Thank you for all the feedback, everyone. I am in a rush to get to family for the holidays, but I think I was able to fix the issue with the fight with the Forest Rats. Please try it out. I will fix the other issues this week.
I appreciate everyone testing this version, and happy holidays.
Thank you for all the hard work you’ve put in and Happy Holidays Jim.
No worries Jim,
Seems the issue has been fixed - instead of the player group getting wiped, it’s the Forest Rats who get wiped. I’m a bit surprised that none of them survive though, it’s a complete massacre with no peaceful resolution/surrender. Until now there’s been a choice to resolve most situations peacefully (like at the Museum for example, even after fighting starts). And I guess we just leave the bodies there and take off? Can’t help but think back to the bodies we find at the hill in Part II.
Also would be kind of funny if you could try negotiating with Ray in the middle of the firefight haha. One oversight though - Ray is repeatedly referred to as male even though I was playing a female character. He’s referred to as male in the next part as well (university campus).
The chapter still ends right after the fight. I guess the meeting with the River Dogs isn’t in the demo yet?
So far it’s
Is that everything that’s planned for Part IV? No Silverthorne, New Army, Vanguard, and Safe Havens storyline updates? So far the chase/secret cache and university parts seem to make up most of the demo. Am I missing a chunk of the demo?
Btw I’m playing on an iPhone using the standalone game app, maybe some issues only show up in certain versions of the game (for the base game I mean, not demo of course).
Anyway, take it easy and thank you again for everything so far. Merry Christmas and happy holidays!
@JimD pls pls pls can a female mc have a preegnancy story? At least w one character like jaime? Its only fair to show both perspectives! Also itd be a huge selling point to me. Ive bought every upgrade, and i will for this! Pretty please!?! 
Unsure if I’ve asked this before or possibly someone else but is there any chance of more choices relating to the faith of your character? We get glimpses of it, but never more emphasis past prayer with a rando (And Church but he dead)
Just played part 1 again, was wondering whether Woody’s allergy will ever come up again in the future, cause it seems to be abandoned
Also, in part 4/5, if we ever enterred Safe Haven Lancelot again, can we request robot Sam for our salary if we tricked it into hiring our MC? (Imma assume 1$ salary is per hour… that is low as hell lol)
I’d be all for that, and I would totally pay for it too. Also, adding the female MC and other female characters taking birth control would be realistic, along with male contraception as well. Perhaps even have the option for the dependent child to be the MC’s child and allow a choice of gender too. Things like this take time, and once the game is fully developed to its peak, these additions would be cherries on top of an already made cake.
I would also really love a pregnancy path for female mcs. Maybe even as one of the drawback choices in the beginning. You can pick to start off pregnant maybe from an unknown father or smth pre apocalypse, so early we don’t even know until later in, and the drawbacks is you need to find vitamins and that you get nausea and have to eat more, etc. Maybe it impacts your relationship building with the others too. The alternate of having one later on accidentally with your partner would be equally cool of course.
Sorry it took so long to reply. The holidays were quite demanding, but I’m going to try to be better about monitoring this thread.
That’s correct for now. I will be putting out the rest of the chapter this month.
No, definitely not the end of Part 4. Everything you just mentioned will be included: Silverthorne, New Army, Vanguard, and Safe Havens storyline updates.
However, I am going to do my best to hand this in at the end of April. I’m already planning to do another update, called Part 4-2, before I start Part 5. This will be a free update to the app/game to include all of those things people have been requesting that affect the entire game.
I can look into this. There are so many religions that it’s hard to be inclusive. For one of my other games, Out for Blood, we went with the Abrahamic religions and it was already quite a bit of effort. I feel like I would glaze over things but if it’s simply to give a ccustomization to your character, I caan add it.
As I mentioned in the other thread, it’s a possibility 
This fell off my radar, but I will make sure this gets addressed.
Well, Sam wouldn’t be paying the salary. I guess you could ask him to figure out how to cut you a check.
No worries, I just happened to be playing the game heavily during the holidays. Thanks for getting back to us!
Really glad to hear that. I was concerned about these story arcs not appearing in the demo and about feature creep in general, but I’m glad they’ll be in the final version of the game.
I was also a bit frustrated about trying to make it to meeting with the River Dogs while repeatedly dying at the Forest Rats encounter. I got the impression from reading this thread that the meeting was already in the demo but I guess I wasn’t missing out on anything.
Looking forward to it!
Hello everybody
I hope everyone had a good holiday season.
I confess that I’m looking forward to the next demo update, I’ve been playing again and I have a question: Is it possible for our nephew to die?
I’ve been thinking about the impacts it would have on MC, would he start to have a different perception of humanity?
Another question about the nephew, when we do an “evil” route, how does the nephew feel about it? Is it possible to shape his character based on our choices and turn him into a “villain” like us?
The game is great and I look forward to the next update.
And who knows, maybe in a not so distant future… there could be a language update???
Hahahaha
You can kill the nephew at the hill battle, and get PTSD
It’s a fact.
I think I can think of a way without the MC killing him.
A zombie, a group like the Militia or even an accident depending on the choice we make.
We have the option of training the nephew, if we don’t do this he could be attacked by a zombie and end up being bitten, this could result in an exciting scene.
One question: What exactly happens when our group has low Democracy? Most of the stats in the game don’t just represent the obvious ones we imagine, so I’m curious to know if it has any other effects, especially if our MC isn’t the leader/new rising dictator lol
I noticed you can choose to take an engagement ring, tailored suit and dress and a wedding band amoung other things, can you asked your RO to marry you?
Quite possibly, although such a choice currently does not exist
We can kill our nephew?
Not being democratic, or having low diplomacy, alters different dialogue during the game. It could also affect how the group reacts in certain situations.
Yes, and that should be coming next month.
The public beta has been updated. This now includes the majority of chapter 15 where your group goes to visit the River Dogs.
I’m slowly working on all of the errors that people have been reporting.
https://cogdemos.ink/play/jimd/zombie-exodus-safe-haven-part-4-public-beta/mygame
