# The War for the West \[Releasing Nov 14\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Works In Progress\ **Tags:** gender-choice, low-fantasy\ **Created:** [May 2, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275 "2017-05-02T21:03:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 134
**Author:** ![Mad\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/mad_man/32/93111_2.png) [@Mad\_Man](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Mad_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 5:10am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2727 "2018-12-25T05:10:49Z")
Yeah can’t argue with that, wyeneva would also be a good wife. But whenever presented with shy and the damsel in distress streotypes, my urges to _protecc_ them outweighs anything. The line that would seal the deal for me goes like _“she tries her best to hide her blushing face from you by avoiding your gaze but the moment your eyes meet you could still see her smile, more genuine and beautiful than any other”_. I dunno if this is the effect of my inner otaku self but my heart definitely has a soft spot for these gals. ---
**Author:** ![No\_This\_Is\_Patrick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/no_this_is_patrick/32/223713_2.png) [@No\_This\_Is\_Patrick](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/No_This_Is_Patrick)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 5:13am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2728 "2018-12-25T05:13:11Z")
Yeah I can understand, Danna and Petka are great as well when I married them. Wyneva just clicks with me more and the one I can’t help but always choose, plus she can talk to spirits. ---
**Author:** ![TeamCorvid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/teamcorvid/32/68799_2.png) [@TeamCorvid](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/TeamCorvid)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 6:34am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2729 "2018-12-25T06:34:02Z")
Me, playing as F!MC: _quietly sniffles in a corner_ Then again, update on the horizon. ---
**Author:** ![MahatmaDagon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/mahatmadagon/32/18504_2.png) [@MahatmaDagon](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/MahatmaDagon)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2730 "2018-12-25T23:33:54Z")
In my attempts of balancing the stats gain of the game, along with making new events to raise them, I am considering adding this(as suggested): **Greedy father:** +1 Social, + 1 Knowledge **Wrathful father:** +2 Combat **Lawful father:** +2 Knowledge **Kind father:** + 1 Social, + Knowledge **Old and Proud family origins:** +1 Combat, +1 Knowledge **Raiders from the Sea family origins:** +1 Combat, +1 Social **Late and Ambitious Family Origins:** +2 Social **Settlers from the South Family Origins:** + 2 Combat Any thoughts? I think I can find “excuses” for those numbers. > [@Lynn\_Eve](#): > > Some issues that need to be fixed: > 1- top few marriage options for a female MC. Beside Lord Dulsen’s son and Lord Noyedas, there’s no other choice. While I do agree that there needs to be more marriage options for female MC(and at least one more is coming!), you can also marry Ullus. Also I won’t be adding RO from Farhall or Boglan because it wouldn’t fit what has already been established about the characters from those places. (Only one who would be viable would be NELLASHA\*, but my current philosophy is not to prioritize RO for females) > [@Lynn\_Eve](#): > > 2- heirs. I strongly believe that we need more options on that side. For example, some would certainly prefer to build a strong reign by assuring a numerous offspring. Some would choose to have only a few heirs, others to not have any. It really should be possible to choose to spend time with your spouse and by that increasing the chance to have more heirs ( more than 2 at least) Time is limited. That sentence is true in many ways regarding this game, and I think it serves to explain most of what you are complaining about. You can have 1, 2 or 0 heirs, and you can also have bastards. Since I want all those possible characters to be playable and/or important in the sequel, I won’t be adding more than I can handle. I think there would be no point in adding more descendants if they wouldn’t be fleshed out. So, my point is: I don’t think this is an issue. > [@Marcos\_Brites](#): > > A question about the messiah? Is there the possibility of choosing another person to occupy that place as the heir of the MC? And happy Christmas 😘😘😘 That’s not a bad idea… I do need to predict what happens to the MC’s children if he/she is considered a Messiah anyway, so the “check” is already there anyway. > [@Adam\_Juarez](#): > > I finished the game why did our spy master betray us? Was she possessed? I ended up marrying her at the end There are a few explanations for that, all given within the game depending on which path you choose. Also, the reasons are there, but they are ambiguous. The question is: Is she really betraying you? There are some bits of information about the Triple Chalice spread around the game, and I will be adding more of those as well. They will all be more or less hidden though, and probably require more than one playthrough to understand fully. Basically there is a secret society of resourceful people who are able to get information on all the possible futures and act to turn the one they like the best into reality. Jenneth was a member of that group, but she has her own agenda(as do most of them). > [@kckolbe](#): > > I was progressing through just fine, but one day I attempted to hold court, and it just didn’t ever load. I was holding court about every other day, if that helps. I also checked my connection to other websites, which loaded instantly. @MahatmaDagon Sorry about that. I will be testing the events until I am able to reproduce the bugs that have been reported. Hopefully I will be able to find a reasonable explanation for them. **EDIT:** Also, thanks to whoever been editing the [Stats Tracker sheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AFhsv9G04nhAMLNp65ssNdT1KvwguYStPr6KetNsuWo/edit?usp=sharing). I’ll also be updating it better from now on. Changes mentioned there will be up when I update the files. ---
