Damn what they say lol
Zont worry about it
they leaked the coven secrets
Patreon update (again!)
Alrighty, so the promised CG extra scene for CH10 is now available on patreon, and will follow the usual release schedule!
Itās about 7k extra words and features some deep and meaningful conversation and some romance content (if you know, you want that). Do we finally have another romance onramp? PERHAPS.
Just wanna shout out the anon feedback that let me know I had an indenting error causing the option to tell CG you actually like your pseudonym better as a name now not to appear! Thatās now been fixed, and thank you for the heads up. <3
This is so so amazing!! Iām not really a fan of superheros, but this is so incredibly different. I adore the body horror, trauma, and range of choices. I really hope to give Catalyst what he deserves in the future. I am so excited to see how this goes. Body horror is one of my absolute favourite things, and this game really scratches that itch! I also greatly appreciate having multiple trans characters. I stayed up until the sun rose reading. Iām utterly and completely hooked. I havenāt a single negative thing to say.
itās been a hot minute and Iāve meant to reply for a while. I appreciate the thorough feedback.
I intend to make some mild tweaks in the flashback to put heroism and villainy into slightly better context within the setting. I think it will help to have at-the-time normal people talking about parahumans.
This makes sense! Tbh the original version of the story had the flashback first, but it felt much too slow as a start, which is why there ends up being an in media res style opening.
Yeah code diving enabled is intentional. I figured if people really want to look they can. In retrospect I would have narrowed certain things down , but from the beginning I was thinking about the excitement I felt when playing Royal Affairs specifically and my characterās partners talked about them being very calm and lightly teased them for acting otherwise, and I was like. Okay, I want people to feel that feeling playing Villain Juice, too.
Thanks very much! I made a post on my blog the other day to the effect of āwriting body horror makes me kick my little feetā and uh well, yeah, every time I get to one of those sections I have a blast. The current chapter with the flashbacks was no exception.
This sounds fun to play through! Especially since two of them make the jump from normal to either side of that line!
Quickfire anon feedback round, as people ask questions sometimes and I canāt answer them through the form.
Iāll be paraphrasing, so the words stay anonymised.
How about an option where I dislike/distrust CG, but try to stay on her good side? (re the original āattitudesā to CG)
These are mostly there to set the initial relationship between you two. Even if you select that you donāt like her, you can then generally pick diplomatic/friendly options. It should mention here and there you donāt actually like her much, especially if you choose not to bury the hatchet later. But yeah, I think, overall, you should be able to play out the outwardly loyal/inwardly hostile attitude to the Coven.
[suggestions around adding to the Beth reveal/chat in general]
I might add a couple reactions to her/conversational directions in the long term, but in the short term, most likely Iāll only be adding the option to hug her. Peeling things back a bit, that conversation is very complicated in code, as thereās options depending on both the outcome of the flashback and your subsequent attitude to Beth.
Itās difficult to come up with a good cover story for Beth.
Intentional! Dime is in a bit of a corner, and the best option being gated behind a tough skill check is designed as a benefit for having high subterfuge: each stat has/will have at least a couple of these type of things.
Some of the Altruist interactions are short/the romance versions feel like I donāt get to know them as well.
Certain interaction scenes being smaller and less, I guess, consequential are also intentionally written as such. I wanted the player to be able to hang out without it feeling like they had to glue to their bestie or intended RO at every single opportunity. I made the friend/romantic versions different because I thought itād be nice to see a different side of them when friends (as in, you donāt need to romance characters to learn more about them). However, Iām considering adjusting it so that you still get the friend stuff, but with the romantic tint to it.
More Dion!
Heās keeping you at armās length on purpose. But your enthusiasm is noted.
Will Dime get to be more put together and less of a trash skeleton?
They will! Stuff relating to Dimeās general living situation and condition is coming after the next chapter (possibly 2).
After your nightmare, you canāt take up the person-who-woke-youās offer to stick around.
Intentional. Itās a little bit of preset character, but no version of Dime wants them to stay.
