The Wayhaven Chronicles: Book Three (WIP -FINAL DEMO)

I just hope something causes it, rather than it being like the jump from b2 to b3 with A, where they just seemed to memory hole it. But I’m not counting on it. I get the feeling that, until the plot dictates it, M and A will just keep resetting to zero at the beginning of each book.

Ditto. I’d rather my A-mancer and M-mancer be able to go with someone else. I like your idea of someone from UA, not for the jealousy part, but to have the MC around someone who is consistently decent to them. If M really does revert back to calling Dezh a cum bucket or constantly spouting how “I don’t understand, derrrr” then she’s going to want to be around someone else for the ball, for certain. After Mason being so good in b3, it’s going to hurt like hell to go back to him being distant or dickish.

Yeah, I can’t say I really give a damn about the ball, either. I mean, who cares getting dressed up and going to a ball with A or M? M doesn’t dance (per Sera’s tumblr), so it’ll just be more of the MC having to beg them to do shit they don’t want to do and them bitching about it. With A, it’s more “angst” of them having to touch the MC and freaking out about it.

It would be fun with N or F, if I actually gave a crap about them as characters, though, lol.

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M could have a reason if something happens and they end up “needing” their memory bound again, I doubt it will be anything like this though.

Same, shame it doesn’t seem it will be an option and if it is it’ll be pretty meaningless thanks to the soul bond, UV could be some nice options for some too.

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And we probably won’t get the opportunity to ask about them taking a shot during “I Never”, either. Like N-mancers can’t question N on anything that happens.

Maybe. It’d be funny if some M-mancers went with Alima, lol. I wouldn’t have a problem with a date with someone from UA or UV meaning nothing, though. Even if Dezh and Z are stuck soulmated to Mason and Adam, respectively, they deserve a bit of fun.

As an aside, do you have any idea how hard it is to type with a 80 lb dog on you?

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Yeah, it would be a little nice if we could, specially if we can tell them off before that.

I first had to turn that into kg to even imagine lol, and I did use to have a pretty big dog and just thinking of having her on my lap for any extended period of time makes me cringe a little haha.

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I think a lot of this concept has to do with quality over quantity. Of ‘being in the moment’ instead of just waiting for moments to happen. Of doing something rather than standing on the sidelines. Of actively seeking out experiences in spite of the fear of failure (and the fear of success).

Never waiting for the perfect time to take action, because there never is a perfect time. A writer writes. A reader reads. They don’t wait for the perfect moment in order to make these things happen, because then they would never get the chance to do any writing or reading because there is always something that gets in the way. We have to create small opportunities for ourselves where we can in order to experience the richness of the moment.

It doesn’t matter which decade you’re in, they are all important. Society likes to treat the 20’s like they are some magical timespan where only the best things are allowed to happen before we’re never allowed to experience cool things ever again. This is a lie. Magical things can happen in every decade of life, particularly if we are the ones willing to seek out that magic no matter what stage in life we are in.

Love my Zennials. :hugs: I’m a Xennial, myself. I have so much sympathy for Gen Z’ers today. When I was your age, rent was only $300/month and I made $0.25 less than what the national minimum wage currently is today. Now, rent for that same apartment is $1600/month and you have to get 5 roommates in order to qualify through the application process. It’s insane and unfair. It’s definitely not your fault, and I hope things start getting better soon. We’re all being squeezed too hard right now.

I hope things improve with your parents, too. They are probably overbearing and overprotective because they care about you but it sounds like they aren’t going about it in a healthy way. Try to be patient with them while still protecting the parts of yourself you need to protect.

I hear you! Not only is it fun, it can be cathartic.

I feel the same way, quite often. I look back on all the jobs I’ve ever had, though, and realize I’ve done everything from janitorial work to driving a Zamboni. Some of my best memories have been from the lessons I’ve learned at those jobs and the friendships I’ve made along the way.

Just know that there is still time. There’s never a perfect time, but there is still time. Life isn’t over when we hit 30+. Far, far from it. I got preggers at 36 and started a whole new chapter in my life I didn’t think I was ever going to experience. Life doesn’t follow a rulebook so it’s up to us to create our own rules.

Soapbox over! Free internet hugs >> :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: <<

This is the direction it sounds like Sera wants to take things, about the blood being addictive. I was thinking that this was going to be the catalyst for Book 5, too. Actually, I thought that was going to happen in this book, with the LI getting kidnapped and having to drink from the MC to get out of it.