**Author:** ![Pumpkaboo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/pumpkaboo/32/95973_2.png) [@Pumpkaboo](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Pumpkaboo)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2731 "2018-12-26T01:54:42Z")
@MahatmaDagon I love the idea to have the father type and family background affect your stats so it makes your choices at the creation stage matter. Also can you go over how to bed Nellasha again? Also Sessanah as a potential RO 😍😊 (jk I know it’s not plausible) ---
**Author:** ![kckolbe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9fc348/32.png) [@kckolbe](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/kckolbe)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2732 "2018-12-26T02:15:52Z")
I’ve had two more “stall outs” since my last feedback. I’m guessing you have a ton of words in one scene due to how “freeform” it is? ---
**Author:** ![Norilinde](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/norilinde/32/14109_2.png) [@Norilinde](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Norilinde)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2734 "2018-12-26T11:15:07Z")
> [@Lynn\_Eve](#): > > Also i still don’t get why the norther prince isn’t an option even if it is said that a marriage proposition is possible during the meeting. @MahatmaDagon @Vox My female MC would also like to point out to Lodka that it may be thought of as Nrollorn for spouses to dwell in the same court, but that does not necessarily make it so. > There are those that believe that this is the way things are, and that is all part of the Nrollorn. My father doesn’t think so. He says there must be a different path. My female MC would certainly be willing to parrot back Lodka’s own words and then attempt to be VERY CONVINCING if it meant she could marry the man she loves and the father of her child and heir. Even if their realms could not be united (which itself would be appealing), there seems to me no reason why their first child could not inherit one realm while their next child inherits the other. > [@Lynn\_Eve](#): > > Finally, you said that Ullus is also an option. Can you explain us what is the walktrough in order to get a similar result? @Lynn_Eve When an unmarried female MC hires the mercenaries in preparation for Sielcner’s invasion, she has the Choice (instead of outbidding Sielcner in aurens) to [propose](https://dashingdon.com/play/lucaszaper/the-war-for-the-west-/mygame/scenes/prepareForWar.txt) marriage to Ullus. ---
**Author:** ![MahatmaDagon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/mahatmadagon/32/18504_2.png) [@MahatmaDagon](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/MahatmaDagon)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2735 "2018-12-27T04:05:21Z")
@Bathala @kckolbe I did a few playthroughs playing all the events until I managed to replicate the error you two experienced. Then, following @Norilinde’s and @GoldenSilver’s suggestions, I altered the way the game checks for available events. From what I tested, it seems to be working as it should. It will theoretically also make it easier for me to add some more events that need certain conditions to be achieved before happening, but I think I should be focusing more on “vanilla” ones before that. Remember that you probably need to clear your browser’s cookies and start a new game else the changes will not appear or it will be quite buggy. > [@Lynn\_Eve](#): > > I don’t believe it is impossible to find an option for Boglan and Farhall as well. I’m not talking about marriage with one of their rulers, but of course with someone from that House ( a cousin, or even a brother of Lady Sessanah etc) I see. I agree that is not undoable. > [@Lynn\_Eve](#): > > 2- heirs. I believe that this choice can really be a plus in order to personalize more our experience as regents. During the medieval era, it was really common for a House to have more than just 2 heirs. It was , in fact, a symbol of strong and prosper reigns. I really find that this option could give the game a new propspective in order to build a strong House, expecially before the Summit begins. This would add at least another 9 months to the timeskip, and I already feel that, if you get 2 heirs, there is already a great amount of time where “nothing much” seems to happen. Not to mention the amount of work I would have to retroactively alter every passage which mentions your children, and then I would need to figure out how that stuff would work in the sequel. Most of the paths I have envisioned for the next game don’t consider more than two possible heirs and a few bastards(for this current generation). I also need to deliver this game ASAP, I can’t hang on it much longer. My current focus is on revising both grammar(with the help of people like @TeamCorvid, who is looking into the files on dashingDon and providing some excellent proofreading) and the bugs/balance, as well as a few things that I have left for last, but that a good number of people have been complaining or suggesting for quite a while, such as more RO for female characters and a more realistic relationship with the spouses. > [@Norilinde](#): > > My female MC would certainly be willing to parrot back Lodka’s own words and then attempt to be VERY CONVINCING if it meant she could marry the man she loves and the father of her child and heir. Even if their realms could not be united (which itself would be appealing), there seems to me no reason why their first child could not inherit one realm while their next child inherits the other. Okay, that’s a good point. Yall just love Lodka, don’t you? 😡 ---
