# Keeper of Day and Night (Update Post 1932)

**URL:** <https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499>\
**Category:** Works In Progress\
**Tags:** nonbinary-inclusive, gender-choice, modern-fantasy, young-adult-fiction\
**Created:** [February 23, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499 "2019-02-23T02:07:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WA2000](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/wa2000/32/62856_2.png) [@WA2000](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/WA2000)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/101 "2019-02-24T20:01:57Z")

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> [@daydreamsincolor](#):
>
> Not all of the subplots are problem-based (off of the top of my head, Altair, Astrid, Cressida, Cyrus, and Seraphina all have non-problem-based subplots).

I mean yeah but that still leaves Katia’s lost past and probably subplot of how the Nypmh secretary’s brainwashed her into blissful obedience, Kol Finding true shifters like him, which looking back I’m pretty sure I remember him mentioning it longingly in Kitsune shifter training, Leon Dealing with the death of his sister which not only shattered his idea of having children but seemingly emotionally damaged his family even years later, Yakov’s Literal assassins that want to kill him, the dangers of which makes it seem like they’ve been after him most his life having him push other people away for fear they’d get hurt., Thalia’s Kill or be killed family with sirens instict seemily warping and degrading any familial love that could develop into cynicism and ruthlessness which is probably just the best case with Thalia and even worse for her family and I know people don’t like Davina but there’s Seraphina Treating her pschologically and helping undo the brainwashing and programing from Magic as well as social conditioning. Even if she’s disliked, the thought that somebody’s mind might be warped from damage from either compulsion magic or just an abusive relationship with a demon leaves a bad taste in my mind. At least half of the relatonship subplots seem pretty serious overall also you didn’t answer if the characters’d be alright if left on their own. Probably it’s just that I’m being a pussy but a big part of me loves all the characters and I really want everybody to be happy.

> [@daydreamsincolor](#):
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> It depends on the hunter in question. MC’s parents have dabbled in hunting in the past, and have brushed up on some skills after MC’s declared a keeper, but they wouldn’t consider themselves serious hunters.

For some reason when I read this monster hunting sounds like a perfectly normal hobby that anybody can get into like fishing or camping and not some incredibly dangerous activity. Like some dude’s talking about his hobbies and just goes “Ohh yeah I dabble in a lot of things Origami, Baking sometimes I travel cross state to kill wild magical monsters that terrories small towns”

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**Author:** ![Gwenstn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/gwenstn/32/186781_2.png) [@Gwenstn](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Gwenstn)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/102 "2019-02-24T21:32:52Z")

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While we’re discussing that, I’d love the option to pretend you don’t know french to see what’s said about you while they think you can’t understand them. Though it feels like it’d be hard to implement clearly, if I’m being honest.

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**Author:** ![RagEgnite](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/ragegnite/32/140357_2.png) [@RagEgnite](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/RagEgnite)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/103 "2019-02-24T21:51:45Z")

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Why the hell have I only discovered this just today? I feel like I already missed a significant portion of the progress even if the thread just barely has over 100 posts as of now. 😭

