What is the purposes of Parker apart of moaning Be a coward and complain. I have no seen a single one quality of him. NO SINGLE ONE. Is a flat character. Is paranoid and ungrateful. Mara eaching ALL how to shooting he included She waste time and efforts. He says he doesn’t trust Mara and Jaime to bring insulin even if he is worst fighter ever.
He then COWARD HIDES AND THEN JAIME AND MYSELF ALONE I had build a shields and kill the guy with Molotovs. Then I raid and secure the building.
Is just when Mr cowards comes from hidden and give a shit helping raid HE TRIES TO BY FORCE STEAL THE INSULIN FROM MY BACKPACK.
SAYING HE DOESNT TRUST US…
SORRY WTF YOU HAVE NEVER DOING ANYTHING EXCEPT COMPLAIN… I HATE YOU DIE ALREADY
My MC brought to him the insulin, didn’t let him come 'cause was dangerous and he was in need for insulin, in fact he was very grateful for that.
Love your writings in capitals though, I laughed a lot and I enjoyed reading to your reply, really.
It is a way to empathize in character Mara feelings. Mara has teaching him shooting And like she hates him she thought well if he dies everyone happy if he probes he can defend himself everyone happy as I can use him as guard duty and send tommy to scavenge instead.
Then he is coward. Let me and Jaime to defend ourselves kill the sniper raid and then he comes and DEMAND the insulin for himself.
Mara will give insulin after give all Mom Nora to processing in inventory data and then he will receive what he needs. Mara is ruthless and all that but defend her people she wouldn’t left him without the insulin if he is a member but he has to follow the rules.
He is useless he doesn’t want learning anything or help in anything he is the example of Bioshock Parasite
Hey Mara doesn’t say him I hate you. She in fact has never talked To Panky Parker at all. No single time he is 50 relationship. lol So he voted for Mara
Given that there are now reanimated corpses trying to eat him and people trying to kill him and the fact that anyone could die I’d argue it is his best interest to learn how to defend himself. As for the MC’s responsibility to protect those who can’t protect themselves, I think that is heavily dependent on the morality and compassion of an MC, not all MC’S are interested in guiding or protecting those who are vulnerable in this world some are more than willing to push you into a hoard of zombies or put a machete into the back of your brain simply because they view you as a drain on resources or they just don’t like you. I understand what you’re saying but it doesn’t seem representative of the behavior of all MC’s just the honorable and compassionate ones.
I didn’t say that him lacking those qualities means he is useless I’m saying I think it’s in his best interest to learn these skills so he can survive independently of the protection of other people. Because, he honestly, doesn’t know if he can always count on those people to protect him.
For that to work other survivors have to be willing to act as a body guard which is fine but if they’re busy fighting a hoard of zombies and said MC is incapable of killing the 1 or 2 zombies that escaped their bodyguards attention, then said MC dies or is endangered because they didn’t take the time to learn how to defend themselves. Yes, I wholeheartedly agree there are hundreds of ways to contribute outside of being the best fighter but knowing how to fight isn’t something I think they can afford to miss or not know.
I’m not suggesting that survival of the fittest is the way to go, I’m saying anyone who finds themselves at a disadvantage early on in this situation should at least be willing to learn how to defend themselves and learn whatever it is they need too in order to survive.
Right, this point was why I mentioned that it’s possible for the MC to give combat training to the group at large. We only get to start rudimentary training during Part 2, so we can’t judge whether Parker isn’t improving in that area. I don’t think this would change much, if Parker devoted all his time to training (which would also necessitate him not following any assignment he was given by the leader). After all, if everyone could improve at the rate the MC is, the MC wouldn’t be much of a protagonist. It’s not that I don’t think Parker shouldn’t learn how to protect himself, but I don’t think it’s realistic to anticipate him to be capable of much beyond that, even with training – basic defense is probably the best expectation.
I don’t necessarily believe that this behavior is limited to honorable or compassionate MCs. Part of what I was arguing in terms of shaping the environment is that by reducing the amount of violence in an environment and thereby encouraging less violence in general, means that you are less likely to encounter violence yourself in the long run. That lessening of aggression means that the MC is safer as well. So with this in mind, I would argue that even more self-interested MCs could take this approach, particularly if that MC is interested in exploiting every last drop of usefulness one has to offer, regardless of whether that value applies to combat experience.
Of course, the argument to this is that perhaps now isn’t the time for that view. That maybe after we get to a certain amount of security is when such a theory should be implemented. And to that, I’ll clarify that I’m not arguing that this idea should be the approach, just that it’s not strictly limited to MCs who are interested in morality.