I really like @EvilChani 's suggestion of going the other way with it: that after getting a taste, the temptation diminishes and it makes their bond stronger because then it no longer gets in the way of the job.

From what others have been saying, this is something that will only be an option at the end of Book 7.

This is definitely a major issue with immortality, for sure! Even though immortality doesn’t sound appealing to me, I’d still want to stick by my LI for eternity if they otherwise had to suffer it out alone.

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Yep, he takes the MC to his room and shows them a family portrait and talks about what happened in his past, almost getting to the point of where he turned.

This I’m not sure about, I haven’t tried the combat route with N yet. Sounds like it’s time to try!

I do know that if you have a High Science detective, they get to discover with M that M’s pheromones directly affect the MC. At least I think this is based on the science skill.

I wish this was something any type of detective could learn about, even if M is not the LI. This would be a good thing know, overall, for the safety of the team.

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Yeah but there are certain things you can only really do in your 20s, as the older you get the more responsibility lands at your lap.

I certainly know that life isn’t just over when you reach 30 but there is so much I want to do and it just feels like I am being left behind in a way, and I really appreciate the supportive words, also as an aside my parents are a lot like how N treats the detective at the start of book 3 with how they want to make sure nothing happens to them even if it means not respective their decisions, but unlike N they’ve always had the power to dictate my actions without me being able to fight back or simply say no, with my parents I’ve always just have had to basically bow my head and say “I guess I have no other choice”.

Personally when N tried to do that to my detective I snapped back, because I don’t like that kind of behaviour, I’ve already have a lot of my life dictated and guided in the pursuit of being safe and I know from first hand experience that safety doesn’t make someone happy if it means sacrificing everything you want to do, life is inherently full of risks so to make someone you care about miserable for the sake of protecting them is just harming them while saying you love them is just the worst kind of thing you can do.

I personally feel like first there needs to be a loss of control, it puts a strain in the relationship, either because both people are scared or one of them (MC) knows they didn’t do that because they wanted to hurt them but the LI is scared they will hurt the MC and it will be that process of having to figure things out of how to move forwards with this situation they now have to face as part of their daily lives and learning to live with it.

I feel like that desire will lower as well as the addictiveness of it just over time, but I feel like in the end they will always feel a compulsion but it will no longer be something that takes control over them like it did before, it might be more like they might want to feed from MC every now and then but it will be more asking the MC to do that instead of forcibly trying to feed on MC.

Personally I think all my detectives have made the decision that no matter what happens or how it might happen they are with their respective LI as a ride or die situation, they will be with them for however long life lets them and if they can turn into a vampire or some supernatural that will let them be with them longer they will not hesitate to take them.

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Thanks for this. I don’t understand Tumblr so I have a hard time using that site.

I don’t understand how A can be Demi and still fall in love ‘at first sight’ and have naughty thoughts without feeling a deep emotional connection. I also don’t understand how they can become really connected (deep romance) without exchanging vulnerabilities and not crushing them before giving them back. Yeouch.

I guess that’s what the next 3 books are for? Learning how to exchange emotions so they can finally feel that deeper connection? Talk about a slow learner. I guess that fits the character but…yeesh.

I’m liking M’s internal conflict better; in denial but still willing to give of themselves to get something in return, even if that ‘return’ is just physical for now. At least there is physical satisfaction.

I don’t feel like the MC is getting emotional satisfaction on A’s route, which should be the foil to M’s sex: M gets fucking and A gets brainfucking. :woozy_face:

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Not necessarily but, yes, this is generally true. Doesn’t mean you can’t do that thing you wanted to do at a later date, though.

I feel like this all the time. I figure I still have 40 years of life left to enjoy so I’ll do just that in the ways that I can while trying not to stress over the ways I can’t.

I fully agree. You have a perspective on this that is full of strength and admirable to see.

This is a great point. I’m all down for seeing a loss of control. This might head too much into the non-lighthearted territory that it sounds like Sera is trying to avoid. But I’d love to see a “breaking” moment, only to come out stronger on the other side.

Yes, hehe! This is when the sexy times with biting and intimacy could happen. Wouldn’t be a danger at this point so it could be something that can be indulged in for fun’s sake.

Sounds like my MC’s, too. Kinda sucks we have to wait until the last book to ride or die with them, but that’s alright. I hope the journey up until that point is a good one.

This does make me curious as to what kind of supernatural Douglas has been turned into. Hope this is explored in Book 4.