> **Some notes**
>
> - If we decide to set stats directly, will we also have an option to determine how optimistic/pessimistic we are in general, or does that stat not affect anything important as of now?
> 
> - When you have the option to make your opinion on how you feel about being the next keeper, you can mention that it’s a “fact of life that makes no sense whatsoever considering I’m human.” Is this going to be addressed at some point, or has it already been addressed in the previous game?
> 
> > [@daydreamsincolor](#):
> >
> > At the moment, the plan is for MC to be able to introduce one of the mains to their family.
> 
> - Technically you can already do that in the demo as-is if you’re dating Seraphina, even if it’s not under the best circumstances and it’s mentioned off-handedly.
> 
> > [@daydreamsincolor](#):
> >
> > And for the French advice. Will not be doing any more scenes in another language in the near future 😅
> 
> > A half-smile plays on her lips. “Tu n’as pas la conviction que je puisse?”
> 
> - “Do you not have the conviction that I can?”
> 
> > “Vraiment, je ne parle pas le français.”
> 
> - “Truly, I can’t speak French.”
> 
> > “J’ai la conviction. Elle était seulement une question.”
> 
> - “I have the conviction. It was only one question.”
> 
> > “C’est vrai que nous n’avons pas parlé de Katia récemment…”
> 
> - “It’s true that we haven’t spoken to Katia recently…”
> 
> > “Tu agis vraiment comme une enfante.”
> 
> - “You act very much like a baby.”
> 
> > “Tu as parlé beaucoup avec Seraphine l’année prochaine?”
> 
> - “Have you spoken a lot with Seraphina this next year?”
> 
> > “Quelquefois. Mais vraiment elle ne comprenait pas le point.”
> 
> - “Sometimes. But really she has not included the point.”  
> (Did you mean to use **_comprendre_**?)
> 
> > “Tous nos colocataires parlent l’anglais. Ce n’est pas nécessaire de parler dans une autre langue.”
> 
> - “All of our roommates speak English. It’s not necessary to speak in another language.”
> 
> > “Vous parlez de Katia dans le français donc elle ne peut pas vous comprendre?”
> 
> - “You talk about Katia in French so she can’t understand you?”
> 
> > “Il est toujours amusant.”
> 
> - “It’s always fun.”
> 
> * * *
> 
> A couple things got lost in translation I feel like, but overall you did pretty well. 😙

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**Author:** ![lokidemon007](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/lokidemon007/32/5596_2.png) [@lokidemon007](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/lokidemon007)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/104 "2019-02-24T21:52:18Z")

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Oh I like this!

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**Author:** ![Midnitewulf01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@Midnitewulf01](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Midnitewulf01)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/105 "2019-02-25T00:57:49Z")

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I’m really excited for the possiblity of two things in this next book. My drakaina turning into a dragon, if he gets to that level, and my kistune possibly speaking japanese (since there was some french spoken in chapter 1). Here’s hoping.

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**Author:** ![Disciple](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/disciple/32/34398_2.png) [@Disciple](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Disciple)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/106 "2019-02-25T01:48:10Z")

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> [@Gwenstn](#):
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> While we’re discussing that, I’d love the option to pretend you don’t know french to see what’s said about you while they think you can’t understand them. Though it feels like it’d be hard to implement clearly, if I’m being honest.

I support this request, and want to react to obviously to whats said if my emotional is to high.

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**Author:** ![Terrell\_Williams](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/terrell_williams/32/269406_2.png) [@Terrell\_Williams](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Terrell_Williams)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 5:39am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/107 "2019-02-25T05:39:30Z")

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@daydreamsincolor

Im not sure if this been metion but one of the major choice about Kol was this one here

Kol was not rescued and his where abouts are currently unknown

Makes it seem like he’s in a coma

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**Author:** ![idonotlikeusernames](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/idonotlikeusernames/32/5993_2.png) [@idonotlikeusernames](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/idonotlikeusernames)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 6:13am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/108 "2019-02-25T06:13:20Z")

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> [@daydreamsincolor](#):
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> It should be possible for them to begrudgingly wear accessories based on the latest fashion trend, and for MC to be able to comment on it.

The more important question is can we “influence” Leon and Altair to do so?

> [@Keeper of the Sun and Moon (Discussion)](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-the-sun-and-moon-discussion/50353/635):
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> He doesn’t have a high opinion of Theron and Nasim Dalton.

Huh? I honestly thought Theron had that same quality as Alty where everybody likes him.

> [@daydreamsincolor](#):
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> Altair was interning for Practical Magic Innovation

Awww…well…shit, if he’s working for my mc’s asshole magical “dad” that’s another complication. 😒  
Nothing to it but trying to keep work and personal business separate. 😣

In any case my mc now knows where not to intern I guess.

> [@Fay](#):
>
> I never saw it as that way.

I agree, they’d go differently without the mc meddling in them but most would still reach some sort of resolution. Maybe the mc can even hear about some of them in-game as rumours, status updates and talk around the proverbial or literal water cooler for the ones we do not get involved in? 🤔

> [@Fay](#):
>
> It is really up to the author to decide if the player _can_ make money through being a keeper.

