I agree, especially now that Darius sends you a letter in chapter 6 explaining his backstory meaning you can spend chapter 6 visiting Antonius/Consentia/Ceto to initiate their romance and earn favor with them.
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Seem like a good compromise
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sharing my stats
Warfare: 1
Rhetoric: 5
Scholarship: 2
Economics: 5
Subterfuge: 5
Chapter I Bonus Stat: No.
Chapter II Bonus Stat: No.
Victory Clock (Battle for the Spire): 2 (Success at <= 0)
Victory Clock (Battle for Kyro): 3 (Success at <= 0)
Arcanii Battle Strength: 85
Kyro Status: 0 (0 = Pyrrhic Victory; 1-2 = Incomplete Victory; 3 = Complete Victory)
Empire Status: Stability (29) Resources (32) Power (31)
Augusta Status: Burned Paragon (Rhetoric) (Economics)
does anyone know what moves the value that determines what victory you get for kyro
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Now, as the highest ranking member of government left standing, you return to your office within the battered palace and tally the losses. From there, you must consider the next course of action to be taken.
*if (watch_destroyed = false)
*set kyro_status +1
*if (castra_aided = true)
*set kyro_status +1
*if victory_clock <= 0
*set kyro_status +1
You must save the watch, the Castra and get in time to the palace, saving the Sortiariorum donât matter but if you donât go you lose power and it will probably have pretty massive consequence when you fight the Witch King
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I just tested the last update and I tried what I never did to side with senate and romance Consentia. It resulted to losing Darius, Scarred Agusta and the worst betrayal by founding Cons secret and immediately regretting all the play through as I sacrificed Darius and goddess secrets to romance one other than Julia I thought was good Romance but got struck in guts.
I really think there isnât a good Female romance except Julia so not surprising she is the most romanced choice for players. Ceto doesnât have good character and is so lower than even the non consort perfect. And Consentia is not even one in the category basically. Even goddess isnât good as she is like a illuminaty symbol monster with having eyes all over body.
Also Darius alliance is really hard as you will lose any chance to do romance with anyone else, specifically for not gay mens as they can at the least romance Darius himself. Let alone developing other alliances with senate or legate.
And I think there is a very big lack of compromise choices for balancing empire in both first Arc between senate and legate, and in court petitions especially in the latest chapter. In my opinion the best leader is who could make enemies compromise for betterment of ALL. But the game doesnât allow it.
Edit: I also really want to know if perfect wants to be the sole ruler not just a consort how the inheritance for them would work as they donât have child or are sacrificing her to stole her powers? Edit2: I only can think to use perfects sister children, other than doing more breeding themselves. Is new child possible for perfect? Edit3: or we could just assign Agusta as our heir and ask goddess to convince church to promote acceptability of bastard rulerships.
Iâm told you can still get Darius and romance Consentia late in chapter 6 â Iâve never tried it though. And yes, itâs very easy to get crispy Augusta on a Senate run sadly.
Iâm not sure what you mean by betrayal and Consentiaâs secret, which means that probably never happened for me.
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I suspect theyâre referring to Consentia being Nova/trans
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Oh, THAT! I donât think I ever officially found that out but I put the dots together from the potion or tea or whatever.
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Now itâs my turn to be completely surprised. I guess going all in on the Darius BFF route has deprived me of some quite important information.
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Why do you think Consentia being Nova is a betrayal? I think itâs quite brave of Consentia to come out to you about such a deep aspect of her identity in a society that can be extremely bigoted towards people like her (as a nova MC will discover when they meet Aite). Consentia is no less a woman because of her nova background, I donât think itâs fair to disqualify Con as a good female romance because sheâs willing to be extremely vulnerable and share a deep secret with the prefect that could see her experience a lot of prejudice if it was exposed publicly. If anything, I think it enhances and strengthens the romantic bond between Con and the MC.
What makes you think Ceto doesnât have good character? She advocates for increasing the grain dole to feed the starving people of Kyro in chapter 1 and to prioritize rations for the people in chapter 3, she allows the lower classes of Iudia (laborers, artisans, tenant farmers, freedwomen) to meet Augusta during her coronation in chapter 7, sheâs the one empowering the plebeian assemblies across Iudia by pushing for them to be able to defend themselves. Sure, a lot of it is in self-interest, but thatâs no different from all the other power players really. Her criminal enterprise isnât ideal, certainly, but I donât see it as particularly egregious in a world where slavery (Antonius, Consentia) and genocide (Julia) is commonplace. Give Cetoâs romance a chance, I think youâll be surprised by what you find underneath the facade of a ruthless crime boss.
You can start a romance with Antonius, Ceto or Consentia in chapter 6 after the Battle for Kyro.
Are you sure? Itâs possible to get 13 compromise on the Senate path if you do everything the Foederati like, have a Hadati background, and donât provoke or kill Aite. Let paragon Augusta decide for herself how to handle the chapter 7 court scene and youâre golden.
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You: the goddess is an iPhone app, this could have major impacts on Iudian politics
me: what?!
me: the consul is a nova, this could have major impacts on Iudian politics
you: what?!
I should also add that more interesting (to me) than Consentiaâs deepest secrets, if you spend time with her she plays the cithera for you which is very nice. There are a couple scenes like this.
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That was my first hint too, but thereâs a few other ones that you can pick up on as well, depending on how you play (and itâs why her revealing that sheâs Nova if youâre romancing her wasnât a surprise to me whatsoever).
Early on if youâre Nova yourself and mention this fact to Consentia, she gives you a strange look and quotes Nova scripture to you. She plays it off as she knew someone well who was Nova, but itâs apparent that she knows more about the subject than youâd expect for someone supposedly not Nova themselves.
