So I always have had my mc snoop on each LI in every route bc I’m nosy haha but seeing posts on here idk if it’s better not to on N’s route…
He always clams up and never talks about his past to the mc. Does he reveal anything if you choose NOT to snoop then??? Bc I’m not going to lie I find that kinda annoying.
Certain scenes I’ve found during this book you miss out on if you don’t choose a certain route- another example is that I always choose research for N and yet apparently the combat scene is apparently got an extra love scene??
There were so many great moments; when A talks about their past, date, dinners with Tina&Verda (I liked Verda one better).
A was opening up to MC and I read all these romantic moments as glimpses of how real relationship with Adam would look like ((the mentions of A smiling with dimples?? ))
I really felt like A route was on good track and then the last scene?!?
Kissing with MC absolutely doesn’t help the situation ugh.
Like, great - they admitted feelings to each other. But then pulling back immediately… A trope “we can’t be together because I’m afraid someone will use you to hurt me”.
Like, MC and A could take this slow…
I also really wished Detective would have more reactions the next day during party in MC apartment.
I have to headcanon that my detective would absolutely ignore A, wouldn’t even sit with him and leave the room
at taking alcohol shot… But here we go😬
N route wasn’t totally suprising to me.
I really expected that Nate won’t tell whole truth about his past, considering his fear what MC will think about him. But I don’t think N will hide it for too long either way.
I sense this could be a reason for more arguments between MC and Nate if dating or maybe reason to MC reluctance to dating officially .
I wasn’t exactly suprised about Love confession on N route but I really thought it will be different. I guess I wanted N to tell my MC moments after Detective does…
And it was kinda weird MC doesn’t have any thoughts about N not saying it back (my pessimistic MC wouldn’t stop over thinking it ).
Also another thing about Love - if N says it first in scene after auction MC can’t say it back?? So annoying.
At this I just ignore N overprotectiveness bc they are like with UB too.
But seeing how powerful MC becomes…
MC could literally quote Walter White “I’m not in danger Skyler. I’m the danger”
Right? This is a perfect set-up for a genius way of connecting everything together; tying everything together under one cohesive theme.
It’s things like this that make me drawn to shows like Firefly (sorry for continuing to bring this show up, it’s just written so well) because every episode has symbolism in it that connects with every single aspect presented in that episode, and the episodes themselves have symbolism that connects with the entire plot as a whole.
I love this. Clearly Murphy did something to alter the MC, Arane on the Chamber wouldn’t be so fascinated if this weren’t the case, and this kind of reveal would be amazing.
Considering you and Bobby might have dated, absolutely no. What do you think this is, Alabama?
That’s clearly referring to Bobby’s own mother, whoever Ms. Marks happens to be.
(also, I “love” how Sera claims these people are the Big Good, yet they’re the most nonchalant people possible when talking about forcibly mindwiping someone)
Right!? Taking it a step further, if we assume for a moment that a fully formed soul bond will provide some relief for the blood lust of the RO… Since I imagine the MC would be the holder of the bond as the auctioneer was with Sin. That could be the solution to vampire human relationship problems due to blood lust. The MC would have influence there. Or that’s how I picture it at any rate.
“I do at least get some caffeine before we start, right?” A bubble of hope surrounds each of my words.
She points to a nearby bench, where a Haley’s Bakery travel mug is waiting. “There is coffee for you there. The woman who made it seemed to know your preference on the taste of it.”
I blink a few times before looking back to her. “You…really bought me coffee?”
“It does seem to be the way you humans sustain your energy these days,” she replies, and I’m sure I hear a whisper of amusement in the statement.
I hope it’s more of an equal thing than the MC holding a bond over the LI. The latter seems very squicky, and like the MC is controlling them.
What I hope for is something more magical, in that the magic of the soul bond–once both the LI and the MC submit to it, so to speak, and stop fighting it tooth and nail–will cause any bloodlust to disappear.
Given how a natural soul bond is described, I’d think that fighting it would be the worst thing you could do (which, at this point, is what A, M, and kind of N are doing) because it would be like trying to move the ocean by pushing on the water. It’s just not going to work and you’ll end up getting sucked into the deep before you know what happened. So, the more they fight the forming (or formed) bond, the more miserable they’ll be and they’ll make the MC. The moment they stop fighting and accept that connection–no matter how scary and overwhelming it may be–things will snap into place and they’ll both be stronger for it.
At least, that’s how I’d write it. Making it a collar with the MC holding leash is… just wrong.
I think this is specific to bonds with annunaki - the research path points out that annunaki are particularly vulnerable to soul bonds, leading to potentially vulnerability and even death, so would presume that bonds with other supernaturals do not confer this ability.
But the type of bond we see in B3 is, indeed, extremely very top squicky. It creates such a power imbalance that any relationship with the supernatural would be automatically and irrevocably tainted.
