If i am not mistaken, relationship of 50-55 is enough to choose your RO right ? Kelly , Rachel, Bailey and Gina were options for me when their relationship were around 50 ++ 
The guide posted above says for a male wanting woody as an RO, they have to have high persuasion and 75+ relationship. I’ve gotten it to 80 before the hill battle but it always significantly drops after and I can’t choose him. 
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Wow… seriously ?? Or was it Woody’s relationship was lock for certain profession ? Like Teenager cannot Romance Kelly and Gina ? 75 + seems too high , i know Brody and Jaime can both raise to 80++ but for Woody seems difficult, had you try high electronic to impress him on you like innovation and electronic during his first visit ? … after the Markarov break in, untie him immediately and agree to visit Markarov … then just walk straight to Markarov without planning, these seem to impress Woody
I’ll guess I’ll just have to replay and expirement. I don’t mind of course I love the game.
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How high is your empathy? High empathy helps with rising relationships points too.
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I agree with this sentiment… you have no idea how many times i replay just to see how to raise up relationship with Madison, Bailey , Jillian and Rachel ( and what actions will reduce relationship with them )
my latest dilemma is that even with Leadership 3, empathy 6, persuasion 4… Keith still take Kelly away after i order him to stand down , i will try one more with Leadership 4 before i am convince that Keith hates teenager…
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See that’s the only skill I remain true to. In real life I have a very hard time with empathy. Rarely do I understand how people feel or relate to them. This makes for very uncomfortable funerals let me tell you 
. Although I took some tips from a medically diagnosed sociopath I met while researching a paper for psych, that explained how to have a “mask personality” it helps lol
Maybe I’ll roleplay an level it up though. I just dislike having an empathy stat, even if it gives me more than just relatablility. Eugh, feeling bad for people/understanding them is just bleh.
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Don’t think too much of it in real life 
I hardly knows the word “empathy” before i start playing ZE: Safe Haven , one advantage for playing HG/CoG is that we got to learn new words through our reading…
We shouldn’t mind too much about how people view us in real life 
Maybe leave your members in the woods and tell kaith you’re secretly aiming at him.
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In real life I think I’m a very empathetic person. It’s another matter that normally I decide to not show it to those around me, that’s mainly bc even tho I feel bad I don’t know what to actually do or say to make them feel better (kinda like irl skills for me would be high emphathy and low persuasion). Also it makes my life hard when I see elderly people struggling with just trying to do everyday things or even seeing little kids crying and/or throwing a tantrum over little things which I know in the long term will be good for them still I feel sad if I see other people being sad. And don’t even get me into when I see physically or mentally disabled people.
But this is a game and the characters I play aren’t me so it’s complately okay to level a skill which is useful.
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That never happened in my playthroughs. Even when I attacked them they only shoot Church but didn’t managae to take anyone.
For me it always worked that I told Keith I need to think about his offer and he told me I have 24 hours to give him an answer.
Actually with Reilly going after them it’s always my group who starts it with the hostage taking.
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I will try this option if i can’t ask him to stand down again … hopefully can still resolve it without violence
Well… this is due to my persistent choice of asking him to stand down (you could try this option too) , i manage to ask him to leave quietly with my Movie Star or Pro-Wrestler MC ( Persuasion and leadership 4 ) , with Teenager MC… such diplomatic reasoning fail to convince him, the worst was that all 4 of them manage to leave (even Benton), Keith always point a gun at me before taking Kelly away … i will try to raise leadership to 4 and see whether it changes anything (my empathy 6 and persuasion 4), perhaps i should start taking other cause of action… 
That’s when the Madison vs Benton confrontation happens, right? When this happens I order my group to stand down and I assume that Keith is not stupid so he must see that the four of them are overpowered in this situation.
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Yeah… when Madison start confronting Benton…Ahhhh!!.. that’s our difference, yours is choice 1, asking our own group to stand down ( i thought it will be more dangerous to choose this option ) , so i chose option 2… ask the Silverthorne to stand down , telling them they are here as our guest …
So perhaps asking us to stand down first is better diplomatic reasoning ? Hmmm… i will try this then …
I’ve joined the dark side (code readers) it’s a blast! To help you, depend on your choice you will either need leadership higher than 45 or persuasion higher than 60. Don’t choose demand if your intimidation is low.
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Yeah…i forgot intimidation play a part too…Lol
hahaha… will try more play-through later on, this is fun… Thanks friend 
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While it is a given that spoilers will be rife in this thread, let us still try to use tags - the hint you may be seeking may not be the one being talked about at the moment …
Thanks guys.
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Or he has made a deal with the devil aka JimD
I have my (non del) teen MC named Negasonic Teenage Warhead (in case you’re wondering it’s an actual codename of a mutant in Deadpool and X Men comics) meaning he can virtually blast through every thing and is an epitome of Survivalist at game++ And so I can choose anything and not get pissed on/get a bad outcome 
but I think you can get a couple of guys hiding in woods before going to speak with Keith which makes for zero causalities
Dang, I wanted to see it and now that I have I’m really sad. Thanks Jim, you made an escort quest that I 100% care about.
Hi everyone, I would like to know if there is a way to be a teen and still chose all you skill and not having a bunch of point lost in skills you won’t use ? Thanks !
Edit: okay my bad I did not search correctly I found it
I do not for most characters (not for that one in any case). I did a playthrough with the plus plus option for a commando and it was glorious. A group ? What for ?
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