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I mainly want to see something like this because the fortune teller in Book 2 always mentions that the coming darkness may break both of us (MC and their chosen partner), I feel like the coming darkness is whatever big bad we got a tease of at the end of book 3, but I feel like it can also be talking about the inherent difficulties of dating and love between a human and a supernatural and the MCs and their Love Interest specific situation.

I feel like there needs to be some heavy stuff to make the light stuff at the other end of it mean much more, because if we don’t feel it ourselves as we play, if it doesn’t twist our emotions then really how can we feel excited that the characters beat the bad guys, for the most part it is a sure thing that we will beat the bad guys because at the end of the day we are playing a interactive narrative and we can try until we win, so the only real place where we might see a real challenge that emotionally challenges the player is their relationship with their LI of choice.

A hero must have struggles for their happiness to feel earned else it tends to feel like things are just handed over to the character instead of them earning them or really achieving something.

Oh yeah I really can’t wait to see some M feeding sexy times :sunglasses:, but seriously I think that it would be cool to see unique stuff like that with intimacy given the unique situation the characters can find themselves in with one of them being a vampire, I imagine each of them might go about things very differently.

I am really curious and want to see more of Douglas, the kid has grown on me, because I guess I do want to guide him to be a better person, I felt really encouraged when he talked to my detective and I admitted I was afraid but that I would not stop until we found the kidnapping victims, and seeing him look at the board and find his own determination to look for them too and to not stop until they are safe made me really smile.

I want to be the person for him that I wish I had in my life, someone I can rely on to be able to find my own identity, space and purpose, the fact is that I allowed him to stay at my place in book 2 was because I know what it feels like to have parents you just want to run away from but unlike him I don’t have someone I can ask to take me in even for a night, someone who can be an actual mentor to him and not baby him but give him the ability to think for himself and to come to his own decisions, I’d definitely appreciate if he toned the hero worship a bit.

I really find it encouraging for N to comment on how you are a good role model and that you are a good mentor to Douglas, personally I chose for the Agency to convince him to work with us, specially after seeing his determination at the station I felt he was the kind of person the Agency needs to do more good.

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Madam, communication between partners is not part of this game. In fact, it’s not a part of nearly any CoG game. Sigh, I miss Arcadie’s Cyril ability to not be an emotionally stunted child.

I THINK it’s based on Supernatural Research, but don’t quote me on that.

Isn’t the research scene with N the picnic, where you can tell them you love them? That’s certainly a love scene. Or am I mixing scenes?

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Shoutout to pet batshit theories, because since I still haven’t done a B3 playthrough yet (replaying 1+2) I am really excited to see whether or not mine will be disproven!! Mine is “dead man’s blood is somehow based on Rook’s blood” which is not only very unlikely, but also I’m pretty sure it’s based on something from Supernatural.

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Dead Man’s Blood is, I shit you not, magic opium - it’s made of special poppies that only grow on Earth, around portals to the Echo World.

Supernatural’s DMB is just real-world folklore’s dead man’s blood - it’s literally the blood of a dead person. The folklore logic is that, because vampires are just human-shaped ticks who drain life force via the blood, using the blood of the dead makes them drain… non-life force, I guess? That’s why folklore says vampires get weakened by it.

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Oh, that’s mildly disappointing. I’m choosing to ignore the canon opium and instead say that my dumb theory is right, because I think “dead man’s blood (literally)” is way more dramatic. :sweat_smile:

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So, disclaimer, havent read the book yet(have read 1 and 2). But have read about some stuff that happens. And I gotta say, I think we’ve reached/on the cusp of reaching a point we should legitimately consider THIS. Lots and lots of paperwork for sure, but with some of the fuckery going on…I think it’s become warranted.

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At this point that fire arm probably gonna save more lives than the stun batons and taser.

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I actually cannot think of a single situation in B3 where a gun would’ve made things better*, except if you want to empty several clips into A, which, fair.

*this is, by far, the most realistic thing about Wayhaven

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DMB bullets would had easily took care of Murphy but nooooo, we gotta keep him alive at the end of B1.

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There are a great deal many, many, MANY ways to kill not!Murphy available to us. The reason you can’t kill not!Murphy is “because plot”, not “because no gun”.

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I’d rather knee cap a trapper then be at a constant disadvantage with with the people who’s purpose is capturing supernaturals and are actively developing tech to eliminate bravo from the equation

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