**Author:** ![Bathala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/bathala/32/273735_2.png) [@Bathala](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Bathala)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2736 "2018-12-27T04:07:19Z")
_whispers gently_ kill Lodka, Medieval problems require Medieval solutions _flies away_ ---
**Author:** ![MahatmaDagon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/mahatmadagon/32/18504_2.png) [@MahatmaDagon](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/MahatmaDagon)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2737 "2018-12-27T04:12:26Z")
I have plans of making him an important character(and a King) in the sequel. But now I’m becoming more inclined to consider the possibility of him also being the father of the MC’s heir. I have to admit, the possible relationships and interactions that can happen if one takes that path seem quite interesting to portray. ---
**Author:** ![TeamCorvid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/teamcorvid/32/68799_2.png) [@TeamCorvid](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/TeamCorvid)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2738 "2018-12-27T04:16:30Z")
Three words: Beware his fans. Including me. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![TeamCorvid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/teamcorvid/32/68799_2.png) [@TeamCorvid](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/TeamCorvid)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 4:18am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2739 "2018-12-27T04:18:26Z")
> [@MahatmaDagon](#): > > Okay, that’s a good point. Yall just love Lodka, don’t you? 😡 Male ROs that are hot, competent, nice, and young-but-not-too-young are hard to find! ---
**Author:** ![Bathala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/bathala/32/273735_2.png) [@Bathala](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Bathala)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 4:20am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2740 "2018-12-27T04:20:23Z")
I honestly like the idea of making him an Important character(KIng) and a possibility of hiim being a father of the MC’s heir. I’m guessing even if the MC becomes King/Queen, the Eastern part of Ludwin? (I forgot the name) will still rebel or something like that, against the MC. So… After fixing the realm, you can like… get Lodka’s kingdom? Something like one big ass Kingdom United, assuming that Lodka’s grip on the throne isn’t weak. Like what the MC told him “looks like your daddy needs some help in securing his throne” or something like that… ---
**Author:** ![Arcane\_warrior](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/arcane_warrior/32/132820_2.png) [@Arcane\_warrior](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Arcane_warrior)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2741 "2018-12-27T04:44:27Z")
I would rather just kill him and take his lands. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix\_Wolf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/phoenix_wolf/32/159940_2.png) [@Phoenix\_Wolf](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Phoenix_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 5:46am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2742 "2018-12-27T05:46:43Z")
> [@MahatmaDagon](#): > > Okay, that’s a good point. Yall just love Lodka, don’t you? 😡 I want my hairy northern now ---
**Author:** ![kckolbe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9fc348/32.png) [@kckolbe](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/kckolbe)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2743 "2018-12-27T14:07:13Z")
@MahatmaDagon Thanks! I’ll try it again tonight into this weekend. Really looking forward to seeing how things turn out. ---
**Author:** ![joe\_g7](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/joe_g7/32/142127_2.png) [@joe\_g7](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/joe_g7)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2744 "2018-12-27T19:49:03Z")
I didn’t expected to get so immersed into this game. That was fantastic, I enjoyed every second of it. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix\_Wolf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/phoenix_wolf/32/159940_2.png) [@Phoenix\_Wolf](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Phoenix_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2746 "2018-12-27T20:38:56Z")
Against the rules to ask when it’s going to be released. ---
**Author:** ![Dream523](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Dream523](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Dream523)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/the-war-for-the-west-releasing-nov-14/26275/2747 "2018-12-27T20:44:05Z")
Sorry. I’m new here ---
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