Zombie novel idea


#1

I am writing a novel (not a CoG game) and i am having a hard time thinking of ideas
There was formerly about 30 pgs (10k words) written but I have scrapped it and have started fresh and am nearly at 1k words
Premise`
The zombie apocalypse has begun out of nowhere, no warning whatsoever and the book picks off 1 year in the future and tells of bad times then goes back to the first day of the apocalypse.
Characters
Main character #1
Scott Nex,30 years
he is the biggest character and will serve as the leader of his group
Traits: great leadership skills, people skills and charm. Also not bad in a fistfight, is trained in the use of firearms
Main character #2
Jayne Payne, 31 years (I know😂)
Is shy and nice, has to big of a heart for the apocalypse… although that will change
Traits: very intelligent and serves as the backup leader for the group
Main Antagonist
Hunter Claw
A Very ruthless and evil person he runs a bad girl and will do anything to get what he wants
Traits:basically an evil version of Nex with slightly more charisma. The exception of which is being a very troubled man :worried:
Main (mostly) character #3
Ruby Garcia, 29 years
a bad mouthed, tough daddy’s boy, Ruby is very aggressive in her actions and wants nearly everything, she had a quite spoiled childhood
traits: is very tough and buff but is quite dimwitted, extensive knowledge in firearms and is quite good at killing
(headcount:37)

K guys just wanted some ideas to feed my brain and I will update the character list if some feedback is shown. All ideas, characters and feedback is appreciated.
Thanks,
Chopper


#2

Always down for thinking up ideas!

(Also, Jayne Payne is my new favorite name. :joy:)

So it sounds like your story is like in the Zombie Apocalypse but isn’t the focus of the story. (Antagonist #2: the setting!) Anyway, there’s this part of me that is just thinking of the Wild West (but like apocalypse version) and your main dude, Scott Nex could be like the “sheriff” in a way? You know keeping the peace, making sure all the citizens of the town are safe and what not, etc. Jayne Payne can be the “deputy.”

So, the big bad dude can be like someone who saw his family turn into zombies right in front of him. (That would make him seem not really big bad but more misunderstood villain?) Well, he represses all that trama and just wants to get on with his Zombie Apocalypse life and he realizes that this Scott fella is like in the way. So Hunter Claw is like, “There’s another Sheriff in town,” and breaks the main group in two.

Well that was fun! Good luck on your story!

(I’m sorry I turned it into a Zombie Apocalypse Wild West! :joy:)


#3

Thanks for the advice!
Hunter claw’s life was (inadvertedly) ruined by Scott Nex so he hates him. And yes I want it to be kinda like a more phycalogical thriller type thing. It will really focuses on the “how far is too far” aspect for people.
And I suppose it depends on your perspective if Claw is really evil kinda like negan in the walking dead I see him as kind of good


#4

My bad! :joy: I was getting on a roll with that Wild West idea. (You can always use it on your next book, lol.)

Maybe, MAYBE our good pal Hunter Claw is like a “monster in the castle.” (I think that’s the horror trope) So for the first part of the novel something is going on, besides the Zombie apocalypse of course, and everyone in the group is on edge. They do not know he is lurking around and doing somethings. Then it flashes to the past where the reader meets Hunter Claw somehow and the reader can be like: Ah!


#5

Ya I will think about the Wild West idea lol!
Ya I think the flashback scene should happen just after they lost everything (with a few subtle hints in between)


#6

I don’t know how much progress you have made on your novel, but it always feels nice to see someone working on their own creative ideas and making their dream come true. Great to see you creating your own universe.
From my own experiences, I know that it’s hard to think of a good plot, and then keep up the intensity, and then actually finish it; and there’s always an issue of the author themselves being satisfied. I know the feeling. No matter how much effort you put in your project, you’re in a constant state of vulnerability which bugs you, always reminding you that it can be better. That is natural; a little bit of self-scrutinizing actually helps to make it better. I think you are good enough to imagine your own universe, so I am not gonna dictate you on how you should proceed with your characters. I would rather say, be patient with yourself. Sometimes we are just broke, no satisfactory ideas come out of our minds. That’s something that happens to everyone. So, here’s what I do. When I am running out of ideas, I just stop. Then and there. Then, sometimes, what might span from a few days to a few months, an idea pops out of my mind, and I resume. That way, it takes time. But the end product is worth it. And when I start writing, I don’t envision what the end is gonna be. I just write and let the story take its own way. It feels more natural this way.
Now this is a zombie story, so I am assuming you are willing enough to make it gruesome, gory, and sometimes, uncomfortable for the readers, too. And I think it would be great not to tag the characters in a certain way. Everyone has a reason for becoming what they are, and nothing in this world is absolutely black or white, we all have different shades of grey within us. I hope you are willing to explore that, too. And one more thing, there should be some bends and turns in some points of the story where there should be moral dilemma, and you have to leave it for the readers to think about, those are the moments which make a lasting impression on their minds.
In my experience, the interpersonal relationships are vital cogs to any story. So, I’ll appreciate it if you are convenient with going deep into the exploration of the characters and the dynamics of the change in their relationships with each other.
Best of luck for the upcoming days. A.


#7

Wow thanks for the kind words!! i will certainly follow your advice! i have a loose outline of where i want it to go but other then that i will just let the story take me where it leads. i am very exited to get to those many moral dilemmas…
i have had to slow down with my writing for a while because of writer’s block but i have finally overcome it and will try and get as much done from now!