Can the Hounds not recognise Dimeās voice without the membrane?/Does the membrane distort Dimeās voice?
The membrane doesnāt change Dimeās voice very much (and the narrative can comment on this, with certain selections), but for the initial encounters where Dimeās out-of-costume, the context is so completely divorced from mask!Dime that nobody picks up on it. That might change later.
CG is frustrating.
Mm, little bit! Sheās supposed to be evasive and she very much has her own agenda. I do have it down in my notes to make some tweaks to CG-as-your-handler to be a little more helpful earlier on. The CG-centric update to CH10 also has an opportunity to ask her for some work help (though that is at the expense of discussing other things).
āInstinctiveā options seem weaker/are less prevalent/come across as foolish.
Iāve tried not to have it so that one or the other of instinctive/methodical just works better: itās pointless if thereās a ārightā way for Dimeās personality to be structured. This might require a review/balance pass (especially to ensure itās not very hard to push yourself towards āinstinctiveā as a whole). Sometimes an instinctive choice (rather than a skill, power, or situation-based one) just isnāt the correct thing to do, but thereās a couple instances of methodical being the same way.
Iāll admit that some of this might be the writing style? I tend towards a slightly sardonic narrator, and this sometimes includes poking fun at odd/reckless choices. (For instance, the narration going āuhhhā¦ā and questioning it when you just go and smash the recording equipment in the zone. The thing is, that actually works: the snark is a setup for a later punchline).
Still, Iām taking this into account and Iām going to try and sprinkle in more options where you can just bump your personality around.
There are earlier choices I wouldnāt have made if Iād known information thatās already available to Dime.
Sorry =/
Donāt think I can do a whole lot to alter this. Iāve tried to avoid having too much of it (such as it being made clear when you explain your motives in the first chapter that every possible answer is a lie), but I think bits of it are baked into the structure.
Will there be more use of the hidden brutal/psycho stats?
Yes >=)
They donāt especially feature in the Coven section because juggling that alongside Dimeās personal history would have been just a bit too much; my perspective was that even if Dimeās starting to lean that way, their general Coven attitude is front and centre.
Picking my reactions to CG leaving and Lullaby intervening would be neat.
Iāll consider it! I donāt want to mess up the pacing by having too many different back and forths (and in particular, if Dime gets a punishment they can already be pretty hostile to CG afterwards, so Iād like to make sure Iām not just repeating things).
CG section spoiler: Can I customise what CG calls me, such as using my nickname or still calling me Dime?
In brief, probably not. There are a lot of variables around Dimeās name and pseudonym, and Iād have to setup an entire system based on what context CG could use her name for Dime without it causing continuity errors. Basically itād just be kind of a nightmare to code.
Did I miss Gremlinkās introduction?
She has only appeared via voice so far! Her first speaking role was the end of CH9.
Can you add detail to Dimeās feelings on their parents/give specific choices about why Dime dislikes them?
Iām intentionally leaving this in headcanon territory because itās not really relevant beyond the intensity of Dimeās dislike. Beth speaks/spoke to them as a last resort, and if Dime hates them, she doesnāt even really protest when Dimeās upset about it. There might be one or two bits about the family later on, but honestly, Iām trying to keep it open ended.
Itās weird that Hypothesis doesnāt bring up if Dimeās using āParadigmā as their codename; it feels like it would fit.
Great point! Hypothesisās conversation has a surprising number of moving parts and I honestly forgot about the potential codename thing. Itās on my list to amend, just need to figure out where to put it into the text.
Thereās a subterfuge check which you can only select if your subterfuge is low?
Correct. Presuming itās the one Iām thinking of (telling Beth you were badly injured). I actually had the text displayed backwards (so the low subterfuge text displayed if your subterfuge was high, and vice versa). Basically, if you have high subterfuge, Dime realises that the cover story is inherently flawed and thereās no point in attempting a lie like that. If your subterfuge isnāt high enough, Dime thinks itās a plausible lie to attempt. Basically, having a high stat removes a bad option.
