# New Hosted Game! "The War for the West" by Lucas Zaper

**URL:** <https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** hosted-games\
**Created:** [November 14, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823 "2019-11-14T14:50:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![liam12361](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/liam12361/32/130010_2.png) [@liam12361](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/liam12361)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/632 "2021-07-25T14:09:41Z")

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Thank you

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**Author:** ![TheSilentMajority](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a4c791/32.png) [@TheSilentMajority](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/TheSilentMajority)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/633 "2021-08-07T20:33:55Z")

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Sorry, if this has been asked earlier, but what happens if instead of making an armor, we try to bring the beast back to life?

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**Author:** ![TemplarFounder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/templarfounder/32/151460_2.png) [@TemplarFounder](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/TemplarFounder)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/634 "2021-08-07T23:28:06Z")

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I don’t quite recall, but I believe things go wrong and people end up dying and the monster ends up dying again I’m not sure though. Hopefully someone else replies with more information.

You could also do another playthrough and save it before you make the decision.

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**Author:** ![Denzil\_Melgior\_Nagel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/denzil_melgior_nagel/32/41331_2.png) [@Denzil\_Melgior\_Nagel](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Denzil_Melgior_Nagel)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/635 "2021-08-07T23:49:04Z")

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If you do that, someone will destroy the place where the experiment is being done. It is not worth it.

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**Author:** ![Perseo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/perseo/32/93094_2.png) [@Perseo](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Perseo)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 11:32am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/636 "2021-09-01T11:32:54Z")

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Wow of the best games definitely left me wanting more I wonder if the author in any future will work on any sequel

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**Author:** ![TemplarFounder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/templarfounder/32/151460_2.png) [@TemplarFounder](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/TemplarFounder)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/637 "2021-09-01T12:15:50Z")

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> [@Perseo](#):
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> Wow of the best games definitely left me wanting more I wonder if the author in any future will work on any sequel

Yes! He currently is working on a sequel called Wake of the Wyrm. He also has a discord server where there are links to FAQ’s, achievement guides, and Patreon updates if you’re subscribed. The invite code for the server is:

UNKfUxDU5W

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**Author:** ![CreoleGuy519](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/creoleguy519/32/81414_2.png) [@CreoleGuy519](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/CreoleGuy519)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/638 "2021-09-12T16:53:09Z")

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@Norilinde Do you know how to give Vrdanir the ancient sword as a gift ? or just how to initiate his RO route in general ? I bought the sword but I don’t know how to give it away.

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**Author:** ![G98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ee7513/32.png) [@G98](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/G98)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/639 "2021-09-12T17:53:22Z")

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Go to talk whit your council and selec vrdanir, if you have the ancient sword an option should appear to give it to him  
the other romantic scene with him appears if you attack the rebels in the swamps

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**Author:** ![Elemental](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/elemental/32/134281_2.png) [@Elemental](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Elemental)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/641 "2021-09-14T13:00:47Z")

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> [@G98](#):
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> attack the rebels in the swamps

Do not go the swamp that is only way for the ruler of the swamp to give you her vote and take action into your hands and explain your plan to the other rulers at the meeting and I don’t think she will give you the vote if you enter her Kingdom I still don’t why maybe it was a test  
So date vradnir if you are willing to let go of this vote

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**Author:** ![GhostScorch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/ghostscorch/32/46157_2.png) [@GhostScorch](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/GhostScorch)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/642 "2021-09-18T05:52:23Z")

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Regarding Jenneth: Is there no other way to prevent her suicide after defeating the Triple Chalice Chaps, as a male character, than to have a Social skill of at least 60?

Side note: Is there also a way for Sir Bob, Tull, and Ganbert to survive to the end? For me they seem to die when fighting the Abyssal Monster (with the exception of Tull) and at the final battle. Also related, how long can you delay going to Sielcner’s parlay, usually by the time he sends the invitation, I haven’t gone through all of the Court events yet.

Side-Side note: Why does it take a full day to play Cardeed now? I remember it not taking the whole day when I played it back then.

