# Negative Achievements **URL:** \ **Category:** Game Development\ **Created:** [April 10, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671 "2015-04-10T17:55:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Flurrywinde11](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/flurrywinde11/32/24471_2.png) [@Flurrywinde11](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Flurrywinde11)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/1 "2015-04-10T17:55:31Z")
@dfabulich, I was wondering if negative achievements (i.e. achievements that reduce your score) are possible? I tried it, and it seemed to work, though I think I found a bug. I have 4 achievements, two of which I gave a negative value. Testing them, I achieved the first one, and when I went to the achievement list, it reported that I’d achieved all 4, getting a perfect score. This is the bug. Once I achieved the second negative achievement, however, it behaved properly, reporting only 2 achievements having been achieved. ---
**Author:** ![CJW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/cjw/32/111787_2.png) [@CJW](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/CJW)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/2 "2015-04-10T18:14:07Z")
Is it really an “achievement” if it reduces your score? That’s my thinking. ---
**Author:** ![dfabulich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/dfabulich/32/198373_2.png) [@dfabulich](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/dfabulich)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/3 "2015-04-10T18:20:24Z")
It should have rejected your `*achievement` when you specified a negative number; Apple won’t accept an achievement with a negative score. Remember that there’s no way to unachieve something once it’s achieved, so what you’re describing would be a game in which it would become impossible to get a perfect score if you achieved the “negative” achievements, even if you restart the game. It’s clever, but evil. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![WulfyK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/wulfyk/32/9106_2.png) [@WulfyK](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/WulfyK)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/4 "2015-04-10T19:52:17Z")
Uhmm, It is possible, at least with android. I’ve had all my achievements deleted in Mecha Ace once. I don’t know how and why it happened. ---
**Author:** ![dfabulich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/dfabulich/32/198373_2.png) [@dfabulich](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/dfabulich)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/5 "2015-04-10T20:03:13Z")
I take it back: you can do it by uninstalling and reinstalling the app. But, still. ---
**Author:** ![Flurrywinde11](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/flurrywinde11/32/24471_2.png) [@Flurrywinde11](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Flurrywinde11)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/6 "2015-04-10T20:48:43Z")
It didn’t reject the negative achievements, so maybe I have an older version? Anyway, I’ll use stats to do what I wanted to do. Just thought I’d ask and report the bug! ---
**Author:** ![Doctor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/doctor/32/29886_2.png) [@Doctor](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Doctor)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/7 "2015-04-10T20:52:51Z")
Maybe you should call them… Decheivements ---
**Author:** ![WulfyK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/wulfyk/32/9106_2.png) [@WulfyK](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/WulfyK)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/8 "2015-04-10T21:03:36Z")
I haven’t deinstalled the game. The achievements simply disappeared one day. ---
**Author:** ![dfabulich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/dfabulich/32/198373_2.png) [@dfabulich](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/dfabulich)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/9 "2015-04-10T21:14:31Z")
That’s… not expected. ---
**Author:** ![WulfyK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/wulfyk/32/9106_2.png) [@WulfyK](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/WulfyK)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/10 "2015-04-10T21:30:15Z")
Indeed. But it wasn’t a big problem, I’ve won them again since. ---
**Author:** ![WulfyK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/wulfyk/32/9106_2.png) [@WulfyK](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/WulfyK)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/12 "2015-04-11T15:48:05Z")
No, I didn’t do anything. ---
**Author:** ![QondasDyablo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/qondasdyablo/32/89801_2.png) [@QondasDyablo](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/QondasDyablo)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 7:46am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/negative-achievements/8671/13 "2015-04-12T07:46:41Z")
My version of Sabres of Infinity has yet to give me a single achievement. I’ve tried deinstalling and reinstalling and nothing seems to work.