Zombie Exodus: Safe Haven General Discussion (Part 3 beta coming in December)

One of the biggest decisions your MC has to make is who to trust - I think that one factor changes everything in a play session and will dictate whatever else happens.

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That’s true. Mara trust no one. But stillis impossible be aware of everyone all time. And I still thinking that there is a traitor in our group

What makes you think that?

Anyway about trust. I have MCs who wouldn’t recruit like half of these people if I were to roleplay it truthfully but since I don’t want to miss out on any possible content all my MCs still start part 2 with a full cast.

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A ton of empathy suggests me that lol. And the fact i still don’t know what moves Rachael group to joining with me when she had tons of weaponry and training. She is like observing all like we are a experiment and she is on a mission. My bet she had mission to checking the capacity of a civilian group of survival and the mission ends she will slaughter us and return to her destination bunker.

Jaime could sell me over because Mara doesn’t want bang him even he were only creature on planet Earth. He also seems obsessed with trying to control Mara choices when Mara gives a shit his opinions. Mara is tired of his ramblings and having to fake care Thankfully I can turn his zealous masculinity against Rachael so he let me be . Still he is as useful as is too dominant for his own good.
I am so happy without half of cast having all is exhausting and for me sci fi too much death weight. I don’t like role play that

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My bet would also be on the Silverthornes or someone unknown til now. The scenario of letting a father dig the grave for his wife and the kid and getting executioned afterwards seems unnecessary cruel to me, but that might be just my point of view. It might also be someone who had to kill his family and then killed himself. I hope we find out^^ even with a high stat in search, I did not find out a lot.
the pair in the camp Trisha and Evan I guess were killed by the Makarov son alone, he seems to have a very unhealthy, cringeworthy relationship with women, so I guess, since he did not touch Kelly, he is held at bay by his father. And since the camp is not stripped of everything useful, the father had not been around that time.
It might have been Benton too, since Keith admitted that he and Natalie wanted to go back to the camp, but Keith believed that they would not go behind his back. When capturing Benton, he says that the strange incident was a misunderstanding since Maddie reminded him of his sister, which might be true. He seems not intelligent enough to come up with a fitting cover up^^

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Sure an MC with high empathy picked up signs about her lying or hiding things (and some other survivors were suspicious of her too) but since her confession happened so late in part 2 I think we will have to wait till part 3 to see if she is still suspicious.

About Jaime I genuinely doubt he would be a traitor, but it baffles me how readily people accept his leadership, given he didn’t show exceptional competence in part 1. Tho it’s also true that there isn’t really much of a competition for him especially if we play an MC who isn’t a leader type.

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He is all talking zero competence as leader. He is incapable of taking logical choices and has a deep burden over his sanity. I think he will breakdown

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The leader voting is basically a popularity poll and Rachel forgot to pump points into her public speaking skill.

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If there’s one person I don’t trust in our group, it’s definitely gonna be Reilly for me. Too hotheaded for my taste.

It is curious because one of predominant opinions of Maraa about Rachel is her zero persuasion and overall empathy. She believes herself very seductive … Mara compares her to a rheumatic poison ivy trying to seduce a myopic tree. The scene when she unleashed her hair moving her hips and almost fire Mara stove make mara almost die via laughing.

@EarnBoogie I have Reilly covered he purrss like a kitten when he saw Mara. The fact Mara is a raider and Nora my quatermaster and he the cooker makes her the character more in love for Mara with Tommy. He obeys all Mara orders and Mom Nora says he is totally in love for Mara. So Reilly is not a problem for me

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Additional insight to other NPC’s motivations(and being able to drave them out, charisma might be enought to be able to give the option but with empathy they should get the answer), knowing how they feel instead of the mask that a NPC might present IE Rachael, also they should be able to read and judge group motivation and be able to easily be able to motivate/inspire people by telling them what they need/want to hear.

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I’m definitely looking to romance Rachel. She be playing hard to get I think. I think she’s supposed to be an option later into the story. With high empathy it was nice being able to read her behaviors and all that.

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If there is a romance i will die before even try is Woody too gross. Rachel is not my cup of tea. She is cold and slow… I am passionate and fast dying if i have to be quiet five seconds. So Mara overall compatibility with Rachel is -14. Also her pathetic aura of "I am so ashamed of my working now is my chance to redeem my self… eternal whining ramble

Mara is :sleeping: :sleeping_bed: Do you said something Rachel the whining has make me fall asleep!

