Zombie Exodus: Safe Haven General Discussion (Part 3 beta coming in December)

You get it by either killing Keith or subduing him. In order to do so in the first place, make sure you built a sky box beforehand. Choose to attack the Silverthorns and then to look for Benton in all the chaos. Sneak closer to him, and the option to kill/subdue should appear.

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I’m sending out a new newsletter tonight for those signed up at my website. I discuss the leader mechanic in ZE: Safe Haven, Part 3. Are you a leader, follower, or puppetmaster?

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What a puppet master means exactly in English? Because I think it means something different as in Spanish. In Spanish is used for any kind of leadership that uses mass manipulation and or intrigue It doesn’t need to be shadow figure with a figurehead leader.

In Spanish Hitler is a puppeteer or puppet master as control propaganda and masses and use secret police and all that.

However I think in English is only used to people that does that in secret and had a fake scarecrow leader. Like for instance If Mara used Jaime to supposed be one in charge while os her calling the shots.

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A puppetmaster is someone who works behind the scenes to control the group. You let someone else lead and you manipulate them.

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I figured that because stats. I won’t trust any of the group Leadership except My kitty that is NOWHERE :sob: TITUS MOM MISS YOU SO MUCH…

MAYBE GHOST ZOMBIE WOODY EAT IT

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Oh good, I always look forward to your newsletters because of the in depth information you reveal about upcoming projects. Also, I will most likely play your Vampire Fiction game when it comes out on another platform besides iPhone

Update: I just read the newsletter and my self-insert MC is definitely the influencer type. I definitely see myself being the behind the scenes leader so I don’t have to deal with the minute by minute leadership. Jaime’s the ā€œfaceā€ I suppose( even though I wanted Rachel to be leader :unamused:) But the group & Jaime often look for me to make decisions even though they elected him.

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I am too dominant and too passionate to be that influencer type. Then the fact Jaime is so damn lame as anything except be a teddy bear. I am the Dominatrix influencer type :wink: like using all that charisma and persuasion But i am on top …I said already that Mara nead a Bed buddie Lol all sound innuendo …

You still can make major decisions and you’re technically in a position of power because you’re making decisions that shape the group you just don’t have to deal with everyone’s problems, concerns and whining all the time . Please understand I’m not saying the influencer is for everyone, I’m just saying it offers a unique kind of leadership that seems to allow you down time while also being passionate.

Yeah I’m not happy he’s leader… which is why I would rather Rachel be leader because I think Rachel is more capable of making the tough decisions but since she isn’t I have to which is easy since Jaime’s always telling me to make them.

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Was too late with my subscription to catch this one, unfortunately. But at least I’ll be set for the next.

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I think i will be a leader , a disciple/prophet if possible … coincide with my group name ā€œNew Prophetā€ , i will try to emulate the divine route of ā€œcult leaderā€ of the original zombie exodus :slight_smile:

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You putting a smiley face emoji after you just said you wanted to be a cult leader is unsettling to me…

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Yeah… what’s wrong with that ? Gods/Goddesses love everyone … it is with a smile that Gods/Goddesses embrace all true believers , even in death one should always Rest with a smile… but the spirit could always be with us :slight_smile:

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Just read the newsletter and it really got for your passion in the group. So let’s say your the leader you will be making sure everything thing is going smoothly. Or if you an influer you make suggestions or be shadow leader. You just be a reglar group member. I think all them will have cons and pros. So if your leader the final say in every thing but you have less time to build relationships and spend with ro. I could See it being a problem for some ro like Jillian but rachel would not care . you could also not be going as many missions. But the biggest thing is you will train the grop at skills

I can only think of pros for influencer like being a shadow leader and you can also suggestions and go on the missions.

For just a member you could go on lot of mission alot and build relationships. But you would have trouble doing what you want with the group and someone else will be running the show

In part 3 I hope we get to setup a government like maybe could have a cheif of security and your mc could run against Rachel and Lopez

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I don’t have a problem with that and that wasn’t what I was talking about at all. I just don’t think you had to describe yourself as a cult leader. I mean how are you going to introduce yourself to other survivors and get them to believe you’re not crazy or trust you if you describe yourself as a cult leader. What you say and how you say it always has meaning probably even more in this scenario so I’m just saying unless you plan on playing as a crazy, evil cult leader(which would be awesome) but since that doesn’t sound like something you’d be interested in maybe just describe yourself as well intentioned prophet and not give people the idea of the former. But at the end of the day you do what you want I’m just saying it sounded creepy to me.

Why do you want to run against Rachel and Lopez in particular ?Also while I think Rachel would be a good chief of security, I think she would still want to be involved in the other aspects of the group.

Technically, anybody can train anybody in a skill so it’s not a big deal if the leader is the one who does it. Because realistically( and not boosted by 50 or 75 skill points + attributes) the leader isn’t good at everything.

Not what it means at all, members of the group have said that Jaime may have been elected but they can tell I’m the one who’s running the show or think I should be publicly. In no way shape or form would I be comfortable trusting someone to make decisions for me in this setting which is why I’m not taking the role of a regular group member.

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Pull a Villanelle from Killing Eve S2 E2 with the man. Be a puppy, lure them in and then dispatch them messily.

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No idea who that is . But Mara being a con artist is her job so that will be her strategy with Keith group that and pull him in bed i think. or his second probably both to make them hate each other

Mara is 80 charisma 6 persuasion 5 empathy so i think she can make that

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You should watch Killing Eve on Netflix then, I feel like your character is very close to Villanelle.

I don’t want to run against them in particular I just see as most likely candidates for chief of security

I finally decided to start using the crossbow and bow in ZESH and I realized that bolts and arrows are treated the same as bullets. Unrecoverable. I know that it’s probably too late to change it but it’d be a cool feature if you could recover your bolts or arrows from a bow or crossbow if you’re just fighting a small amount of zombies. Obviously if you’re fighting other survivors and you can’t recover them right away that’s different but I think recovering your bolts or arrows from dead bodies should be an option.

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I’m not sure. Even not counting situations in which you cannot cannot feasibly go collect the bolts, they’re often damaged after use. The best way to approach that would be to use RNG of some sort, and I can see why an author may want to avoid implementing a randomness factor.

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