Artie still cool name regardless but for mc we’re reduced to Jo🤣
I mean he literally use his magic to fight with a sword, King Arthur’s tomb is part of his prophecy AND Excalibur is one of the power you can go search for.
Also he seem to mostly fight using water so the Lady of the Lake connection is also there.
Also about Artie’s name, you can see on the character page that after you give your name to the Elf King, it change to ‘Joe ‘Artie’ Bloggs’.
When I hear the name Bloggs it makes me think of Bog then it progresses into the word Bogwater…
Artie and MC is a twin bound by fate and destiny although we’re not exactly the same.
One chosen by Fate and another is by Destiny.
Good for you at least hearing this name it’s always remind me of bloke.
Also Jo/Joe/Jane doe.
I just think of a blog personally.
Wait isn’t Fate and Destiny the same thing in most concepts? What makes them different here? Nevermind Google says the two are different. Ignore my confused comment.
One of reason we are tied with Artie is because one chosen by destiny (Artie) and MC is chosen by Fate.
We’re like wild card I suppose.
Nah, the whole point is that you’re nothing, not chosen by anything and you’re basically bloodless too.
Which sucks but it also means all the stuff put in place to stop Chosen Ones and Mages? Yeah, doesn’t affect you.
That loophole is exactly why our time traveling friend chose you for his plan and it worked and you’ve gathered way too much momentum from accomplishing what he wanted that you can’t just ‘poof away’ anymore like your original self / nobodies do so you end up as the ‘unknown factor’ to a lot of situations a lot of parties had already foreseen without you included.
You’re a nobody in the only messed situation that would allow you to shape yourself into somebody.
I guess you could say you were chosen but it wasn’t by any higher power, it was just a normal mage who started abusing time travel and he just chose you because your life sucked so much that even basically being a target for a demon lord was better and thus he’d feel less guilty.
From the story MC is not just nobody, MC try their best to avoid certain situation, no one can say this not how it’s turn out, while MC is weak they play as key role in certain part of the story, that doesn’t seem like nobody, sure MC is weak but later develop ability as well.
This is how it goes for chosen one story either by destiny or simply by at the right time at the right place thus chosen by Fate regardless of reason, simply by being there set chain of event later.
Is it wrong to say MC is like Iolaus while Artie is the Hercules?
You know, there are a lot of plot points that could come back and be key to some routes to defeat Dread Demon Lord and I wonder how many of them will actually make a comeback.
Like the Angels, sure they seemingly all left when the one protected us got sealed with the Demon Lord but as we saw, even a single attack like the meteor can take years as far as Angels go so the last sightings being from a millenia and 500 years ago instead of the Bronze Age when they initially left could actually mean they’re coming back, especially if they are feeling the seal cracking and thus their old friend inside.
And then there’s our guardian angel himself, as the seals were cracking, we already saw that ‘fleas’ that live on the demon lord are getting out so as the seals keep breaking, he could get out too (and might even be the source of Divine Power we need to bring back Artie).
There’s also Xiulan’s theory about the missing elements from other philosophical schools / cultures, with the missing elements, we might be able to create a ‘perfect seal’ that never degrade or maybe even a seal that drain the dread demon lord’s power until he disappear overtime. Hell, you could even turn him into a power source of sort with a powered down version of that seal, an unstable and dangerous one but a power source nonetheless, provided he doesn’t develop a consciousness.
Which bring me to the fact that now we know the Demon Lord is mindless like an animal so maybe the key to actually defeat him could be to actually make him develop a consciousness instead of fighting him. Regardless of being ancient, with a newly grown consciousness, he wouldn’t be very different from a newborn and thus very influenceable, making it easy to push him to NOT eat everything around him all the time. What better way to get rid of an Almighty Idiot than to make him think?
I could name other stuff like the door in King Arthur’s tomb but that seem more related to Artie’s resurrection or Excalibur than anything else (Wouldn’t be surprised if we need it to go talk to Death).
It’s better to ask this to author I guess, where we go from here, what’s possible resolution of this story, what’s the cost? All can only be answered by author.
I’m just theorizing, not really asking for spoilers or answers.
Well, it is supposed to be a meaningful choice… That’s why it has to be the name you chose – the first thing you actually got to choose for yourself (kinda) – and not the Jo(e) Bloggs name that was chosen for you. And yeah, Joe Bloggs (which is a British name for an ordinary person, thematically pretty similar to John/Jane Doe) is intended to sounds pretty uninspiring, yes.
And yeah, this is definitely the hardest of the three routes, which is why it’s got such harsh prerequisites.
That said, it’s not the only possible price to pay. There is another.
Whoops, that’s a bug; Artie is supposed to keep the old name.
Well, yeah. In an ideal world you’d be able to do all of them. But unfortunately you don’t have the time or resources to do them all (and, out of universe, it’s interactive fiction, so it’s generally good to have multiple different ways of doing things).
It’s been mentioned in the computer plotline as part of the power source, but it hasn’t been gone into yet.
Elf magic is confusing and powerful.
I should probably go into it in more detail in-story, but essentially you no longer share a name with Artie, and indeed now effectively never did, but were still brought into the magical world in their place despite that. However, the magic means that people just don’t think too hard about it, as seen here with the Duke:
“…I will admit that my anger at the death of [original name]…” He pauses, a confused look on his face, but quickly continues. “My anger, although completely justified, was aimed at someone blameless: yourself…”
Oh, it would have been much easier not to change your name…
Again, unfortunately that’s a bug… But otherwise, your analysis is right.
You were nobody. But I’m pretty certain you’re not “nobody” any more.
All I’m going to say is that there will be happy endings, even for the resurrection route, although it will be rather harder to get than in the other two routes. There may even be a way to get your old name back, but I haven’t worked out how yet.
Old name meaning Artie’s name?
If we give up our name, (and we didn’t give Alder our name in the wood) would you consider giving us a choice as to whether we want to go back to using Jo/e Bloggs or if we’d prefer to use Rowan (I guess Bloggs would still be there, though)?
I would rather give one eye than having this horrible name, I’ll throw half of my hearing as well to tell you how bad it is.
It’s not costly just very annoying, not cool and sound bad ugh…
Oh, if that was a bug I guess the ‘Renounce any claim to chosenhood’ thematic work but then it bring the issue of how we were ever mistaken for the Chosen One with the wrong name, no? Or does losing our name have no retroactive effect outside of automatically replacing how people call us?
Elf magic is powerful so in this story (after giving our name) we kinda yanked into magical world for no reason (original reason is because our name) and weirdly being propped as Chosen one and people just doesn’t think about it too much, which give inconsistency in the timeline but nobody care for such inconsistency due to Elven magic influence.
The Duke apparently hating us for no reason now since we never have that name to begin with, he is feeling angry but got confused himself because we’re completely innocent.
Just rewrite your name in Death’s book when they aren’t looking when you go make a deal with them, by all account it should count as rewriting your true name. It worked for Wukong and the fact it made a massive mess that allowed another monkey to impersonate him to the point even magic and the gods couldn’t confirm it (barring one specific creature who was too scared to tell anyway and Buddha himself) is totally a minor issue.
It could also fit with our potential stated goal of never dying / immortality.