Is the Six Earl the MC in the Third installment? I am sorry that I ask so much I just love your game!
Hammer of Norwall title is from the… first tournament you can do. If I remember properly, it’s been a while since I played, you have to be extremely good at fighting, and, while I can’t remember the precise wording of the option, I can give you the effect… basically help your team win (or, as I like to think of it, winning on your own) just by using your combat skills. If you can do this extremely extremely well, you get the Hammer of Norwall title.
can you give me a jist of the plot of part 2?.. i read something about the mc not the twin that rules astwick but the one sent to the holy see?.. how can i be the “lord” of astwick if i’m gonna be a priest?.. i literally avoided getting involved in the church and stuff in ck2, got a few excommunications for not joining crusades when i’ve got my hands full thwarting rival lords and vikings and such to bother with them, just a hefty gold payment… whats the consensus of the people/fans here?.. are they ok with it?.. shrug, reminds me of the time mgs2 swapped snake for the girly raiden…
while i am somewhat interested too see where a story about a priest could go into.
personally i would love too be the 6th lord of astwick and seeing how i can build up my legacy
that said, seeing what one could get up as the second son in the priesthood would be a intresting story for all the ways church and king/lord interacted with one and other in that time.
talking firebrand or not
raving fighting loony or political player
more intrested in church power or spreading the faith.
one could go a lot of ways with this.
Yeah, I’m not thrilled about being a member of the clergy. Papal politics just don’t interest me.
@daemonofrazgriz821, @Bob_Rijke, @Bryce_Kaldwin,
The second story will take place during a time where religious institutions are trying to keep a grip on their power, while Kings and Parliaments are trying to distribute those powers to themselves.
The protagonist, your character, will be twin to the heir of Aswick, and because of the way nobility works both twins will be Lords of Aswick in their own right until certain other circumstances. Technically, joining the church would remove the title of Lord, but that doesn’t diminish your position as a noble.
Roughly half of the story will revolve around your position in Norwall. You will be sent to a religious institution, you will learn what the monks and/or priests teach you, you will eventually become an adult and able to enter the church politics. You will be able to wrangle your way to certain church positions and use that power to run your own agenda, whomever that agenda may side with. Perhaps you’ll condemn a rival noble house with your preaching, or perhaps you will gain the favour of those above you by conducting yourself more carefully. You may either solidify your place in the lower tiers of the church, or continue to rise through the hierarchy by playing your cards right.
Ultimately, your path will continue to the Holy Seat, where you find an entrenched set of older, powerful men and their families. The latter half of the story is about managing your way through that set of powerpolitics, which may bring entire nations to odds, and perhaps in the end you can find yourself in an ultimate position of power. Perhaps an Archbishop back home, standing almost equal to the King of Norwall, or as the Holy Father, sitting on a gilded throne and wielding the Word of God against those who would step in your way.
There’s the sales pitch for the second LoA. This series, from the moment I came up with it, revolved around a few select themes that I really wanted to explore in depth. Themes that many people, modes of popular media and history books just don’t delve into.
The first story was about a society of power and what monarchies of the era were really like. You could have a good King, but have those in the court who wanted them out of the picture, have a bad King and have those that would still lick their boots, have a weak King and find those who truly ruled the Kingdom standing behind them. It was about the issue of legitimacy as well, where who rules the country is not about what blood runs in your veins or about the will of a dead King, it’s about having the most supporters and the biggest army, or being able to outsmart your enemies to make yourself the biggest and most powerful.
The second story will be about the position of religion in that same society of power, where Kings and nobility are ruthless in their desire for power, but there still stands this entity above them, an entity that is spread across all Kingdoms, and which holds greater power than Emperors. At some point, the rising ambition of Kings and the church will meet, and that chaos is what the second story is about.
The third one will explore the themes of colonialism and exploitation, a shifting time where merchants became more important in society. As new lands could be conquered and exploited, it brought power, prestige and riches to whomever could bring the most back to the Kings and Emperors. It also deals with the clash of cultures between those living in these new lands and those arriving from the old kingdoms.