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**Author:** ![12066021](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/12066021/32/117235_2.png) [@12066021](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/12066021)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:30am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/643 "2021-09-18T07:30:26Z")

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I have seen 2 ways of how bob and tull survive

1. Well you can go and figth the abyssal monster without them in that case nameless soldiers will die but not them.

2. Bob is the only one in real danger since the monster grab him so cut him free .

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**Author:** ![Dr.Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Dr.Jones](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Dr.Jones)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 11:17am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/644 "2021-10-23T11:17:56Z")

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Edit: My bad.

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**Author:** ![Bleh99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/bleh99/32/148541_2.png) [@Bleh99](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Bleh99)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/645 "2021-10-23T13:55:56Z")

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How do I save my named soldiers (Ganbert, Red Tull, Bob of Lowblow and Sister Myra) and kill Lord Noyedas upon betraying him on the way to Dullis? I know I can save the mentioned troops in the open battle near Thornwood if I have large numbers and also chase down and duel Noyedas but this is not the case in Dullis. Noyedas escapes and the followers end up dead (even with massive numerical advantage).

Is there a way to save the mentioned troops and kill Noyedas in Dullis or is this scripted purposely?

> [@DOMITOR](#):
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> I think the only way you can duel Noyedas is having more knights on the field.

No, I tried it earlier, training 400 knights by skipping a year but still can’t kill him. However, I was able to kill him with just 80 or so knights at Thornwood.

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**Author:** ![DOMITOR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/domitor/32/217464_2.png) [@DOMITOR](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/DOMITOR)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/646 "2021-10-23T17:59:30Z")

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I think the only way you can duel Noyedas is having more knights on the field.

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**Author:** ![Elemental](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/elemental/32/134281_2.png) [@Elemental](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Elemental)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/647 "2021-10-24T02:42:01Z")

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Does anyone just anyone at all know how to stop the death of the rulers because I still don’t understand how we were not given a choice to investigate and stop the triple chalice when we have that talk in the dream with the dead and they told us about them and even the location of each member

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**Author:** ![DOMITOR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/domitor/32/217464_2.png) [@DOMITOR](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/DOMITOR)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 3:45am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/648 "2021-10-24T03:45:38Z")

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You should do this:  
**The Thirsty Ruler: Joined the Triple Chalice**

_How to get it:_

1 - Go to the Lords Summit and die.

2 - No, seriously. You have to die. You know those silly stories that end with “And it was all just a dream”? This is more or less what happens here. Except it wasn’t just a dream: it was another one of your prophetic visions.

3 - But you have to convince your mind of that first, else it will perish due to the overwhelming psychic backslash of experiencing its own death in such horrific detail.

4 - To do that, you need either Knowledge \> 60 or Social \>= 50, and then pick the right choices. “A lie” will solve most of your problems here.

5 - After that, DON’T warn Lord Dulsen or Lady Sessanah about what is going to happen.

6 - When Daedros comes to talk to you, follow him to a more private location.

7 - Indulge him and eventually accept his offer. Shake his hand at the end.

8 - Congratulations, you’re one of the bad guys now.

This is from Zaper’s achievement guide at his Patreon: [https://www.patreon.com/posts/war-for-west-36295379](https://www.patreon.com/posts/war-for-west-36295379)

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**Author:** ![Elemental](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/elemental/32/134281_2.png) [@Elemental](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Elemental)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 3:51am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/649 "2021-10-24T03:51:38Z")

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So in order to save people for the story I have to become evil  
I feel this is more of a star wars with a little pinch of game of thrones now

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**Author:** ![G98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ee7513/32.png) [@G98](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/G98)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/650 "2021-10-24T13:22:48Z")

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You can save them if you follow that guide to point 5 and decide to warn them what is going to happen. You need a good relation so that they believe you if I’m not wrong

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**Author:** ![GojoSatoru](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/gojosatoru/32/171247_2.png) [@GojoSatoru](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/GojoSatoru)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/651 "2021-12-04T14:39:21Z")

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Is there a way to make the Northern Prince arrive earlier because in my game he always arrive late when after the arranged marriage there’s no option to spend time with your princess wife and just skipped when she’s pregnant with with an heir

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**Author:** ![TheMogician](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/themogician/32/155735_2.png) [@TheMogician](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/TheMogician)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/new-hosted-game-the-war-for-the-west-by-lucas-zaper/68823/652 "2021-12-04T16:51:26Z")

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Save&Load on the hold court events. The prince arrives with the hold court events.

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