#8

i am thinking of doing a little poll for who the love interest should be for Scott Nex

  • Jayne Payne
  • Ruby Garcia

0 voters

Don’t count my vote it was an accident


#9

If anyone would like to help/co write PM me or just post it here


#10

If you don’t mind I can just add my two cents. Anything to do with Zombies just draws me.

Seems like Scott won’t run into any trouble at all. Which, for me, raises a question mark. He almost seems perfect. Think about it, he gets jumped while he’s unarmed, he’ll be fine. There’s a shootout with the antagonist, easy - he has actual training. He can persuade others and people will generally like him. An interesting character to follow is one that’s flawed.

I thought I should point it out because Scott doesn’t have any visible weaknesses so why would your reader even worry if something bad suddenly springs up. It leaves very little room for suspense. Imagine if Scott was actually useless without a gun. That spices things up. If he’s in on a supply run and he gets bonked on the head and gets stripped of his gun, the reader is going to sit up and think, “Oh no. He can’t defend himself without a gun. What now? THE SUSPENSE.”

I hope you catch my drift. I’ve read plenty of fiction and written a few and the most boring stories for me have lead characters that are just unstoppable. Someone shoots them, they dodge it because they were once a dancer, OR they survive because they are so strong. Someone organises a mutiny, they’ll charm the pants off everyone and defuse the situation with a winning smile. Someone has a problem, they know the answer. They make a guess, they are correct. That would put me to sleep. Like…put me in a coma for 75 years because wow that character is a drag.

Just keep that in mind. Add some variety. Flaws. Real challenges (like an alcohol addiction for example. In an apocalypse, that is dangerous.)

Happy writing buddy :sunglasses:


#11

I had the same thoughts! Scott is painfully boring.

Change just one thing about him and he becomes interesting. Some suggestions:

  • He’s terribly awkward. He’s got all the answers, but in order to get others to follow, he has to lead through example. He’s always the first one through the door, with his hands in the dirt and his legs marching on through the aches.
  • He’s charming and confident, but he has absolutely no idea how to lead people and must create a council to guide him through difficult problems. He needs an economist, a farmer, a general, a mathematician, a teacher, a counsellor, a psychologist, and a storyteller, because he can’t do any of those things individually, nonetheless all at the same time.
  • He’s old, nearing death, and needs to get everything in order quickly to leave the world a better place than he found it.
  • He’s physically frail. Ninety pounds soaked wet. Needs a wheelchair or crutches. A single punch would knock him cold. He needs to become the group’s leader purely on the merit of his decision-making skills, because he is one of the least physically imposing people on the planet.
  • He has never fired a gun in his life, and never plans to. Maybe guns are dishonourable compared to melee combat. Maybe they’re too loud and attract more attention than the bullets in the gun can deal with. Maybe he’s a pacifist and would rather eliminate threats with non-lethal traps and distractions. Maybe he’s just a terrible shot. In any case, he doesn’t even touch a gun throughout the entire story.

Actually, imagine if all of those things were true! Now that would be a zombie story that has never been written.


#12

so this is more like character creation then story idea right ?

hum…personally , I think deciding from the get go that X gonna be the leader…well…lets just say it mean you have to shove said X character in the story lol .

from what I remember , zombie stories are good cose anyone can become the ‘leader’ cose the last ‘leader’ got eaten lol .

of course you can make the story driven around 1 character . Just remember that a perfect Hero need to crash and burn , so they can grow and fly again .

also ‘evil’ character won’t stick around with prince charming and the princess . Often being evil mean they either will backstab the group , use the group or abandon the group early on .

another thing you may wanna think about , is the charm of zombie and apocalypse is seeing ‘normal’ peoples survive the odd while burying alot of others peoples along the way lol .

For exemple , I change Ruby garcia to a mechanic who can fix anything .

and I change Hunter claw to a Youtuber who always believed there will be a zombie apocalypse , so he is your big nerd with the big inventory and know it all attitude . But when come to shove…he be the first to run away and abandon the group .

Jayne Payne can be a nurse , though she has limited medecine knowledge which can be expanded further in the story for survival .

as for your hero , how about a bouncer ?


#13

@will @The_Division
Thanks so much for your suggestions! You guys are definetely right. It was a while ago when I posted this and I had just began writing so I kinda didn’t know anything going in, so I made him perfect but I scrapped and am rewriting and Scott is a lot weaker now. He is not the smartest guy around ( pretty dumb) and he always makes enemies. (Like claw). He is also kind of a klutz. He’s also not as good a fist fighter. Thanks so much!
@E_RedMark
Thanks for those character suggestions! I think I am too far into writing to do a backflip on the characters but I think the YouTuber one could be really interesting so I think that I will bring in another character that is a YouTuber thanks for the idea!


#14

Id like to ask then, have you considered flaws? It looks like you have a solid plan, at least in basics, but the most important part of a character to me is their flaws. They need to seem human, especially in an apocalypse novel.


#15

I really like the line they need to be human and I have slowly added flaws like some of them get shot up and significantly weakened and several die making the others darker and lets just say the community is not in a good place right now.


#16

Hey Chopper how’s the writing going now? Any new ideas? Characters? Super intense plot? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:


#17

The writing has been going well! I usually write 200-700 words a day and I’m on page 20! The plot has been tense as the characters still don’t trust each other enough and especially don’t trust others and on top of that Claw was recently introduced when he attacked one of their trucks and killed all but one of the people inside so he could send a message. I’ve also changed it so it goes several months after the apocalypse and they barely even have a community it’s just like 5 of them in a fenced off wood shop just outside of town. That’s about where I’m at right now, thanks so much for asking!


#18

That’s impressive. Do NOT stop!


#19

Thanks! Encouragement is always a boost for me!