It is limited to pc interested in morality. In this moment of pure anarchy and no settlements there is no reason whatsoever to being helpful with other people that is not in your group and has no absolute means to helping you. Resources are terribly limited and no way get more give X to other literally means not have means have that resources anymore.
Parker doesnt want learn has no interest in helping their companions except Kelly then behaving like coward let their companions to die and when he dares to return insults pc and Jaime and tries to stole from us behaving like a tantrum child. A zombie is far useful than parker. Kelly at least tries. Nora gina Church etc are useful in base he could be useful too but he decided not be useful he decided be a coward moron
This presumes a zero sum game, wherein lifeboat ethics is being used – resources are scarce, so everyone must look out for their own in-groups. Spaceship Earth ethics is the argument to this – humanity is sharing space so any damage done negatively affects the whole.
The other argument I’ve given is related to IR’s liberalism theory that interlinking actors in a given system makes them less likely to do harm to one another. This metric essentially tries to bring together the picture of “spaceship” versus “lifeboat”. The reason I asserted that morality doesn’t have to tie in is because this metric doesn’t require one eschew violence because they find it repulsive. It advocates for cooperation (and leaning away from violence as a matter of course) because it lessens the possibility that harm will come to an individual. Even a manipulative, self-interested person can get behind this, it not only lessens negative outcomes but also increases the outcome of positive ones down the line.
I’ve enjoyed this discussion so far, but I think I’ll step back for a bit after this, so it won’t become too circular. Good talking with everyone.
I agree with your accessment… not every good deeds and compassionate action had to do with morality…
Sometimes , it is about a peace of mind and an attempt to calm our inner anxiety for us to help and assist others … everyone realise the future is unpredicatable , and death may come soon… some people just want to have that last moment of sanity or peace of mind in their end of days… theory said when we are breathing our last breath , memory of our past automatically recreate in our last remnant of brain activity… hence it is logical that some people, may simply help as much as they can as an attempt to earn their peace if tomorrow will be their last day on earth…
My scientist has hopes of training Parker up to be her research assistant.
And if you’re concerned at all about continuity of civilization, you’ll be needing people with experience in education to pass on humanity’s collective knowledge base so we don’t regress to loinclothes and grunt-based speech.
Well I hope not be nearby anyone of you in a apocalypse. Because I don’t like burying people.
And Parker is not intelligent. Except you considering have tons of useless data in head is being intelligent. That’s only mean one having good memory.
As Carl Sagan said better than me those cavemen looking at stars after learning make fire had same intelligence and same brainpower than any scientist. So say cave man where stupid is fake.
Then intelligence is being capable of be adaptable to control your surroundings, and improving your live conditions.
Parker can’t do that except you consider let your friends behind being moaning and coward and say the people that feeds you that you don’t trust them . Having accounts that person has a gun in hand and you have seen her killing tons of people … You don’t try steal her backpack.
Except i think Parker knows mara can’t killing him so he is so damn confident in Mara wont kill him in the spot… because hell if Mara would have kill him
My Psychopathic, Surgeon bandit Mc’s fully believes in the lifeboat ethics (and maybe my Con Artist to an extent) he could give a damn about the damage being done to humanity as a whole as long as he and his subordinates survive, everyone else is just a potential bullet sponge that’s in the way of their supplies. He actually has no respect or concern for human life. If you don’t aid in his conquest, earn your keep or he doesn’t find your existence beneficial in some way, he will not hesitate to brutalize you with a machete.
Again, I don’t see this working with a bandit or a warlord MC don’t even get me started on the Serial Killer Playthrough. I just don’t see this being incorporated into those type of playthroughs without it changing that type of playthrough in an irreparable way. Pragmatic, or self-interested MC ok I see your point but the 3 I just mentioned have violence interwoven into them how could they encourage less violence and still be who they are ? (Unless it’s a manipulation tactic ?)
To that being a manipulation tactic you have to believe that people have a future to raid or use them again. The fact 99% those people will die by zombie of raider in few days make the whole manipulation not worthwhile. Keith’s group that will make to manipulate sense as is big and with future.
Parker can be trained as a medic and he’s quick to catch on so i wouldnt call him useless. There’s a ton of quick guns and strong peoples in the apocalypse but smart peoples become a luxury
Too true. The jock types might survive the initial outbreak but eventually the nerds will be needed to balance it out in order to have the most sustainable group.
Personally I don’t think not using or having smarts is something you can afford in this situation, I think you need a healthy blend of brains and brawns(just to be on the safe side.)
Thats why you join a group. Peoples qualities and problems have to balance each others. Parker might not be a fighter but he can still save fighters lives. Its tough to expect everyone to be completely balanced.
My MC brought to him the insulin, didn’t let him come 'cause was dangerous and he was in need for insulin, in fact he was very grateful for that.