Lords of Infinity

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#4930

Is it?

I mean, Stalin was planning to invade Hitler at the same time, and anti-communism was a basic pillar of Nazism.

There’s no necessary part of liberal democracy that demands that communism must be opposed through force. It’s not like Locke ever said “oh yeah, and if these Communist guys ever show up, kidnap them and throw them out of helicopters”.

Containment wasn’t a policy core to the ideology underpinning American democracy. It was possible (and I’d argue, preferable) to use other methods of defending American interests.

I mean, on an ideological level, Social Democracy as an ideology is entirely built around the idea of co-opting socialist policy goals to maintain a liberal democratic system.

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#4931

“France and Britain can hold out until 1944 where my military should fix itself after I shot all my best commanders.”

1940

“Oh crap. Now who is going to stop these Prussian Marshals?”

He really did think that it was the Prussian general staff who did it and that Hitler would stop it.

Tragic mistake.

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#4932

“Where are all of my good officers? Tukhachevskiy?”
“You had him shot, Vozhd”.
“Belov?”
“You had him shot.”
“Yakir?”
“You had him shot.”
“Rokossovskiy?”
You had him sho- oh wait, no, you only had him tortured for three years, he’s still alive.”

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#4933

The funny part is not even a meme it was worse than that.

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#4934

“I never thought the leopards would eat my face!” says man who supplied gigantic amounts of war materiel and half of Poland to the National Socialist Leopards Eating Peoples’ Faces Party.

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#4935

“Voroshilov and Budyonny are the only Marshals I trust to get anything done.”

Kiev and Leningrad

“Okay so maybe I should look elsewhere. Timonshenko, Zhukov, and Konev. You’re up.”

Nervous gulping.

Orders offensive right before Case Blue against the recommendation of everyone who knows what’s going on.

“ZHUKOV YOU IDIOT WHY COULDN’T YOU WIN?”

“Because you made me launch a broad front attack against a superior force with generals who are learning how to command field armies in a combined arms doctrine?”- Said internally because Stalin was looking for an excuse to have someone shot.

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#4936

All was fine until you appeared in a photo with the illustrious leader. I wonder how many times they quit people from photos during Stalin’s time

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#4937

Another fun fact about what I mentioned was that Zhukov suggested a limited offensive to encircle and destroy a portion of the German armies.

“The orders for the general offensive have been issued.”

“Then why did you ask for our opinion?”

Soviet generals and armament officials internally scream.

The Shock Trooper Commanders try to save up whatever food they can find to give their men one good meal before the launch off date.

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#4938

That, combined with Rokossovskiy putting his foot down in insisting two breakthrough areas for Bagration kind of reminds me of the old joke about Stalin and the man who sneezed.

“I insist on two breakthrough areas, Vozhd!”
“Who said that?”
silence
“Guards, first row, have them shot.”
sounds of gunfire
“Now, who said that?”
silence
“Guards, second row, have them shot.”
sounds of gunfire
“Now, who said that?”
“Please forgive me, but I did, Vozhd.”
“Ah, well… good idea, Konstantin Konstantinovich.”

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#4939

I swear due my grumpyness and prone to jump i won’t last five seconds in front Stalin without being killed

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#4940

Part of it was that Rokossovsky convinced himself that Stalin didn’t know he was imprisoned. He would always say that it was some rogue NKVD agent who did it.

Part of it was probably to make sure he didn’t blame Stalin for it publicly. Another because he didn’t want to go back to an NKVD camp.

@Cossack_Highlander: yes.

@Cataphrak: “The German army is a machine, and machines can be broken!“- Konstantin Rokossovsky.

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#4941

Didn’t he supposedly keep a revolver on him at all times after his release, cause he said he would never let them take him alive again?

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#4942

I still love how both the Germans and Russians used cavalry. “Alright we’ll go around and attack their supplies and cut their communications the good ole fashioned way. With horses.”

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#4943

When you’re fighting in a country with crappy road and rail networks, you work with the tools that best suit the conditions you find yourself in.

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#4944

If we’re telling Soviet jokes…

Three Soviet officers travel in the same room in a long distance sleeper train. One guy is reading a newspaper, while the other two tell political anecdotes. The first guy decides to prank them. He steps out, and orders three cups of tea to be brought in their room in exactly 10 minutes. Then he comes back into the room, sits down and says after 9 minutes:

“You know, you should not really be telling political anecdotes just like that. KGB has every room wiretapped here.”

“Come on, it’s bullshit. Nothing to worry about” - answer the guys.

“No no, KGB really hears everything you are saying. Here, let me show you.”

The guys snaps his fingers and says: “Comrade Major, three cups of tea, please!”

In a few seconds, train staff bring the tea in.

The two guys are totally shocked. They shut up quickly. Soon, all three go to bed.

Next morning the pranker wakes up alone in the room. He goes out and asks the train staff where those two guys went.

“Oh, KGB took them last night.”

The guy asks, totally terrified: “How come they let me off?!”

The train staff answer: “Well, Comrade Major really like your tea prank!”

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#4945

Wait what ? I didn’t know that. I thought the last significant time cavalry was used was by the Polish at the beginning of WWII

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#4946

I think German Cavalry was called Prussian Cavalry in the old days

http://www.napolun.com/mirror/napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Prussian_cavalry_Napoleon.htm

As refer to the article, the Prussian Cavalry appear to be the best cavalry at that time, making even Napolean’s French running with his tail between his legs :wink:

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#4947

I mean, a combination of bad roads and a serious bottleneck in terms of motorised vehicles will do that.

I’ve always found it interesting how the Vyazma Operation was supposed to be paratroopers relieved by mounted troops: air cav being supported by ground cav.

It didn’t work of course, but I suppose the optics were good until the Germans wiped them out in Operation Hannover.

This one’s a mainstay in my circle of friends. Sometimes, we’ll randomly knock on armoires or cabinets while we’re drinking and loudly go “TWO COFFEES PLEASE, MAJOR” in a bad Russian accent.

I laugh, my friends laugh, the Chekist in the cabinet laughs good times.

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#4948

“The constant bombing and shelling of the hill (Mamayev) disrupted the Russian communications, so under fire they moved the command post from the hill to the Tsaritsa Gorge command post. Chuikov had no food that day. his lunch was being cooked in a hut on the side of the hill when the hut was wrecked by a German bomb. The cook then tried to get food from a field kitchen, but the field kitchen was also destroyed by a bomb.” (Hoyt, 1993).

You know, just normal Soviet things.

“You were close enough to have your lunch blown up?”- US Generals.

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#4949

I would give much to learn how the cook explained that series of events to his commanding officer…

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