@ChimeraLord It´s because @JimD want do all realistic so did a bank account right or accurate help make more beliable the story.
Thanks @MaraJade. @ChimeraLord its just my recommendation to enhance the realism of the Soldier class in the game. By the way @JimD Fort Carson actually works pretty well of all the variety of Soldiers you have so far, even special forces. 10th Special Forces Group is based there. As a bonus their primary area of operation is US Africa Command, so they would be intimately familiar with a viral epidemic there.
Hey, @JimD. Normally I tend to lurk on here, but I loved Zombie Exodus so I wanted to help with the sequel if I could. I’m just getting started now, but a couple things jumped out at me.
First of all, I noticed when you make the first choice in the game - how to deal with the dead squirrel - the decision affects your Moral/Corrupt meter. If you decide to clean up the squirrel yourself, you get Corrupt points, which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. I’m guessing Moral/Corrupt affects how comfortable you are with death and killing, which works, but if that’s going to cover already-dead animals I’m not sure that’s the best thing to call it. Admittedly I’m having trouble thinking of alternatives… Sensitive/Jaded, maybe? Not sure, something you might think about.
Also, about the Dependent Child drawback. I’m not sure what you’re planning to do with the kid storywise, so this might be more trouble than it’s worth, but it would be nice if the player could customize that relationship more. Aunt/uncle makes for a good default, but I’d like to be able to change that, so you could play the game through with a child of your own, or a younger sibling if you’re playing a Teenager. If nothing else, I’d like to be able to decide whether my character has a nephew or niece.
Just a couple thoughts after my first run. I’ll try to make more suggestions when I have the time, though unfortunately I’m not sure when that’ll happen. Thanks for all the hard work - Zombie Exodus was amazing and it looks like ZE:SH is unliving up to that standard.
Don’t worry it’s not undead in the water either.
@JimD I don’t deny that zombies are popular. I just don’t understand why they’re so popular. I mean, the way some people talk about them they actually believe they could possibly exist in reality as they do in entertainment media. But they’re all an invention of entertainment media. Zombies as they exist today were created by the imagination of George A. Romero (who didn’t even call them zombies). They have very little in common with the actual originator of the term “zombie” which is voodoo mythology.
As gritty and serious as modern zombie media seems to want to be, the fact of the matter is that it never really tries to be anything more than fantasy. Why do so many people fantasize about something so disturbing?
@Foelhe JimD has already decided that the child will be male for story reasons so he doesn’t have to waste so much time writing for a boy and girl as I remember him saying. As for the teenager having a nephew, that isn’t so weird. My sister is 13 years older then me and my nephew is 7 years younger then me. Heck, I have a great nephew now(and another baby is on the way) and I’m only 29!
@Shoelip I can only imagine that people are either bored or want a challenge of survival… or both. I suppose there could be doing what you want, too, since law enforcement supposedly is non-exsistant during a zombie apocalypse.
In real life we might think we would be zombie slaying badasses but we would freaking out worse than a stoner on a acid trip
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@Shoelip true… Unless you count ophiocordyceps unilateralis. I don’t but still. Or rabies or mad cow disease. However I do not count those either, given that even if we somehow had an epidemic to the scale they out numberd humans and I have no idea how that,could happen. They wouldn’t meet to be killed with headshots and would all die in a few weeks anyway. Don’t get me wrong though I love the modern zombie it adds a new obstacle in any setting it is placed, and to be honest @cascat07 has a point
@Havenstone thanks for the mod back-up.
@cascat07 thanks for the suggestions. I am updating the game based on this feedback and will have it implemented in the next version. My military consultant hasn’t had much time, and my research only goes so far. I appreciate any other advice you may have.
@Foelhe thanks for your support. I admit–morality stats are a problem for me and I plan to work on this prior to finishing Chapter 1. I actually like Insensitive or Jaded. I’ll have to think about it.
On the dependent child issue: having your own child or a sibling changes a lot of the context and adds in a degree of coding I feel will be detrimental. With the dependent child, my objectives are to have a distinct personality of the NPC child, give you a firm connection to the child, and make him dependent on you but not helpless. Adding more complexity could really hamper my ability to add in this challenge. In ZE, I had so many variables to track going into the last chapters that it was overwhelming. So, in ZE, much of the customization is either/or instead of shades of gray.
@Shoelip There several reasons, and I am sure googling the topic will uncover better arguments from smarter people than me, but here is my take:
- People are bloodthirsty and want to kill things but not feel bad about it. Killing a human is bad; killing a zombie is necessary. Zombies are an easy, disposable target, are human-like, and are not something to feel guilty about killing.
- They touch on the edge of possibility. They are fantasy but maybe they could happen? No, of course not. No rational person would think zombies could exist. But maybe they could. I think people play that game – they don’t really think a zombie outbreak could occur, but have a nagging feeling it could happen. We don’t believe in them like ghosts or aliens.
- People enjoy gruesome and shocking enemies. Vampires can be sexy, werewolves are savage, but zombies are just gross.
- They feed into the Apocalyptic setting, which is popular for its own reasons.
Data from ZE show most people make the moral/humane choices in the game but enjoy killing zombies. I’m sure there are lots of possible reasons for this but I always find the data intriguing and somewhat telling.
Ja-ja-jaded
Well just a quick video to show you how ‘The Last of us’ could possibly happen…
As for ZE, I think it handles the Zombie genre pretty well - Wait, I take it back IT COMPLETELY OWNS IT.
The problem with relating orpiocordyceps unilateralis which I mentioned early BTW. With the modern zombie is that it does not display the aggressive behavior associated with said zombie
Will the child be like clementine and help you out
@817819 that Is true, but considering how it would have evolved to infect humans, it is possible that it’s symptoms may have changed as well through said evolution. Of course,provided the army didn’t botch things as badly as they did in WWZ, it is also possible that they would just put down any infected and found anyone not yet showing symptoms with a test like they use in The last of us to identify infected. Of course, if the military is caught unawares and the majority of soldiers inhale spores, then we are in a very deep pile of shit. With all the spores being released, anyone without a gas mask is infected if they leave government safe zones, assuming they exist.
Just get a shovel and dig yourself out of the pile>problem solved