After the Battle of Kyro, if youâre romancing her and choose to spend time with her (and accept her gift to you), then if you have high Subterfuge the Prefect will note at one point that she seems ashamed about something, but theyâre not sure what about; this on its own doesnât necessarily mean anything, but if you combine it with some of the other hints, you can infer what she might be ashamed about.
You should be able to find out this information even if you go full in on Dariusâ route. You just need to flirt with her when choosing to secure an alliance with her over the Legate in the beginning, then spend time with her after the Battle of Kyro. If youâre still on her romance route, you should then get an opportunity in the latest chapter for her to reveal that sheâs Nova to us.
I do wonder if this is something a Prefect whoâs an unscrupulous bastard could use against Consentia - perhaps blackmailing her into doing/not doing something in order to further our own ends, with the threat that weâd reveal her status as Nova otherwise (and outright doing so if she doesnât heed us regardless)?
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And betray Juliaâs affection in such a manner? Never! She might be merely a LLM now, but I shall remain faithful to her memory.
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If it helps, fake flirting/romance works as well, though youâll need to have high Subterfuge in order to be able to trick Consentia that youâre genuine about your affections to her (and in turn for her to trust you enough to reveal her secret to you).
Thatâs how Iâve be able to do it anyway, as I personally canât stomach romancing her genuinely (as I despise both her and the Senate as a whole).
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Thank you for the explanation. Unfortunately, I find myself unable to entertain such deceit, because I would feel bad about it.
Yes, the one who is willing to bring ruin to thousands just to have his way way gets squeamish about some lying. Hypocrisy is my middle name, but itâs a name coated with some proximity bias.
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Now that we are talking of consentia route i was surprais that the novae can both get pregnate and get some elsr pregnate whit talk of a proces more advance than the modern i admit that iâm not very knowledgeable about the modern process but i almost sure that they canât do that
Aha! That explains it â I missed every opportunity. I do not have that status in common, I only have Treasuryâs starting subterfuge, and when chapter 7 came out I couldnât access the romance scenes this time because I didnât kill Julia nor fall out of love with her and was therefore on a âtrue loveâ path with Julia and thus ineligible to romance Consentia.
The mere thought makes me feel just as sick as the idea of puppeteering Augusta. Things that a manipulative character absolutely would do but the very concept horrifies me.
Itâs interesting too bc I play a prefect with his own secrets but mine get outed to the world (illegitimate Augusta) but I could see that as a reason why my MC would hate the concept of blackmail.
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I also found out from this discussion. Huh. Good for living your truth, Consentia. I suppose it does explain her social conservatism to some extent.
I would rather not end up with my head on a pike, thank you. Also, subterfuge I isnât doing me any favors. I canât really lie very well.
Those two professions arenât as different as you might think. Especially given that the Empress in question illegally seized power through criminal acts of violence against Iudian citizens and only legitimized it after the fact.
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Does it? I wouldâve thought that was mostly down to her position in life: both benefitted and shackled by the privileges of class. Obviously matricians arenât all alike: but consider the differences between say, Julia, Scilla, and Consentia and consider where their families sit.
of course, there IS that pulling up the ladder question â but Iâve never had cause to talk to Consentia about what she thinks about the matriarchy specifically, rather than her particular class interests. And of course, she likely wouldnât see it as a matter of class but rather of station and standing.
Iâm always saying this about Julia. This is why I sometimes express my love and disappointment with some light stabbing, depending on the run.
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Fair enough. I donât typically go for that sort of approach either (as I usually find other stats to be more useful and that it doesnât typically fit with the type of Prefect I usually roleplay as).
Youâre allowed your hypocrisies, my friend. No human in history as ever lived without being guilty of some form of hypocrisy - itâs part of what makes us such complex creatures.
For me, I find romancing Julia so interesting because of this aspect, as I usually play my Prefect as someone whoâs motivated by idealism, loves Augusta (she is my daughter after all), and just generally tries to be a good person when possible (urging Julia to spare the Cadanu survivors, saving Tristitia, etc.).
I could see him going along with her plans to overthrow Scilla, shore up her rule, because he thinks itâs the best of a bad situation and that he can be the proverbial angel on her shoulder, counselling her against what he considers to be the more cruel/evil decisions where possible.
My Prefect by this point in the story recognises that Julia is a bad person, but he canât stop loving her because heâs in too deep and still thinks he can do more good by her side than against her (even if that may ultimately be misguided). He also canât bring himself to do anything against Julia for the simple fact that sheâs the mother of his child - as much as there might be times where heâll think Iudia might be better off with someone kinder in charge, he canât bring himself to do things that might hurt Julia for what effect it might have on Augusta (a girl he loves more than himself and would do anything for).
Iâm pretty sure that Novae canât get pregnant, as theyâre meant to be Iudiaâs equivalent to trans women in our world.
As I was explaining to @Oreven, I think you should be able to still find this out even if youâre fake-romancing Consentia (so you shouldnât be locked out of this route even if you have a genuine romance with Julia).
I feel the same way honestly; Iâve played once or twice as a Prefect who doesnât care about Augusta and is just using her for his own ends (just to see what itâs like), and it just made me feel like I was kicking a puppy lol.
I donât think I would ever actually do that to Consentia if it does turn out to be an option, but I feel like it should be a choice for those roleplaying as that type of character.
Speaking of Augusta, but an interesting approach Iâve tried more and more recently is to have her as a Paragon with high trust, but her wilfulness is kept between 30 to 49%.
So basically sheâs still a good, competent person whom I can trust to make good decisions in my absence, yet is still malleable (and trusts me) enough at the moment to take my advice on certain things (e.g. refusing to reconvene the Senate).
I am essentially manipulating her, but (from my biased perspective at least) kindly for what I think is the best for her and the Empire, not for selfish reasons such as my own power.
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