The fourth, if I ever get that far, will probably end up being another clash of traditional sects. With the advancement of the enlightenment period, there is an inevitable clash between the nobility and the bourgeoisie. Between those who rule lands in name, and those who rule the land in practice.
Bringing in alternate viewpoints is very important to how these themes are examined. If the viewpoint remains constantly the same, it is far too easy to lull yourself to the belief that everything is an outside threat. The family has earned it’s nobility and it’s land, now those others are trying to threaten that. The stories take place in times when the status quo is being shaken from both sides, and it depends entirely on the viewpoint and the outcome on who was the “bad guy” in all of it.
If that does not interest you, it is your prerogative to not purchase or read the story when it eventually comes out. I will provide tools to fill in the major blanks if you want to skip one.
As the one who spends a fair bit of time to work on these stories, I would hope that you at least give it a go before dismissing it entirely, but I understand that some people don’t find the same things fascinating as I do.
Wow, that was one hell of a sales pitch. I’ll admit, at first I wasn’t too excited to play as a priest, but it’s easy to forget just how powerful the church is, both in our history and your world, and how much power they possess, power that could eventually be yours.
It will certainly be interesting to see how the politics of religion play out in the next game.
will you be able to be a inquisitor type character or a tolerant and kind man
will there be an inquisition at least?.. i’d like to burn a few people… haha… i think there was a time that the pope and ruler of HRE were relatives or something, maybe i could help my brother thru the church if i become the pope, i mean holy father (lannister ideals much? evil smile)… i will say this though, i loved your first game, sunk hours on end trying to get my “canon” MC, then made a mod for myself in ck2 (maybe that made me stick to the idea that LOA would be a dynastic realm lord game) , thus i will give this second game a chance, and if i end up not liking it, i would not be mad since by buying said game, i helped a talented author… hey, atleast thru this i could experience in a sense what would it be like to wield that much power…
There will be an Inquisition somewhere. There will definitely be heretics even without being involved with an inquisition. You can end up a firebrand preacher telling people to burn the heretics, or you can be a bit more tolerant towards everyone. I’m not promising that there will be a fully developed path that involves you in the Inquisition, but there’s a chance for it.
Also, I’ve stated before that you will be able to help and influence the Earldom through your status in the church. The option to undermine your brother will also be there, if some are inclined toward that sort of thing.
Even in CK2 you can put your family members on the road to a church career. It’s a bit more difficult to get done and it’s unlikely they ever rise higher than the bishop you put them as, but you can try it.
I’ve done it on multiple occasions.
Have to ask but is there a way to win the crusade.
Hey will thier be any romances in the next game I would suggest more if you are adding romance cause in the first one I loved all the romance and wishes there was more.
@Cosmic To win in a way where there remains a crusader state? No. To win in a way where your Holy Order remains relevant and powerful? Yes. The support for the Crusade just isn’t there to enable even a military standstill.
@Misa101 The focus will be much more on inter-personal relationships than it was in the first one, that’s for sure. That will have an impact on any relationships that get included. There will also be certain rules within the clergy when it comes to relations, which will throw in a few curveballs that you will need to avoid.
Also I’ve gotten my guy to 70 valour and got the help of my wife and Stephen is still not king can you tell me what I’m doing wrong
It’s likely that you just need more allies. Either that, or you have too poor land and/or too low courtesy to have enough of the court side with you.
Thank you that’s really helpfull I hope your other project is going well I play the demo regularly.
Ok I have to ask dose luccia(sorry I spelled her name wrong) ever love you and can you have 2 children with her.
Question there will be spoilers with this question of you marry Lucia and don’t show her the letter will her family be killed and will your son inherit. I never was able to tell.
Whooee, it’s been a while. Had to go through some old notes to make sure I wasn’t pulling this completely out of thin air.
If you have a son, your son inherits your lands. As for Sterling, your son holds only a fairly remote claim to those lands, and even in the most brutal situation Lucia’s entire family isn’t slaughtered.
It’s not clearly stated who survived and who didn’t of the Druiloch family, but there are definitely survivors there. More if you gave them some kind of warning, less if you didn’t. Most of the killing did affect only the commoners though. They were the ones who got suddenly pillaged in the assault. The nobles would’ve been in various easily defensible locations by default.