Finally, the one question Iāll include verbatim:
Do hypothesis game? If so what does he play?
I can see that sick fuck playing league the bastard
League of legends is a line even Hypothesis wouldnāt cross.
(but also. looks at Viktor)
Thanks so much for reading and all the feedback, anonymous or otherwise! I read everything, and if I didnāt respond to your specific thing itās likely cause it was too involved to give the detail it deserves and still be anonymous!
Gender? Gender.
Iāve been meaning to tweak a couple things about gender selection in DYVJ for a while, and the next update is going to put that into action. In brief, Iāve changed two things:
A) New options for ānonbinary transmascā and ānonbinary transfemā
B) Gendered terms are now selected separately from pronouns.
Yapping
The new options are to allow slightly more nuance to being nonbinary, and more specifically it lets me adjust Teddie and Bethās romantic compatibility.
So, Teddie is available for men (trans or cis), and nonbinary transmasc people. Beth is available for women (trans or cis) and nonbinaries who arenāt transmasc.
I⦠hope this covers the bases properly? Teddie is specifically only interested in men or people with a masculine identity. Beth is not interested in folks who identify male.
Unchaining gendered terms from pronouns means you can, for example, create your own pronouns and still get to select your terms. So you can be a xe/xer and get referred to as a woman rather than neutrally. Or, say, a she/her with masculine terms, if youāre funky like that. The terms and pronouns are also completely separate from your gender, so if, say, youāre a butch type who uses he/him and masculine terms, the game still registers you as compatible with Beth due to your gender.
I doubt Iām gonna get any more granular than this - I want to be inclusive and flexible of course, but the more layers of choice I include, the worse the pacing gets (and like, the less likely the distinctions are to even matter? differing gender terms and pronouns matter because they come up all the time, and gender choices have an impact based on RO compatibility and some dialogue differences, so yeah)
Screenshots!
This solves one of my hard choices at least!
Mal being domme and tying me up. Uhm. Not sure where I was going with this nowā¦
This might happen but not the way you think in about 5 or so chapter
Oh snap, we gonna be getting interrogated? Thatās my guess
Public Update (CH10, full)
This is now publicly available on COGdemos!
In addition, Iāve implented the updates to selection of gender terms, and added an extra branch of CG/Mirella to account for if Dime already has a relationship/situationship ongoing with Wil.
Just want to poke my head in and say Iām enjoying what you have so far and am eager to see where this goes.
Love the flashback to the urban exploration and the group dynamic you get with your friends before uhm⦠you know it all goes sideways. And then I love how it all goes sideways. Then reactions you can have and the feelings you can have about yourself, Beth and how it all went down. Good stuff.
I like the heart to hearts and the variation around your relationship with Control Group in the library and after the meeting. Itās good and Iām interested in seeing how this develops.
I think Wil, Kay and Teddie are suffering from trio writing. Where, at times, it feels like their little group is being treated as one person in terms of content. And it leaves me disappointed after coming away from Shauna being scared but enthusiastic, Prii having to film but protecting the group, Grant being both brave and smug, Beth taking charge but listening. Like I feel like I know about Adventure and the coven as people. And I think it feels that way because the group is being treated as one entity at present. Teddie is when the group is surly, Kay is when itās bubbly, and Wil is when the group is caring. Itās like the group is pick one, thatās who youāre getting and the others are just background noise. Meanwhile in the coven Catalyst, Lullaby and Variable are standing out on their own. And then thereās Control Group deeper moments. And in Adventure each member of the group was given a chance to shine. And so far for me these three characters have been the weakest part of the story for me.
Also the option to just keep punching Beth. Beautiful. Let my body horror rage monster let some of it out. You left me behind! I was so alone!
As to the mystery of the Zone. Interested to see where it goes. And if it gives me a chance to bash in Surpassā smug face Iām all for it.
Youāre so fucking based
that was all me
This statement applies to both of you because youāre both Good and Cool
she is not to be trusted