The Summoner | Updated Nov. 26th, 2024 (217k words) | Kofi Demo 237k words

I’m always worried I yap too much, but LET ME YAP(goddammit modern lingo).


@LadyUmbreon89

Summary

Hmm I’m currently trying to convey practice/experience by familiarity and how MC acts (not in the demo much yet)–I won’t know how successful I am until I update though lol. I agree with all your points and I think the update either will do a sufficient job of showing that or at least it’s a starting point! I sorta want to be sparing with these scenes to keep it more subtle, but yup–readers will learn more in ch3. I’d say that’s when things are starting. Though like I said, am I successful? To be determined.

Letter!

If you’ve sent it, I’m planning for the response to be received sometime around fighting Viorin (indeterminate). But if you haven’t sent it, Illia isn’t soulless like that so for those readers, they’ll probably receive one later down the line (with of course diff content). Either routes will let you read&respond or not–but I might have to add Illia scenes retroactively as I figure out where it fits best.

I’d have to suffer a concussion to take it any other way. This exchange is beneficial even, and rather considerate, no worries. I appreciate everything you’ve said!

The biggest thing I’m worried about is giving a false impression about the story and getting people’s hopes/expectations up/down lol. I just don’t wanna disappoint ppl–but I’m not intending on pursuing perfection or pleasing everyone under the sun either, so dw;;

Problem I have though is that the nature of IF demos has people perceive the demo they experienced as pretty much the final product–I’m kinda guilty of that ngl–sooo I don’t want to turn out an underwhelming update and turn readers away D:

But oh well. End of the day, this is a hobby project even if I’d rather it be otherwise. If it’s a commercial success, cool. If not, cool. If I get mostly negative reviews, oh well. Onto the next thing lol. Long as I get it out before I die or 25 years pass, I’ll finally be at peace! (dramatic but sincere)


@Valixon Yes, for sure! It’s a shame I’ve written myself into a corner regarding a summoner’s purpose, but I’ve finished a minor battle scene several weeks ago (idr how long it’s been actually), and it went alright. I think you guys will be ok reading it, I won’t rot everyone’s brain with dissatisfaction–but it’ll be a different flavor from the major battle so if it did, maybe the major battle will be better?

Thank you so much, that’s incredibly sweet of you to say. If my story can be memorable and liked by at least 1 person, perhaps that’s all I need haha


@KingofOMega

Summary

You made me aw (in a positive way lol), don’t worry at all about replying to me! I love discussions and such, but don’t feel pressured to do so right away or ever. I love reading what you guys have to say and appreciate it tons, but as always, your own health comes first. I take my own advice sometimes :slight_smile:

Somehow, having public demos makes it feel like a collaborative work–but also, writing is just hard and I don’t have a lot of experience with it ahaha. I’ve never had someone read my writing & give feedback before either–except past teachers and like 2 classmates. And my sister! So since this is the first thing I actually made public, I’ve got some learning to do lol (and honestly I’m a biiig lurker so I’ve never posted on this forum until last year. Idk this forum’s unspoken etiquette tbh).

Ahh, I’m so glad for that. I love tragic things where MC suffers, but the story wrote itself. I originally wanted more tragedy like A Mage Reborn, but it somehow didn’t fit the story to have MC be wronged–besides being conscripted and forced. My inspiration was more Arcadie: Second-Born tbh. While my memory is AWFUL, something about it got this story in my mind. I think I woke up from a dream influenced by it? No idea how everything came to be…

your spirits

I’ve never heard of “whydunit” before, so I learned something new today :0
Caine’s got some trauma related motivations. They’re ok now, but I mean… are they really? Change is not something they’re interested in. But I’m going to see how they change alongside you all. Thanks, pantsing. It’s fun, but it sure leads to random subplots…

Rei’s motivations are rather simple, really. But they’re more mentally unwell than the MC :smiley: And if things go their way, it still might not for you. Ominous.


@AnneWest A hole in one, MC needs more friends :broken_heart:
But they’re sure good at talking, a lack of speaking related shame and reading tons helps a lot.

Writing all my undiagnosed autism into it
I haven’t thought too much about things beyond social anxiety, depression, and a crippling inferiority issue (maybe others? idr), so I’d love to hear more about your thoughts!

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Awesome game so far. Love your writing and love Caine <3.

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:D! Thank you so much! I’m currently at 183k words in my side of the demo, hopefully I can update in the coming months :heart:

but i’ve been taking it slow w writing ngl

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I drew Rei, I think i really outdid myself 🥰

I would say don’t take this as canon, but actually it 100% is. Never been more sure of something in my life. Imagination is NOT better than something concrete!

Also I, like, updated the demo or smthn. Use this link because the one in the main post is outdated :smiling_face_with_three_hearts::smiling_face_with_three_hearts::smiling_face_with_three_hearts:
I’ll get around to updating the main post at some point dw~
I know some of you may be disappointed by the direction I’ve decided to take the story in but lol sucks to suck

This update/rewrite reintroduces the secret RO! Bet you didn’t know there was one! Hooray! Tell me what you think! Or don’t! Bc if its mean i’ll cry

Remember,

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I’m going to be Honest, Hoofington is a very good horse and it makes sense for the summoner to be more connected with her.

