Let's Talk About Movies!


#22

For me it’s a toss up between Deliver us and When you believe. All this talk I think i’ll go binge listen to some of the songs :grinning:


#23

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#24

My top five in no particular order:

  • Blade Runner
  • The Fountain
  • The Matrix
  • Immortel (Ad Vitam)
  • John Wick

#25

May I ask what you thought of The Fountain? I´ve binge-watched some Aronofsky recently, but that`s one I haven’t gotten around to yet.


#26

It’s taking time to come out in my country, but I hope to see it soon.


#27

@122BCooper Do you watch your movies at the cinema or on Hulu/Netflix/Amazon prime?


#28

Cinema if I can, on DVD if I can’t. How about you?


#29

Mostly on Netflix/Hulu don’t really like watching movies at the cinema unless if it’s with mum/friends.


#30

It’s such a beautiful movie and the soundtrack is just as beautiful; I was sobbing my eyes out by the end. I guess the most important thing to know is it’s the story is told with three “time periods” and “isn’t linear” although I think both are subjective. I really don’t want to spoil anything and I’m not really sure how to give my thoughts on it without spoilers, sorry for being vague and not very useful. So hard not to write a long run-on sentence about it. :sweat:


#31

I just watched Swiss army man and it was… It was something.


#32

You can write about spoilers [ spoiler ]like this, but without the spaces[ /spoiler ]. Feel free to, and I’ll read (and probably respond to) what you write once I´ve seen the movie.

Nah, that was useful. Thanks! It sounds a little like Cloud Atlas?


#33

I knew about the spoiler tags, I didn’t mean to confuse you about that, sorry. It’s a movie I love to death and I don’t want to influence others’ opinions before they watch it. It probably sounds silly, but I even consider the soundtrack a spoiler. :sweat_smile:

At it’s very basic core it’s a love story and Hugh Jackman plays one of the two main characters.That’s as spoiler-y as I’ll get without the spoiler tags.

[spoiler]As simply as I can put it: I feel it’s about death and the acceptance of it and to some subjective extent reincarnation and enlightenment.

In a ‘the future and past actually happened’ way, Tom began the Tree’s death by stabbing it. Tom and his wife are reincarnated. His present self contributed to it’s death by discovering the bark’s ability to prevent death. Tom’s wife dies, but he doesn’t. In the future he’s dedicated to getting the Tree to the nebula before it dies and barely makes it. In the end, the Tree is reborn and Tom and his wife are reunited in death and live on together in eternity.

In a ‘the future is a metaphor and the past is a story written by Tom’s dying wife’ way, Tom devotes his time to trying to save his wife. His wife writes a story about a conquistador to come to terms with death, but dies before she can finish it. Her dying wish is for Tom to finish it. The future is a metaphor for Tom’s struggle to accept his wife’s condition and her death. When the Tree is reborn Tom is finally able to accept her death.[/spoiler]

I hardly remember watching it, but I think so? Two of the time periods are highly subjective. I’ve read reviews on Netflix that said they didn’t understand it and there’s even a video that puts the movie in a linear timeline. The latter diminishes the value of the story the movie is trying to tell, if you ask me.


#34

I also love the fountain, such a beautiful film.
But I think that the story works a little different:

(BIG SPOILERS, INCLUDING ENDING)

[spoiler]Tommy’s wife, Izzy, has cancer. Tommy is doing research in order to cure that type of cancer, and he tries something with a strange tree of South America. Tommy’s wife gets worse although she is accepting it, then she dies. The experiment with the tree shows positive results. Then Tommy realizes that there’s a parallelism between the tree of Izzy’s story and the real tree, so he thinks that the part about a tree being able of hold the spirit of a dead person and a star being able to resurrect people might also be true.

Then he plants a tree in Izzy’s grave and builds a spaceship in order to reach the star. However, the tree dies before he gets there but he finally learns to accept Izzy’s death and his own as the dying star explodes.[/spoiler]

As I see it, the story actually takes place in the “future”, the “present” is a flashback and the “past” is a fictional story, working as a framing device.

