# New net neutrality problems **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [November 22, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532 "2017-11-22T03:55:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Natman1025](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/natman1025/32/243072_2.png) [@Natman1025](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Natman1025)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/1 "2017-11-22T03:55:57Z")
I hate to be the bearer of bad news guys but the FCC is removing some of the important parts of net neutrality that can effect everyone here. here is markiplier, jacksepticeye, and Doug Walker aka Nostalgia Critic to help us all out, CHECK IT ON YOUTUBE! Find this on YouTube and watch it there as the description holds a lot of info you guys need to see. May we save the internet and keep it free [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OHyMORrsaYk/maxresdefault.jpg "We Need to STOP This") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHyMORrsaYk) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/DxHaEQ5qIZI/maxresdefault.jpg "Save Net Neutrality") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxHaEQ5qIZI) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ndeUU9n9wNg/maxresdefault.jpg "Time To Make A Difference") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndeUU9n9wNg) Here is a video to help explain what is happening to net neutrality [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UsyzP5hejxI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Internet is under attack. This is the Battle for the Net.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsyzP5hejxI) I’m sorry to say but we have failed, net neutrality is gone, BUT IS NOT GONE FOREVER Public outcry is so bad that most analyst believe that net neutrality will be back relatively quickly Do as much as you can so that we can make the internet free for everyone > **[F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules (Published 2017)](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/technology/net-neutrality-repeal-vote.html?referer=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F)** > > In a 3-to-2 vote along party lines, the agency scrapped Obama-era rules meant to protect an open internet. ---
**Author:** ![Kiogu1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kiogu1](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Kiogu1)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 9:00am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/2 "2017-11-22T09:00:23Z")
LET THEM TRY 😈 😈 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Taylor\_Enean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/taylor_enean/32/8534_2.png) [@Taylor\_Enean](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Taylor_Enean)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 9:10am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/3 "2017-11-22T09:10:27Z")
Crikey on a little bikey, greedy indeedy! 😨 Maybe microtransactions for the net comes next? 😱 ---
**Author:** ![MeltingPenguins](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/meltingpenguins/32/255855_2.png) [@MeltingPenguins](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/MeltingPenguins)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 9:14am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/4 "2017-11-22T09:14:20Z")
Comes? Portugal already has that. ---
**Author:** ![Taylor\_Enean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/taylor_enean/32/8534_2.png) [@Taylor\_Enean](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Taylor_Enean)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 9:26am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/5 "2017-11-22T09:26:07Z")
> [@MeltingPenguins](#): > > Comes? Portugal already has that. Really? Microtransactions for the net? 😲 ---
**Author:** ![a\_shoggoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/a_shoggoth/32/94166_2.png) [@a\_shoggoth](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/a_shoggoth)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 9:36am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/6 "2017-11-22T09:36:19Z")
Here’s another thing you could do to try and hopefully influence someone in the white house. Although, considering who’s in the white house, I’m not optimistic about it this time. Ajit Pai can go FCC himself [https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/do-not-repeal-net-neutrality](https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/do-not-repeal-net-neutrality) ---
**Author:** ![cookiemonsta](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/cookiemonsta/32/37061_2.png) [@cookiemonsta](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/cookiemonsta)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/7 "2017-11-22T12:18:50Z")
> 98% of the people asked voted AGAINST destroying Net Neutrality > government proceeds to destroy Net Neutrality [![](https://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/220659-So-This-Is-How-Liberty-Dies.gif) ](https://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/220659-So-This-Is-How-Liberty-Dies.gif) ---
**Author:** ![idonotlikeusernames](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/idonotlikeusernames/32/5993_2.png) [@idonotlikeusernames](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/idonotlikeusernames)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/8 "2017-11-22T12:21:56Z")
> [@cookiemonsta](#): > > 98% of the people asked voted AGAINST destroying Net Neutrality > > government proceeds to destroy Net Neutrality Cause 98% of relevant big donors voted for, and as Citizens United so aptly states money is speech and they just used the more persuasive speech to your politician’s ears (and wallets). 😒 ---
**Author:** ![cookiemonsta](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/cookiemonsta/32/37061_2.png) [@cookiemonsta](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/cookiemonsta)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/9 "2017-11-22T12:35:30Z")
Worst part is, if that law passes then other counties will adopt it as well 😓 I just want to know what these people are going to do with so much money, they aren’t going to take it with them to the grave 😒 ---
**Author:** ![idonotlikeusernames](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/idonotlikeusernames/32/5993_2.png) [@idonotlikeusernames](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/idonotlikeusernames)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 12:42pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/10 "2017-11-22T12:42:22Z")
> [@cookiemonsta](#): > > Worst part is, if that law passes then other counties will adopt it as well 😓 Sure is, the bums in our European Commission are scarcely better and neither is the European Parliament as long as the EPP maintains their majority. 😒 > [@cookiemonsta](#): > > I just want to know what these people are going to do with so much money, they aren’t going to take it with them to the grave 😒 Pass it on to their obnoxious heirs so they can maintain their lifestyles obviously as well as criticize the rest of us for not working hard enough. 😒 ---