I’m just worried that others could get jealous about Hoofington’s and the Summoners relationship.

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I generally hate April Fool’s Day, but this was genuinely cute and funny.

Thanks for putting in the effort to do that.

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@Luke_Storm

Right? I’m thinking I should kill the others off to get over that hurdle entirely
We all know the popular choice here, no need to waste screen time :roll_eyes:

@AnneWest
I shat this out in like several hours too few, I’m glad it could bring what festering joy it could to you :relieved:
Oops, typo. I mean fantastic.

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Clicks the offered link
Reads the link
Stares for several minutes at the screen
…Heh…hehe … HAHAHA!

Oh that was cute and totally not what I was expecting

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Please tell me I fooled you, if even for one second :)!

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my, i LOVE caine. going insane for her! the way she teared up in the snowy scene because she’s touch-starved? caine has my heart!

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It was a good try but I saw this on April fool’s so I knew there had to be a catch :hook:

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Love it. Reminds me a little bit of Dragon Dogma 1/2 and the pawns. Good read, interesting characters. Got me hook up straight away. Can’t wait for more

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Hey guys, it’s been a while! A lot of good, bad, and the usual happened to me the past month lol. I’ve been prioritizing my life and have been touching grass but I’m finally checking back in with a progress update!

  • I reread EVERYTHING to edit things. The entire story, every choice and variation… this is why they say the more words the longer writing takes :skull:

I like to think that process cleaned up a lot of junk but it did take up my writing time lol. So I didn’t write as much as I’d like but this was a good use of my time. (At ~187k words, removed some, added some, typical editing process)

  • I also did a massive clean up of my notes and outline—you wouldn’t believe how nonsensical they were (are). I’ve got like 5 docs with double digit pages, it’s a mess (that I made slightly more manageable).

  • I rewrote a good portion of the beginning and revised a few other sections and I think I’m happy with what I’ve done.

  • I’ve decided to do more choices and less stat variable passages so I converted a few areas… a little sad but choices are more engaging anyway.

  • And something more interesting is that I made a sort of companion game to TS with a side story you can read on it!

Notes about the concept are on kofi, but TLDR: “The itch/io game I made isn’t an accurate rep of this concept, but how tf could I fake 1k+ submissions, comments, a fully functioning website, etc. just to demonstrate a silly idea lol

[…] I needed an excuse to post kofi pieces there and we all want to read about the ROs not random side characters ok

Like, the users post submissions abt their own historical figures?? It’d be hella weird to have glorified fanfic about y/n & some dead person fr”

I was intending it to be a simple project for kofi but couldn’t help becoming enraptured with learning how to use twine and I quite like faking websites & apps (my major should’ve been UI/UX damn it). Coding and debugging was horrible by the way, but satisfying.

Related note:

Read the short story “Sleep” by Haruki Murakami, it’s so good at evoking a floaty atmosphere. Like you’re living behind a window… (sensitive subjects, tho) It influenced me while writing “If We Were Human.”, I’m pretty sure.

Anyway, when I got that framework set up, I comfortably went back to focusing on TS. This was a good excuse to step away from writing that for a bit actually which allowed me to reread everything with fresher eyes.


@yourgalaxies aww, Caine’s so beloved, I’m so happy I could make a character ppl like so much :)!

@KingofOMega rats. So you’re saying I should’ve posted this April fools joke 20 days early to properly mess with you all :pensive: (Marchil Fools…)

@KaTe_Voy ooo I’m not familiar with Dragon Dogma but I think it’s very neat this amateur thing of mine reminded you of a game :smiley:

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If you actually did it the day before I think you would have actually got me lol. Beyond that glad you’re making progress on your IF. Choices with Stat is okay I agree but I see you got something planned if you are trying different things especially if you are giving us more choices.

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I’m at ~194k words :smiley:

It was lookin real dicey there last(or last last? idr) month, lots of dark nights of the soul lol. But I love the scene I’m almost finished up with! Had lots of fun. Although I’ll now have 1k diff ways for the POV to go which is a lil intimidating but I need to remind myself I can take as long as I want.

Side note: I’ve decided to revise the Illia letters—I want to do a different thing with that plot thread than I planned. And it doesn’t have to be 50k words to be satisfactory: a great realization.

Hard-won truth: I must focus on the important parts. I must cut out extraneous details, even if it makes “logical sense”.

I’ve been real retrospective w/ writing lately. Lots of reflecting on what I want out of TS… and what I want is something I’d personally like to read while having a good time writing it, not my magnum opus.

Not a hassle and a burden but a hobby. Hope my inspired phase lasts but if not, I’ll surely find it again at some point💪


@KingofOMega In some time zones I did do it 1 day before lmao but RIP.
Thank you! Previously I had a lot of scenes only visible if you have the right amount of stats, but now you’ll be able to choose what you want instead–which only applies to the ones that make sense to convert.

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Congrats :smiley:

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Thank you :D! I hope the story will still be good but I will be staying away from promising anything including future plot because It makes it difficult to feel like I can stray from certain ideas lol

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Looking forwards to more content from this story ^-^ It’s been a blast reading so far! The festival scene was really cute.

