Some can be thrown! Throwing knives would be a dream come true.
Yeah, thatâd be wicked, but thatâd be a hard skill to apply to any one profession⌠unless it was a custom one, maybe?
@JimD Hey, Jim, this is more of a request, but you should definitely have a movie starâs PC romance ask the PC to act as one of the roles they played in a film! Honestly, I love the idea of a character constantly being recognized. I figure thatâs probably a blessing and a curse, but it also opens up for some humorous moments.
If it can be thrown, I think it would fall under the âranged weaponsâ skill.
If you use it like intended, for slashing and stabbing, then yeah, itâs a close-combat weapon. If you decide to throw it like a Javelin, then it would become a ranged weapon, at least from my point of view.
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I agree with @StarshinaSokolov Maybe have the effectiveness of a choice correlate directly with the skill. Itâd probably take a whole lot more coding if we started adding in âMid-Rangeâ melee weapons and âthrownâ weapons and keep getting more and more specific. Say you had a spear and you use it for close combat just have a melee skill check and if you choose to throw it then a ranged skill check. Otherwise @JimD would spend centuries coding
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Of course the skills involved in throwing a spear, shooting a bow, and firing a gun are completely differentâŚ
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As well as the skills needed to use boats, helicopters, and airplanes, but they are also all lumped together in the âdrivingâ skill. Just imagine all the codding necessary to create all of the skills the protagonist may use.
For sake of simplicity, letâs define the actions in broader terms, and deal with them accordingly. The weapon leaves your hands and only then hits the target? Ranged. The weapon continues in your possession during the attack? Close-combat. Itâs a machine that transports you from one place to the other? Driving.
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To code each and every different actionâŚ
The nightmares⌠And an extremely large amount of time. I understand the relevance of keeping the game realistic, but itâs a very large game already with much more to come. Coding each and every action would result in an overall âbetterâ game or at leasts more realistic, but thatâd take an extremely large amount of time of coding for @JimD to do by himself (I assume he codes it himself or has a partner or two to help)
@StarshinaSokolov @Shoelip
Maybe rather than making extra stats or oversimplifying things we have items/weapons affect their effectiveness in melee and ranged. For example you have a loaded gun so it does perfectly fine when shooting it, but then you run out of ammo. You decide to use it as a glorified club, but since itâs not meant to be used that way it gives the melee skill a -5 and you originally have a melee skill of 55, but since youâre using an improper weapon itâs reduced to 50 for that skill check or however the skill checks are measured due to that item not being made for melee purposes. Same with say a bow. Use it for ranged no penalty, but use it as a melee weapon and since its definitely not melee suited -10 or -15 to melee skill for that skill check. Maybe the bow will break too for not properly using it. Or something like this.
As for driving⌠Welp.
@JimD what do you think?
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I actually hadnât thought about using guns in melee, but I can clearly see the protagonist running out of ammo in the middle of a combat situation, and doing whatever they can to keep themselves alive, including bashing their weapons against their enemies. However, if that was the case, I was thinking about the weapon breaking, and you having to craft it back into working condition, rather than just taking a few skill points away for the check.
But I honestly canât see melee weapons working very effectively against zombies. Humans? Definitely. But zombies? Not so much. Maybe a knife or sledgehammer for âdouble tappingâ them without wasting ammunitionâŚBladed weapons would get stuck in the skull, or simply break upon impact. Any blunt weapon short of a sledgehammer wouldnât cause enough damage to the brain for the zombie to be disabled.
It would be so funny if the protagonist were to pick a Katana and go all ninja on the zombies, just for the fragile blade to break in half after hitting a single skull, which is one of the strongest parts of our body. The Cavalry Sword would perform better, but still become unusable after a few kills. If the protagonist is a badass that knows Silat or Systema, I can see them using a knife to quickly sever the zombieâs nerves, causing them to become immobile, and, as such, inoffensive.
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The skill penalty I meant for using weapons that arenât made for those specific choices. A gun as a glorified club. Or throwing a pillow at a zombie (just cause desperationâŚ) An item breaking and having to be repaired is different. I imagine the item being completely unusable at that point or granting an even greater skill penalty (A broken stick at least gives a bit more range than fists⌠Not by much though.)
I understood, but I donât think that actively using a firearm as a melee weapon should be an option. Rather, it could be a consequence of choosing poorly, as in trying to deal with 20 zombies when your gun only holds 8 rounds.
âAs you fire at the zombies, your weapon becomes empty. In a desperate attempt to keep them away, you bash one of them in the face with your rifleâs stock. You hear a cracking noise, but isnât quite sure if it came from the gun or the zombie. You decide to worry about it later, because now, running for your live is all that matters.â
Rather than.
âYou see a group of 5 zombies. You can either: Fire at them with your rifle, stab them with your knife, bash them with your rifleâs stock, or run.â But, wellâŚIâm sure some people would still choose the bashing LOL
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@StarshinaSokolov in that case, EVERYTHING is a melee weapon to my MC, watch out independent child.
@Lithophene I support that idea, it will make some pretty hilarious scenes of banter between the two and thatâs what romance is about half the time, banter. Just makes me worry for their intimate scenes becoming too funny to take seriously 
@StarshinaSokolov @Nathan_Faxon
If Iâm desperate enough ill start beating down zombies with a Wiffle ball bat. Iâm not saying using any of these improvised weapons would work. Iâm just saying if Iâm desperate enough⌠Welp.
I agree with improvised weaponry having less check points, I just donât agree with having an option to use a perfectly functional, fully-loaded firearm as a melee weapon, unless itâs part of a scene where the weapon jams or runs out of ammo, making it the gameâs last-ditch attempt to prevent the player from screwing up and dying.
And, if using a gun as a club is an option, doesnât only make the player receive less points for the check, but also make the weapon breakâŚMaybe thatâll teach the player how to properly use their equipment LOL
@StarshinaSokolov Oh no I perfectly agree using a fully loaded gun as a club is a terrible idea! I just meant as a last ditch effort of desperation. Iâm not that cheap as to try to save bullets by beating down zombies (ineffectively) with a loaded gun. At least not yet. Letâs just hope no one descends into the depravity of attempting to beat a zombie down with liquid cleaner.
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I just noticed this but there is an inconsistency in the story.
When you call your neighbour, Billie, you can talk to him about letting in Lyle & Jillian.
But after that, if you ask him if he is home alone, he asks you the same question. And you respond with âIâm home alone.â which is⌠not correct at all since Lyle & Jillian are there.
Jillian: Well weâre out of ammunition and all our melee weapons are behind that group of zombies, now what?!
Me: Not all our weapons. stares determinately at box of vinyl records
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Jillian: âPurple Rainâ?
Protagonist: No.
Jillian: âSign oâ the Timesâ?
Protagonist: Definitely not!
Jillian: The âBatmanâ soundtrack?
Protagonist throws LP at zombie
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How about attaching bayonets to some ranged weapons? It could workâŚ
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A quick topic search shows that Jim plans to add bayonets via craftingâŚAaaaand he said it directly to you. You asked if the Springfield came with a scope and a bayonet, and he said that no, it doesnât, but you can create it later with crafting.
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