And about the theme of the film I also agree that is about the acceptance of death

[spoiler]It is a powerful message how Izzy accepts death and, in facing the idea of death, she comes to a different understanding of the universe where the boundaries between her and everything else become thinner.

However Tommy is afraid of mortality and the death of his loved ones, so the idea of Izzy saying “finish it” and Tommy answering “I don’t know how it ends” shows how Tommy’s fear doesn’t allow him to find confot in the idea of death or seeing that Izzy has a different perpective about it.

In each of the three stories of the film, Tom starts a quest, in one he is sent by his queen, in other he is working to cure Izzy’s cancer and in the other one he is trying to resurrect her. In each of these quest he’s haunted by death, in the forms of the Spanish inquisitor, cancer and time. And, at the end of each quest, he finds what he was looking for, but not as how he imagined it.

Tommy realizes that he can’t save Izzy’s live, because she didn’t need saving, he accepts mortality as a natural part of life and therefore, in death he finds eternal life.[/spoiler]

I love how the fountain deals with the concept of death with all that hope. Most movies that have a message of “accepting” death in a form of “Do not mess with the natural order”, but few show an idea of actual acceptance and even comfort in the nature of death, and not denying the obscure and misterious idea of a concept that we can barely try to comprehend until we face it.

This is also part of the reason why I love more human and sympathetic depictions of death or the grim reaper.


#35

Went to a friend’s house today, planning to watch Son of Saul, we couldn’t, so we ended up watching and discussing La Dolce Vita, which I had already seen before. It was a good time.


#36

Watched The Interview yesterday. Funny as heck and James Franco is a way better comedian than I thought he was, but I can see why they elected to avoid pissing off North Korea by showing it at the cinema. Sony got a lot of shit for it with the leaks.

My cinema map for 2017 is all pretty much set out anyway. It’s fair to say there are a lot of Cinematic Universes being established now. Of course Marvel Studios leads the charge with Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume 2, Spider-Man: Homecoming and Thor: Ragnarok, but there’s also DC with Wonder Woman and Justice League, Fox’s X-Men with Logan, the Monster Universe with Kong: Skull Island, the ‘other’/Universal Monster Universe with The Mummy, Transformers:The Last Knight kickstarting a new wave of Transformers films… and that’s not including sequels for Star Wars, Alien, Cars, Pirates of the Carribean, Planet of the Apes, Blade Runner and more. Our wallets are going to be pretty pained this year.


#37

Just thought I’d include this, one of my favorite tributes to modern movies and their heroes.


#38

Y’know, yesterday I read that Paul Thomas Anderson is making a new film.

Starring Daniel Day Lewis.


#39

Watched Embrace of the Serpent yesterday. It’s well written and beautifully shot, unlike many movies coming out nowadays. I should remember David Gallego’s wonderful cinematography, who adds a lot of weight to the scenes. the music, as well, Embrace is a deliberately slow film and the sounds are marked mostly by insects and bitds chirping. When music does come (and it only does two or so times) it adds a special substance to a scene.


#40

Even though I haven’t read any Daphne du Maurier book yet (I make it a point to read the book before watching the movie , if I can), My Cousin Rachel (1952) was in a rec thread on the message boards in the IMDb page of The Innocents (Or was it The Carnival of Souls?), so I gave it a shot. And it was glorious. There are so many different interpretations on the characters, especially on the eponymous Cousin. Mystery was never solved, too. And the costumes! Period costume porn galore, as was the norm during the Golden Age. Olivia de Havilland, why must you be so pretty?

There’s also a remake, to be shown sometime this year, starring Sam Claflin and Rachel Weisz (lol, Rachel playing Rachel). I was a bit iffed that the trailer did not show the revenge plot and made it look like a straight up period romance…with cousin incest. But eh, looks okay-ish, I guess. I’ll withhold judgement until it’s released, or until a better trailer comes out.


#41

Just saw Nightcrawler.

Jake´s was a refreshing portrayal of a sociopath (or psychopath? I´m never sure). But he wasn´t the only sociopathic character there; it´d been interesting to see if he could have suceeded if he hadn´t been working with Nina.

And Whiplash, again.

What do you think? Was Fletcher´s approach justified, from an “achieving greatness” perspective?