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Progress update: I’m taking a different approach to writing atm so I can’t give a meaningful wordcount, but things are still trucking along…

…Very slowly though, especially since I’ve been busy lately and I think that tanked my motivation :sob:
I broke my writing streak, but surely when things settle down, I can fix my routine. Surely!

I’ve been mostly fleshing out my outline (or first draft if you will) instead of writing in CScript, but the work should carry through easily enough. I want to commit to the outline before updating the demo because I’m not sure what I’ll scrap or what I should add to make things make sense… man writing is tough when you’re not starting out a project lol

As always, I appreciate your guys’ support, thanks for hanging in there in these dry months :+1:


@DarthLawliet Ahh I’m glad you liked that section :D! I certainly threw my back into it so I’m very happy you enjoyed your experience, hopefully I’ll make decent progress in the coming months lol

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Guys it’s been so long since I last posted :pleading_face::pleading_face: did you forget about me? (Not as long if you follow my Kofi haha wink wink u can do that for free btw)

Anyway, I’M FINALLY UPDATING THE DEMO WOOHOOOO!!! I’m so happy! It’s now 217k words long with an avg of ~58k words per playthrough!

Sadly it’s NOT the full chapter 4 but the plot’s really plotting now I think.

Make sure to play from the start instead of using a save file if you definitely want the correct stats and variables. I sure feel like I edited a lot but I’ve been staring at the file so long I have no idea what I did anymore.


What’s new exactly?

  • I edited the RO details in the main forum post. It’s more interesting now :D!
  • I’ve changed the way POVs are shown in the story.
  • No more dagger. Rip to the 1.2k words I cut.
  • Added social/standoffish stat
  • I’ve edited the prose, structure, and code of previous chapters + added choices and text here and there. Some important but subtle changes. Some less subtle. Ngl, there’s some stuff I should still rewrite but maybe on pass number 38491 lol
  • The plot/outline is different-ish, forget everything I’ve posted about previously & whatever you remember from the prev. demo :skull:
  • Set out on your march and get to know some new people. Make choices on said march that may ruin lives! (I say that, but it’s not as thrilling as it sounds?)
  • Heal your spirit and ditch your duties! Or stay responsible until you can’t.
  • Meet Jackal!
  • & more! But go ahead and discover them yourself. I’d say they’re just as meaningful despite not mentioning them.

Extra (spoilers)

Some silly Easter eggs: Name the fox after yourself, the ROs, or Foxmeat. I’m dumb and silly ok

In past chapters, you also get some flavor text depending on your pc’s first and last name, if you haven’t noticed and are curious.

If you find your story too light for your liking, make a bad decision at you-know-where. Keeping safe would be logical, but there’s no drama if you don’t risk things. Just wanted to mention that bc the mood for both paths are pretty different. Some people like grimmer stories, some don’t. Hopefully I can accommodate both groups to a degree.

About Willow: she wasn’t originally supposed to die. I thought I’d just chop off her arm and call it a day but. She went from living to possibly living depending on your choices to dead 100% rip girlie


As promised several posts back, click this link to see 50 first-date questions answered by Caine, Rei, and Jackal to celebrate the update!

If you would like to monetarily support my writing so I can focus on The Summoner more, please consider subbing for a month to see the full version and much more on my kofi ^^;

Here, you got 17 questions answered by Caine & Rei, 16 by Jackal. The full version has the same 50 questions for all the ROs; 150 in total! I want to start hosting the early access demo there once I get enough writing done (which should be the rest of CH4 eventually & maybe some of CH5, I’m not sure. Which I would then release 1-2 weeks after the writing is polished)

Also, I drew Jackal!

Like I said with Caine, no need to take this as canon. Their hair length can be whatever you want, but long hair is fun to draw c:

I drew Rei too (twice… so 4 times in total), but I’m still not satisfied so I’ll redraw them AGAIN one day. But you can see the old art here if you’re interested! I might post some of them outside ko-fi eventually, if I stop being embarrassed :L


Who’s your favorite character?

  • Caine
  • Rei
  • Jackal
  • Willow
  • Calla
  • Someone else (???)
  • No one :skull:
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Good for me to know what you guys like c:

Obviously there’s no nuance in this poll but I’m still curious anyway! Feel free to tell me who you hate as well and tell me if that’s because of their character & you’re invested or because I suck at writing lol (be gentle I’m sensitive)

What rating did Rei give you? (Redo)

  • 5
  • 4
  • 3.5
  • It’s definitely bad.
  • Didn’t rate me.
  • I didn’t give a tour.
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Anyway, that’s all for this time! Please let me know what you think, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Much of this is very unknown territory for me to write lol

I’m learning so much about writing with this project and I get it now—I CAN retroactively change things and retcon them because this is the first draft. Even if it’s polished and public, it’s still the first version​:+1::+1::+1:if I write myself into a corner, I can edit myself out of it. If I’m stuck as hell on a plot point, then just write 5 versions and pick my favorite! (No, I’m totally not crying over all the stuff I scrapped…)

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