# The War for the West \[Releasing Nov 14\]

**URL:** <https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275>\
**Category:** Works In Progress\
**Tags:** gender-choice, low-fantasy\
**Created:** [May 2, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275 "2017-05-02T21:03:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Norilinde](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/norilinde/32/14109_2.png) [@Norilinde](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Norilinde)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2791 "2019-01-25T21:02:51Z")

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> [@lexa](#):
>
> How did you get the good ending?? I tried literally EVERYTHING. Nothing broke me like this betrayal, Jenneth I actually loved you bitch istg.

> **There are so many different paths but I am going to assume you mean at the summit.**
>
> I actually do think Jenneth loves the MC. I think she is trying to save the entire world and having seen many possibly futures thanks to the resources of the Triple Chalice, in [Jenneth’s words](https://dashingdon.com/play/lucaszaper/the-war-for-the-west-/mygame/scenes/jennethEnding.txt):
> 
> ```choicescript
> *label allTheFutures
> "In all the futures I have learned of thanks to the resources of the Triple Chalice... I never saw one in which the two of us were together and it ended well for you. Or... Or for the Western Peninsula."
> 
> *fake_choice
> #"And do you trust those futures?"
> She cannot contain her emotions, and for the first time in your life, you are sure she is being completely honest with you.
> 
> "As much as I trust my love for you..." the woman says, with tears in her eyes.
> 
> *goto notSurprised
> 
> #"I must admit, that was not the reaction I was expecting from a marriage proposal."
> She cannot contain her emotions, and for the first time in your life, you are sure she is being completely honest with you.
> 
> "I hope you know I do this out of love," the woman says, with tears in her eyes.
> 
> *goto notSurprised
> 
> #"Then let it all end with a rain of fire from the cursed stars, for I will have no reason to live if you are not by my side."
> She cannot contain her emotions, and for the first time in your life, you are sure she is being completely honest with you.
> 
> "You need to live. As much as I need to die..." the woman says, with tears in her eyes.
> 
> *goto notSurprised
> 
> ```
> 
> Anyways, in answer to your question it requires either `social > 60` or an unmarried female MC can quote Jenneth pointing out there is no one left to oppose the MC after asking Jenneth to marry the MC.
> 
> EDIT: Oops. I misinterpreted what was meant by good ending… I apologize for that @lexa . I guess I was applying what I would consider to be a good ending instead of how it was defined 2 posts above which is what was being referenced. So as far as killing everyone, it helps to wear armor and have your back to the wall unless your combat skill is very high (70+). The [choices](https://dashingdon.com/play/lucaszaper/the-war-for-the-west-/mygame/scenes/threeway.txt) are different depending on whether Sartham is still alive, but Jenneth merely watches the fight unless your MC tries attacking her first. If you are only facing Daedros, doing something [“unpredictable”](https://dashingdon.com/play/lucaszaper/the-war-for-the-west-/mygame/scenes/twoway.txt) helps.

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**Author:** ![LordNanachi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/lordnanachi/32/167362_2.png) [@LordNanachi](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/LordNanachi)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2792 "2019-01-26T00:42:03Z")

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> **Summary**
>
> She is still a total bitch though.  
> My first ending was the Chalice Oracle which if you don’t know is when Jenneth betrays you kidnaps you and curses you to being trapped in a dungeon forever being tortured for the visions you continuously get during this ending

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**Author:** ![Norilinde](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/norilinde/32/14109_2.png) [@Norilinde](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Norilinde)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2793 "2019-01-26T00:51:28Z")

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> **More of my thoughts on Jenneth.**
>
> @LordNanachi I saw the other ending and [commented](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-wip-updated/26275/2276) on it back in November 2018. I had my doubts as to Jenneth when that epilogue came out, but those doubts were resolved with the Summit ending.
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> Jenneth is willing to do whatever she thinks it takes to save the world. Whether the price is the MC’s life or her life, she is willing to pay that price. I still think she loves the MC and I like her.

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**Author:** ![LordNanachi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/lordnanachi/32/167362_2.png) [@LordNanachi](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/LordNanachi)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2794 "2019-01-26T00:54:59Z")

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> **Summary**
>
> Despite my roaring hatred for her existence I do like her, I’m still going to kill her literally every chance I get though.  
> She seems like a troubled character who knows what they have to do but hates doing it. Probably because her friends are massive assholes about everything.
> 
> But from my characters standpoint her and her idiot friends got high on shrooms saw some shitty prophecy then killed my MCs most favoured and trusted advisor then tried to kill them, so my MC was having none of ANYONES shit after that.

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**Author:** ![Johannes\_Blau](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/johannes_blau/32/70969_2.png) [@Johannes\_Blau](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Johannes_Blau)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2796 "2019-01-27T17:27:39Z")

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I really like her too, though the first time I reached the inevitable betrayal I hit the kill button so fast I nearly damaged my laptop keypad. I was wondering whether it’s possible to let her keep her spymistress position, since I no longer have the murder itch, and I don’t want to let her go either(or marry her, for that matter). It might be nice to see whether my stupid trust will be rewarded or will prove to be Isildur’s bane.This text will be blurred

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**Author:** ![Zen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Zen1](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Zen1)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 1:10am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2797 "2019-01-28T01:10:16Z")

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I hate the save system😭

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**Author:** ![LordNanachi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/lordnanachi/32/167362_2.png) [@LordNanachi](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/LordNanachi)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2798 "2019-01-28T03:05:12Z")

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I love it.  
Except when it glitches.  
Which is quite a bit.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_of\_Arland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/earl_of_arland/32/63487_2.png) [@Earl\_of\_Arland](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Earl_of_Arland)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2799 "2019-01-28T16:28:00Z")

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What did i miss? Been inactive for two months…

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**Author:** ![N1GHTMAR3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/n1ghtmar3/32/142049_2.png) [@N1GHTMAR3](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/N1GHTMAR3)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2800 "2019-01-28T16:50:02Z")

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The game has main endings now.