I don’t find N’s language all that flowery. Can you describe what you mean? N doesn’t really substitute complicated words for simple ones and doesn’t seem to go out of their way to overly complicate a response (unless I’m completely glossing over some things that were pretty obvious and forgot about them). They seem to just like being thorough in their responses. Maybe this is what ‘flowery language’ means and it’s not something I’ve identified as such before?
I’m hoping for the same thing. We know M was tortured for gawd knows how long and it probably happened before, during, and after they were turned. I can imagine a Murphy-like character doing a sadistic experiment on M just to see what would happen/how much they could take. An experiment in vampire biology, if you will.
But I love the idea of the MC becoming Agency-ordered to be at M’s side at all times
This is why I didn’t feel like it was a good place for the MC to realize they were in love where it was at on N’s path. Really? In love already? The only thing you two have done is a kiss, or not, on a Ferris Wheel. I was picturing more romantic behaviors and activities before getting to these feelings. I loved the pool scene so I’m OK with it, but it probably would have been better if N had set-up something pretty darn romantic: candles, chocolate-covered strawberries and all. Since N doesn’t have a problem eating human food, this could turn into something pretty darn sensual.
N doesn’t have the constant magnetic pull that A’s route has, so declaring love so early felt…off. There was a sense of being majorly drawn to N’s presence, but it was a bit different from how it feels with A. I’m not sure I know how to explain it. Maybe it’s just because N doesn’t pull away from it.
A’s declaration of love route felt more organic, even though they had never been intimately physical other than a kiss on the wrist (which A initiated). That’s the only kiss I thought Sera was going to give us, so A’s ending actually surprised me. There’s so much emotional turmoil between these two characters that I can see how the obsession over them turns into something they feel is deeper.
M’s [almost] declaration of love was in a good spot. The MC had a mutually shared emotional experience with M and it bonded them closer. I’m redoing an M run and, by gosh, it has some really sweet moments. I’m going to be just as pissed if M goes back to treating the MC like a cumbucket ™, especially after helping M with their crystal.
If this happens, it tells me that Sera doesn’t really mean it when she writes that M is terrifyingly dangerous to those around them, and that the crystal is incredibly important in preventing any calamities. Unless there’s an overall point in back-peddling so hard, to be revealed later, but it doesn’t feel good to the reader in the meantime. Just writing angst for the sake of angst isn’t very compelling.
Hopefully, things aren’t being presented here as KISS = LOVE, because that’s not what love is. Love is more than dopamine. Love is sacrifice. Love is compromise. Love is not a victory march, it’s a cold and it’s a broken Hallelujah.
Good. I dug through the code and F talked about how awesome soul bonds were and how nauseatingly happy people were that he saw soul bonded.
Yep, which is why I’m hoping that, if there ends up really being a soul bond with the MC and LI, it’s made clear from the beginning that it’s an equal thing, not the mind control shit we saw with Sin. Can you imagine how quickly M would head for the hills if they thought for even a second that the MC might be able to control them?
I positively, absolutely, wholeheartedly LOATHE that song with every fibre of my being. Love is very damn well a victory march, despite how much Cohen wants to make it inferior to religion. Fuck that song, and fuck Cohen.
No, I don’t mean that N uses complicated words or tries to speak above the MC’s head. When speaking to a non-romanced MC, N is mostly fine–extremely judgmental with M and M-mancers, but fine, for the most part.
With the MC as their LI, it’s just… too much. Like the dialogue was pulled from a cheesy romance novel. I think it’s just preference, really. Like the Murphy lab scene in b1, with N prancing about. I didn’t find that sexy or suave, I saw it as overcompensating, like N was trying so hard to be charming that it was just offputting. And that is pretty much how N comes off to me most times, in their route. My N-mancer just ignores it and avoids flirting with him, because she finds it weird and not all that cute, either (mainly because I’m so put off by it that I can’t even RP someone that likes it).
I’d love that, too! Can you imagine how much M would bitch, though? Until they stopped playing the hot/cold shtick, anyway.
I’ll have the drinks and cookies ready when it happens. I have now resigned myself to it.
Doesn’t F tell us that the soul bond is like that with other supernaturals aswell? though they do say “usually” so there may be 50/50 bonds and they mention that the one not susceptible to it can have a tight leash so the whole weakening and death stuff may be just annunaki things.
is the quote. It makes no reference to the auctioneer’s ability to hurt Sin via it. The wording is VERY weird, but I think it means that usually one side can break the bond.
At a meta level, it explains why the Detective can choose any of the four Bravos.
[Without realising, I end up standing close beside Ava near the window. “And what happens when the soul bond is formed?”
“I think it depends on the supernatural. But from what I heard back in the Echo World, usually the one not susceptible to the soul bond magic can have a pretty tight leash over the one that is,” Farah explains through a grimace.]
So in the end it all is hearsay until the detective gets to meet a soul specialist mage/scientist or something or until we get to the point where we can say “it’s like this because that’s whats happening”
Though, if it was one sided at least on the Detective favour, then I doubt A and M would be so against a relationship and N would’ve stop their overprotectiveness after the Detective speaks up against it, unless of course it’s all way more subtle than one would expect.
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