**Author:** ![Perfect\_Storm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/perfect_storm/32/1194_2.png) [@Perfect\_Storm](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Perfect_Storm)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 1:05pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/11 "2017-11-22T13:05:13Z")
@idonotlikeusernames Thing is though, Google, Amazon, Facebook and I believe Netflix have all stated they absolutely oppose the repeal. There’s hardly a dearth of money on the side of Net Neutrality. It’ll probably come down to which group manages to lobby harder and put more money into the White House’s pocket, plus bringing enough word to bear on the ear of Congress to make them think they will/won’t last in the public eye if they do follow through with this. I honestly don’t think it’ll pass. Too much backlash if they do, both from the voters and the big internet based companies. ---
**Author:** ![idonotlikeusernames](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/idonotlikeusernames/32/5993_2.png) [@idonotlikeusernames](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/idonotlikeusernames)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/12 "2017-11-22T13:09:41Z")
Ah, but aren’t Google and Fakebook etc mainly _Democratic_ party donors? While the cable companies and ISP’s are mainly _Republican_ donors, so that must be it. On the other hand having them donate bigly, as your president would say, to upstanding Republicans like Roy Moore is sort of shooting yourself in the foot too. ---
**Author:** ![RenaB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/renab/32/10268_2.png) [@RenaB](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/RenaB)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/13 "2017-11-22T13:27:50Z")
Ahhh, geez. This just… makes me sad. And angry, but mostly just sad and disappointed that this is even a problem. But! That just means I need to do all I can to aid the fight to keep Net Neutrality. ---
**Author:** ![Voldy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/voldy/32/146053_2.png) [@Voldy](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Voldy)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/14 "2017-11-22T16:15:53Z")
Destroy the FCC, not Net Neutrality. ---
**Author:** ![Perfect\_Storm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/perfect_storm/32/1194_2.png) [@Perfect\_Storm](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Perfect_Storm)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/15 "2017-11-22T16:29:45Z")
My… President? What? I don’t like your tone there, sir. I reside in the most glorious Commonwealth of Australia, not some mangy, jumped up republic. President indeed… Either way, not everything is about politics. This is about business. Regardless of what you think of them, regardless of whether they actually care about the ability of the common citizen to equal access to internet services, this is a threat to their business model. It theoretically could allow the ISP companies to play favourites or even shut down the competition by making the load times on their site ludicrously long or even restricted for their customers, especially if things get even more deregulated. That presents a tangible threat to the internet dominance of these companies so they _will_ fight it through every avenue available to them. ---
**Author:** ![MeltingPenguins](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/meltingpenguins/32/255855_2.png) [@MeltingPenguins](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/MeltingPenguins)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/16 "2017-11-22T16:32:06Z")
Everytime I see this stuff happening I’m reminded how Disney is hushing up that they SAVED roughly 1-2 billion dollars in advertising for FROZEN due to people doing what disney would love to forbid them from: making gifs etc ---
**Author:** ![idonotlikeusernames](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/idonotlikeusernames/32/5993_2.png) [@idonotlikeusernames](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/idonotlikeusernames)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/17 "2017-11-22T16:54:39Z")
> [@Perfect\_Storm](#): > > My… President? What? I don’t like your tone there, sir. I reside in the most glorious Commonwealth of Australia, not some mangy, jumped up republic. President indeed… The US is the pilot-programme, the EU, Australia and the UK will probably follow later if they are successful in the US first. > [@Perfect\_Storm](#): > > Either way, not everything is about politics. This is about business. Business = politics and politics=business, particularly in the highly de-regulated and privatized landscapes of the US and to a slightly lesser degree the EU. After all one can build crony capitalism only if the state either doesn’t regulate the market at all, which results in the country being run by dynastic monopolies in an oligarchic government. Call it a “noble republic” and you have our (in)famous golden age. Or and this is the easier route if the state picks favourites and “privatizes” and regulates to the exclusive advantage of those people and their businesses. > [@Perfect\_Storm](#): > > this is a threat to their business model. It theoretically could allow the ISP companies to play favourites or even shut down the competition by making the load times on their site ludicrously long or even restricted for their customers, especially if things get even more deregulated. That presents a tangible threat to the internet dominance of these companies so they will fight it through every avenue available to them. I know what it is and I know what it will do to the internet. I also know both the internet tech companies and the ISP’s and cable companies have enormous war-chests, so in the post-Citizens United US of A we are about to see which side can muster enough persuasive “speech” to win the argument. > [@MeltingPenguins](#): > > Everytime I see this stuff happening I’m reminded how Disney is hushing up that they SAVED roughly 1-2 billion dollars in advertising for FROZEN due to people doing what disney would love to forbid them from: > > making gifs etc The downside is that crowdsourcing like that, whether it is wanted or appreciated or not does have the effect of putting a lot of marketeers out of business. ---
**Author:** ![MeltingPenguins](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/meltingpenguins/32/255855_2.png) [@MeltingPenguins](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/MeltingPenguins)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/18 "2017-11-22T17:33:00Z")
Not crowdsourcing. Fans. Fans sharing images (fanart, etc) , speculations, reviews, discussing stuff etc. Without disney having to spent a single dollar. Had they tried to reach the same people to the same effect by an ad campaign they would have had to spent around 1 billion dollars additionally to what they already spent on the ads as we saw them. ---
**Author:** ![cookiemonsta](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/cookiemonsta/32/37061_2.png) [@cookiemonsta](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/cookiemonsta)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/19 "2017-11-22T21:40:27Z")
Well, like some people have said even if the law passes the backlash will be HUGE. I’m staying positive that people will use their right to protest (peacefully and democratically of course) in order to diminish that law. ---
**Author:** ![Hazuki](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/hazuki/32/23268_2.png) [@Hazuki](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Hazuki)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532/20 "2017-11-23T02:11:03Z")
> Apparently, New Zealand has this problem too… [Next page](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-net-neutrality-problems/32532.md?page=2)