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I think the Silverthorns did it.
Not sure if it requires high search or perception or both, but while examining the graves, your character can find a coil of silvery barbed wire wrapped around a tree branch nearby. A calling card perhaps?

Plus, Keith describes killing anyone who he considers “too weak” and “floaters.” That seems to include the young, the elderly, and anyone who opposes him and/or disagrees with his psycho-Darwinist philosophy. That execution seems perfectly in-character for him and his group.

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Yeah I thought it was clear the Silverthornes were responsible for the unmarked graves. Keith literally says he and his friends rolled into a FEMA camp and killed everyone who disagreed, wasn’t “strong” enough for him, and wasn’t willing to buckle down under his feudal overlordship.

My MC still holds on to his values (it’s been a week, Keith must’ve been a sociopath already to go psycho so fast) so it’s an immediate antagonistic relationship lol.

Question: if we don’t romance someone right away in Parts 1 and 2 will there be on ramps in Part 3? For RP purposes I was playing my MC as too focused on living another day to so much romancing lol

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Then mara must have a higher empathy than rachel :sweat_smile: isn’t it one of kitty unintentional charm. :laughing: That poison ivy analogy cracks me up.

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I am writing right now the scene when she comes to say hi and give stuff. The scene variations with @JimD are great evwn if I try to maintain same dialogue more or less and her gestures. That give a bizarre experience as is the dialogue but pierce with Mara opinions about Rachel. Super funny to write and i am bursting in laughter . I will put a spoiler sneak pick to people who wants to read the fan fic when i ended it for the rest just skip message…

“I thought Vince would be back by now, or at least made contact. I fear that he is done forever. If the virus isn’t controlled you know perfectly what it means our way of life will never be the same again. To survive, we’ll need to rely upon others. Vince has always spoken highly of you. It’s time for us to plan for the future.”

“He spoke highly of me?” Seriously

"He always said you’re a person who lives by her own rules. We discussed your profession from time to time, with no judgment. Given your set of skills, you might be someone good to know in the struggles ahead, and likewise, I’ll be able to help you as well.

So let me bluntly sincere. You know I am a criminal. A con artist and have spied me from the Vince home this late two days. Probably watching me kill several people in process. And you are chill trying fornicate with my stove…

And you really think I will shallow the lie that you are a funerary salesperson. Darling. You only sale the bullet when you killing your contracts. Cia FBI M6 I don’t care. One has to do whatever is needed to survive. But going to point. And don’t insult my intelligence.

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Guys there all this talk about going to war with the Silverthornes. But loom at the main 4 and how trained they are. Keith is a 0311/Rifleman he knows how to clear rooms, basic hand to hand because he did mcmap, sutup ambushes and he knoes how to respond to themI was in security forces after 2 years I want to regular battalion I could choose the mos I wanted to do
I was a 0311 but enough me about back to these jerks.
Wyatt is a 0351 my in experience they are big and strong same with wyatt. He knows basic rifle skills since every marine is a Rifleman but he knows how to handle machine guns I only know a little bit about this mos. But Benton skill scare the crap out of me he can basically so some of the Keith does but he can use explosives. I imagine jimd would give Benton high science skil so he most likely know how to make bombs and grenades. So I make sure I capture him in most my saves so I can use him against the Silverthornes. so if you do go to war with the Silverthornes don’t expect it to be easy whether you conventional Warfare or unconventional warfare it will be hard but then agin we do have rachel,Jamie,Lopez,Madison,Brody Tommy,Ginia. Most of the time mc. But they probably have more people who can fight than just them.

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Looking forward to read the next Part. Do not forget me when you finish it

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Lol you are my tester. I am near 13,000 and i am in Easter holidays since today so I will end first part and i will show you and Jim Then in base his and yours opinion I will make it public. For people read Mara perspective of first part and if people like it and hear opinions starting part two that will have more choices to missions to choose.
So far first part i think will be without a doubt about 20,000 or more Far i was expecting.

Still having to read Jom text so carefully makes me appreciate more his working and his prose in so many descriptions we normally skip replaying. Like Rachel obsession with moving hips over my stove like banging kitchen

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