# Turncoat Chronicle (political fantasy) - updated 24-APR-23

**URL:** <https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/turncoat-chronicle-political-fantasy-updated-24-apr-23/40240>\
**Category:** Works In Progress\
**Tags:** nonbinary-inclusive, gender-choice, low-fantasy\
**Created:** [June 22, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/turncoat-chronicle-political-fantasy-updated-24-apr-23/40240 "2018-06-22T13:25:12Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/turncoat-chronicle-political-fantasy-updated-24-apr-23/40240/111 "2018-08-28T18:27:00Z")

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@Hazel I still think this game needs to give a compelling plot reason for overthrowing the King. If need be, the MC could get to pick from a list of justifications the way Guen’s motives are probed in @jeantown’s [Guenevere](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/guenevere-wip/1996). As the eldest child of the King, the MC is probably already the heir so the MC has less to gain by risking betraying the King. There will also need to be a compelling reason given for not immediately betraying Morun and Crow if the MC chooses to side with the King.

> [@Hazel](#):
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> But yes, Lux would likely be tolerant of the Monarch taking lovers, and when the subject of heirs comes up you’ll find that adoption is acceptable as well. I dread the heirs conversation because it will be a coding miasma… but I hope it will satisfy readers somewhat.

If adoption of heirs suffices to grant royal lineage, then there also needs to be a plausible reason given for even bothering with a wedding instead of both the MC and Morun adopting the same person as heir.

> [@Hazel](#):
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> As I mentioned in [this post](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/turncoat-chronicle-fantasy-intrigue-wip/40240/29) in the follow-up to the MC skills and personality poll, I deliberately changed two of the answers to that question to make them more unflattering. Since the answers are supposed to represent the traits in a negative light, I thought that “soft-hearted” was too flattering, or at the very least ambiguous. I was searching for a while for a negative term that could describe the trait as I conceived of it, and settle on “precious”.
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> The more I think about it, though, the usage of “precious” that I’m thinking of is pretty rare and probably archaic. I will try to come up with a substitute, but I definitely won’t be going back to “soft-hearted”. The whole idea is to emphasize the conflict between the MC and their father, and that any of these superficially virtuous traits can also have a heavy cost. I hope that makes my intentions a bit clearer.

“Precious” definitely does not work in my opinion because I suspect most people will not know what it means in this context. I suggest “[bleeding-heart](https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/bleeding-heart)” instead.

> [@No\_This\_Is\_Patrick](#):
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> The thing is there’s should be something to skip talking to to Lux after talking to the Kidia heir. I already decided to commit to the Kidia heir even before Lux and my plan was to play to a fairly good MC whos only getting rid the of the King. I don’t want to kill anyone else unless there’s no other way.  
> So far Lux is just a guard that hasn’t done anything and will probably have to die,even though they don’t deserve to, because the MC explained some of their plans to them before thinking about it, even though I was never going to pick them.

I do agree that the MC should not be forced by the game to reveal to Teven the existence of the Kidia claimant until and unless the MC rejects Morun’s path. Until the MC rejects Morun’s path, Teven should not be told anything the MC cannot afford for the King to learn. Just by telling Teven about a claimant, it increases the odds of the King learning about the claimant and worse still investigating the claimant. So the MC basically is sentencing Teven to death when it was unnecessary to reveal such information so early.

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