncomplicated, no strings fuckbuddies.
I was going to say “that’s surprising” regarding the Dakota post, but then I followed the link and so the “until things progress” bit and yeah it makes more sense, cause for a sec I thought I dreamed that one pov of theirs.
And on the topic of characters we like, outside of the more prominent cast cause that’s a lil boring, I’d have to pick Dakota too. I wasn’t onboard from day one, but idk I really like how Amy wrote them. They’re fun and interesting and fun. Hope to see more of them soon!
Oh super interesting post. It’s actually quite timely too, because since I read the sneak peek I’ve been rethinking Infamous and I’d been wondering if Amy was playing it safe in certain ways and then a day later this is posted. I can’t say I blame her though, it’s probably the most popular WIP with the most invested fanbase and once something is that popular it’s even harder to commit to things you know people won’t like, even if it’ll serve the story and the characters better.
i dislike when people fuel this section this negative that i actually have to say something wildddd
I bet he’s not even playing real heavy metal.
i am going to have to sign off as the president of the ‘I Hate Blake’ club. their patreon content flipped me completely so it makes me wonder how many people will change up on them once we get to see more sides of them in the actual demo.