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**Author:** ![jmar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/jmar/32/129449_2.png) [@jmar](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/jmar)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2801 "2019-01-28T18:14:49Z")

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spying on countries in the game feels pretty pointless  
also increasing the social stat is still pretty hard.

However the game is fun af and I’ve played it all the way through multiply times

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**Author:** ![Johannes\_Blau](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/johannes_blau/32/70969_2.png) [@Johannes\_Blau](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Johannes_Blau)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2802 "2019-01-28T20:57:08Z")

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Spoiler and trigger warning: I played as a fem!mc today and let her marry Noyedas, despite knowing from previous playthroughs what a mothermulcher he was and came to thoroughly regret it- unwilling impregnation? Imprisonment? And who knows what the sard else? The option to ‘go to the balcony and throw yourself from it’ was UTTERLY fitting and moving. In fact, had she already produced an heir prior to that point, I would totally have made this one of my main playthroughs. Dying in childbirth is just as fitting though and thankfully does result in the birth of an heir; I can’t wait to see what sort of beginning this little kid will have in the sequel…

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**Author:** ![Hugana](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/hugana/32/16778_2.png) [@Hugana](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Hugana)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2803 "2019-01-28T21:55:12Z")

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damn thats dark tho its fits the setting very much

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**Author:** ![Johannes\_Blau](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/johannes_blau/32/70969_2.png) [@Johannes\_Blau](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Johannes_Blau)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2804 "2019-01-29T18:44:19Z")

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When I read the part about fem!mc becoming concerned over having potentially caught a sickness, _right after_ marrying Ullus, I nearly lost my marbles. We’ve all done the Northern Fever court event, and it’s common knowledge Ullus wasn’t exactly celibate prior to his marriage. Of course the case was just pregnancy, but it made wonder whether anyone would like in future games the possibility of dying early thanks to sexually transmitted diseases. Considering this setting is kind of ideal for them.

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**Author:** ![MIGSey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/migsey/32/21225_2.png) [@MIGSey](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/MIGSey)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 5:24am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2806 "2019-01-30T05:24:58Z")

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I wouldn’t recommend asking WiP authors whether their game have been submitted to COG. It puts unnecessary pressure on them to deliver (and yes, it’s in the rules). I understand your excitement, but when @MahatmaDagon has completed this and submitted, he will inform everyone here.

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**Author:** ![jmar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/jmar/32/129449_2.png) [@jmar](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/jmar)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2807 "2019-01-30T19:03:13Z")

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In the future could we possibley adopt the child from emyria village killings? I feel like in book 2 there could be a interesting dynamic between the MC’ other kids and the adopted one

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**Author:** ![lokidemon007](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/lokidemon007/32/5596_2.png) [@lokidemon007](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/lokidemon007)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2808 "2019-01-30T22:53:31Z")

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How do we go about beating Lord Noyedas if we choose to fight him?

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**Author:** ![Arcane\_warrior](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/arcane_warrior/32/132820_2.png) [@Arcane\_warrior](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Arcane_warrior)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2809 "2019-01-30T22:58:24Z")

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Just Camp on top of the hill it always works for me cause i see no way in hell that you can ever outnumber him i have tried so many times to get more numbers than him but am always a few hundred men short i swear the guy is cheating how does he have that many troops have no idea why you only get a few hundred men when you recruit people i will change that law so military service is mandatory and if you don’t serve you die simple.

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**Author:** ![Vox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/vox/32/111844_2.png) [@Vox](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Vox)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2810 "2019-01-31T01:55:35Z")

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There are a couple ways to set yourself up to have a larger army if you’re willing to game the system. Certain choices for your father and what kind of lord he is already can get you on the right path. Don’t send troops to the King and recruit back to back. If you get a poor showing for recruitment then you can exploit the randomizer by going into your stats screen and coming back until you get a more favorable recruitment. Remember to go hunting and train/battle your troops for easy chances to raise morale. If you have any allies (specifically if you married into House Dulsen) make sure you call on them for battle. Recruit last minute as well. Either persuade the mercenaries on your side (with a lot of $$$ and a sizable army that deters deserters — also hold the leader captive? I’m not sure if this helps, but I always do it), marry the mercenary leader to get them on your side (if female), or bribe them into not joining the battle at all on Noyedas’ side. You’ll know you have enough when you get the “slaughter” option for the speech to your troops.

@lokidemon007 Pay attention to the season/weather! There are in-game clues about what moves would be strategic for each type of weather. Make the most sensible decision and play to the strengths of your army (do you have more archers? knights? militia? earlier on you should try to balance these out). If all else fails you can always just let Noyedas come to you. Those 10 days are very useful if you’re not 100% on the strength/morale of your army or your own combat skills. Hope this helps! 😌

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**Author:** ![lokidemon007](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/lokidemon007/32/5596_2.png) [@lokidemon007](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/lokidemon007)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 6:00am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2811 "2019-01-31T06:00:36Z")

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How do you know the weather?

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**Author:** ![wolf666](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/wolf666/32/98454_2.png) [@wolf666](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/wolf666)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 10:30am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2812 "2019-01-31T10:30:28Z")

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Who can we make alliances with in the game amd also who can we marry

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