That is what I worried about, I like them together alright but i really don’t want for Javier to be stuck in a rather toxic relationship if queen victoria just end up use him 
I also wondering if they actually have child before mc
That just disgusting though 
Don’t worry Javier, while a bit to forgiving and somewhat idealistic (in my opinion) is a rather sharp fellow 
In addition Victoria is anything but subtle when it comes to speech.
I hope he not refrain from doing anything since he care to the ones he love, if that do happen and he actually noticed. And i must agree that he idealistic, although more acceptance than andus
Same thing can be said to King Andus
I feel the same way about love/hate relationships. But people have the right to like what they like. I’ve read/watched stuff that teased at pairing only to introduce some factor that made the relationship unacceptable so they could push the character at a specific girl. Much worse than even the grossness of victim/abuser relationships.
hey at least my wars help to make the thread famous
1- b-but I am the good guy! 
2- who do you think?..it’s was me…
I am the anti-hero musketer XD
Andus doesn’t have to worry about his or Marxus’s head ending up on the chopping block if his machinations get discovered, Victoria does. Also Andus can at least keep quite when it suits him, but Victoria can’t hold back the declaration that you’ll be king after the conversation with Jerome.
Oh, I agree. It is just our beloved Madame Chaos styles herself as a female GRRM from the Philippines. Therefore, I am leaving out no possible GRRM tropes. Incest is coming, we just do not know from where. 
I’m not writing that part.
Winter Is Coming
Reinhardt and Marxus confirmed 
True that
Yeah still though, I think his allies disapprove him of it although they can’t do anything for now. I can’t help but feel that Darvis have more chance of having traitor because of that.
Well, good thing she already confirm not going to do that
As in this game or is that Games of Thrones?
Thank you for filling in the blanks for everyone else. I didn’t want to do that. 
Haha at your service 
yup cause id feel bad for killing her loved one ( even if andus deserve it, i want her to be happy 
about javi i dont really mind ship her with him, but id rather you take my idea about an old friend of her (a lesb girl) that love her since childhood and never told Vicky her feelings because of Andus…
1600 post more , except you and maybe sophia ( many others spamm a lot like vergil, augustus so comparing my 260 of resumed post with those of random spam, memes and unrelated massages is not fair )
I feel your pain there. It’s like I’m on the outside looking in at the top posters.
Uhhh…sorry I was being sarcastic
It’s okay. I’m normally wouldn’t have been so touchy but it’s been a few bad days of what first looked like a good week. No hard feelings. 
Victoria x Javier: Vicavier?
Javier x Victoria: Javtoria?
Meh… both sound juvenile and lack any linguistic spark. Contrast that with ‘Karamel’ (Kara zor El x Mon El), now that speaks tenderness and chemistry; so to start of… the very name for the ship between Queen Victoria and Ser Javier sounds, well bad.
Speculation:
But storywise it does seem to fit okay into the narrative - no doubt Victoria was once smitten by the epitome of medieval masculinity that was the Warrior King Andus, but to him she was a shallow alternative to her twin sister Sabrinia (curse her name) and his true love the peasant Aless (damn that seductress).
Neglected of his affections she turns to Ser Javier, who while no where near the level of Andus (pff he can’t even beat a female knight like Clithus) would still make for an attractive alternative since he is a knight. It was probably not romantic love that Victoria felt, Javier was a proxy for something she couldn’t have, thus for her the relationship might have simply been a sexual utility, since she does seem cold towards him while Javier himself seems subservient.
Its possible he has developed genuine unrequited feelings for her, his initial relationship might have been sparked by pity for her sadness.
On the possibility of him being the MC’s biological father… well that just adds an extra layer of creepiness to that deleted Will You Marry Me easter egg from the original demo. For all his faults I still prefer for Andus to be the MC’s biological father (inherit the blood of Darius and legitimate claim to throne) while Javier serving as a surrogate role.
In conclusion while there is some subtext to indicate the plausibility of an illicit relationship between Victoria and Javier, it should only come about if it serves some purpose towards advancing plot or character development, otherwise just remaining a simple fan theory.
Also I’m not sure how my MC would feel about it… his father figure (Javier) in a relationship with his cunning and possibly sinister mother (whom he still loves).
Haha, Wala gyud ko nakatuo pag basa nako na bisaya ka te! 
Damm 123 relies did i miss a RO war?
No not RO wars, it’s many because