More transgender options in the cog/hosted games?

[Razgriz]

Ah, I see. What a straightforward answer! And one that makes perfect sense as well. Thank you, Lith.

[Eiwynn]

@Razgriz

Did we join a war that’s going on?

With the “bathroom wars” happening in America, it seems a new cultural war is indeed being fought…

[Razgriz]

Thought that one ended already. It’s hard to keep up with it these days.

[Eiwynn]

@Razgriz

Thought that one ended already. It’s hard to keep up with it these days.

Oh no. The NCAA and ACC college organizations just pulled their big tournaments from North Carolina in protest of that law still being enforced. The court system is just now starting to gather all the cases and litigation together - expect to see the Supreme Court weigh in after the election.

[FairyGodfeather]

@Bagelthief

Thinking back, wasn’t FG supposed to have a stern chat with you about that? Did he ever get around to that?.

I did speak about it. I do agree, that it’s not right to victim blame people just because they’re angry. I do not blame you for being angry, particularly not with all the terrible things you’ve been through.

We’d also an extensive discussion in the staff forum surrounding the subject of anger, righteous or not. @DFabulich himself made an excellent post.

@Bagelthief

I don’t want to sit on my ass all day explaining, sourcing, being demure to every single cis person ever, whether or not they mean well. I am sick of it and I am sick of the cis 99.9% expecting me to cater to them. I am so tired. I am so tired of existing in this world.

I think you’re justified in this. I know you already do a lot of helping people on the forum and explaining things. Listen to the positive things people have had to say about you. All of us value your presence here and your input.

@LanaRose

I love having this discussion with you. You’re intelligent and passionate both, which are two very amazing qualities to have. Heck, just before my post you were tirelessly helping Iris. That’s awesome!

Lotus put that really well.

I think that it’s perfectly within your rights to just say no, I don’t want to do that, or that you’ll just do it on your own terms. You definitely don’t owe anyone anything.

You volunteer enough of your time into helping others and you are allowed to have boundaries, especially when they protect you.

And I’m not meaning this post as an attempt to drag you back into the discussion, so there is no need to respond.

[Lithophene]

@FairyGodfeather, if I may, as someone who’s been observing the thread from the outside, I noted mostly a lack of (visible) intervention on behalf of the moderators. I witnessed multiple rules being broken and yet nothing being done… Why? If I went in-depth over the ordeals I’ve personally gone through, do I receive a free pass? If I share with the forum that I was physically and emotionally abused as a child, bullied and harassed by schoolmates and family to the point of attempting suicide (twice), nearly disowned for coming out as gay, and spent most of my teenage years terrified of being another dead gay kid on the news to be laughed at, am I exempt from the rules? I’m 22 now and I’m still goddamn terrified of holding hands with a partner in public. Am I then allowed to start calling people out, make them uncomfortable, and proceed to taunt them because I’m being blunt, the world’s a harsh place, and people just need to suck it up and deal with it? I mean, that’s totally acceptable behavior, right?

(Please excuse the emoji, but I have to make a point. The ends do not justify the means.)

[Lithophene]

@RedRoses, I’m afraid you might’ve misinterpreted my post. I believe all users should be held accountable if they breach the forum rules.

[FairyGodfeather]

Just to note, if you have a problem with any of the moderators decisions or actions please feel free to talk to us privately about it. Even when it seems like we’re doing nothing that’s often not the case.

We’re all unpaid volunteers. We cannot be on every thread at every time. We do rely on you forum members to let us know if there’s trouble brewing.

If you see a user causing trouble, being offensive, then please flag their posts. Do not engage them. The beauty of Discourse software is that if you’ve high enough standing on the forum it only takes a couple of your flags to hide a post. Plus it will bring to our attention that there’s problems going on, so we can also step in if needed.

If you don’t want to flag, for whatever reason, or your flag didn’t get the desired response, you can also send us all a private message. I think the flag option “something else” also lets you send a message along with the flag so you can use that too. The message appears next to the flag, and also in all of our staff inboxes.

[Laguz]

And since I can’t actually find the edit button since my post has again been flagged, I’m going to ask, how many trans people are actually okay with me sharing my experience the way I do and how many think I should be banned for this?

Because so far, it seems like me, Lotus, and Roses, who all understand my anger if not agree with it, are versus a plethora of cis people, Wire, Snoe, and… this… new person who keeps multiaccounting.

If the mods want to ban me I will totally understand. I have gotten in a lot of arguments. I was the first person here who requested trans nb options in hosted and COG games. In the end, why not poll? The word of the people, after all. I’ll bow out if enough people want me gone. You’ll never see me here again, disrupting everything, I promise.

[Sashira]

This thread has gone way off-topic from its original intent. I’m closing it while the mods and staff discuss what to do.

We’re like an ant hill. Just because you don’t see movement doesn’t mean we aren’t at work.