True, but if it means looking like a (comparative) bum while forced to mingle with high society that’s one more reason why my mc would hate the keeper gig. 😒

As far as making money in NMC goes I suppose my poor mc will lose his relatively cushy job with Cy’s dad that Leon had gotten him with the increased fame as I’m afraid Secretary Monroe would no longer be content just to use the mc as an office assistant.  
The same goes for the hospital job (I don’t think the hospital will like the new influx of visitors trying to gawk at the new Keeper) in the NMC News internship, as it’s hard to be(come) a good investigative journalist when your face is that known. And, no, my mc would not to transfer to work in front of the camera. 😒

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**Author:** ![AmericanShakespeare](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/americanshakespeare/32/84342_2.png) [@AmericanShakespeare](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/AmericanShakespeare)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 6:39am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/109 "2019-02-25T06:39:41Z")

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> **bugs**
>
> > **You’re left feeling drained, but the wolves are left appropriately helpless and terrified.**
> > 
> > You’re left more than a bit unsettled yourself, though—Their screams are perhaps the worst sound you’ve ever heard.
> 
> I don’t think the first statement is needed for an expert elemental (with 30 stat)
> 
> > “Wait, before that—how are you going to protect my mom going to be protected from anything looking to hurt me?”
> 
> Sounds like MC is glitching
> 
> > Seraphina looks briefly surprised. “You’ll have to take that up with the appropriate authorities.”
> > 
> > “ **Who would be**?” you press, not backing down.
> 
> Who would that be
> 
> Oh and I get that hospital scene with Kol even though he was missing after the fight with Reyna

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**Author:** ![Byron\_Jantar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/byron_jantar/32/82875_2.png) [@Byron\_Jantar](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Byron_Jantar)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/110 "2019-02-25T15:19:37Z")

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If MC chooses to be magician, will holy fire harm him or nay ?

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**Author:** ![Noran](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/noran/32/67218_2.png) [@Noran](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Noran)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/111 "2019-02-25T23:52:06Z")

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You don’t know how much I missed those guys! A good time to be alive, for sure.

Best of luck for this book too, DDIC. Hope thinks go well.

Now, if you excuse me, time to check that and make plans for future playthroughs as well. x)

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**Author:** ![Fay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/fay/32/251409_2.png) [@Fay](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Fay)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 12:10am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/112 "2019-02-26T00:10:21Z")

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So I scrolled through the blog as usual to re-read some of my favorite asks to have a good laugh and I encountered this one again:

> **[Will Leon’s “spoilery” powers be revealed in the... - keeperofthesunandmoon](https://keeperofthesunandmoon.tumblr.com/post/179976529121/will-leons-spoilery-powers-be-revealed-in-the#notes)**
>
> Second book. Thanks for asking!

Apparently Leon has special powers that’ll be revealed in this book? This makes me even _more_ hyped to read the future chapters. @daydreamsincolor Do any of the other ROs have spoilery powers? I think I remember Yakov had one… Maybe Cressy and Katia too? Or am I remembering it wrong?

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**Author:** ![daydreamsincolor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/daydreamsincolor/32/82201_2.png) [@daydreamsincolor](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/daydreamsincolor)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/113 "2019-02-26T03:14:58Z")

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@WA2000  
Katia wouldn’t look into it and would continue living in blissful ignorance; Kol and Leon wouldn’t get involved in their subplots without MC’s support; and Davina’s always treated by Seraphina. You’re right that Thalia and Yakov are definitely concerns though.

> [@WA2000](#):
>
> loves all the characters and I really want everybody to be happy.

I’ll be sure there are opportunities to support Thalia and Yakov especially if not on their routes 😊

> [@RagEgnite](#):
>
> or does that stat not affect anything important as of now

It wasn’t a stat in the first game, so the game kind of assumes MC’s starting at 50/50.

> [@RagEgnite](#):
>
> or has it already been addressed in the previous game?

It’s addressed if you investigate the Delacroix Massacre.

> [@RagEgnite](#):
>
> but overall you did pretty well. 😙

Ahh thank you!! 😄

> [@Terrell\_Williams](#):
>
> Makes it seem like he’s in a coma

I’m sorry, I’m not quite certain what you’re saying. The other option was that he was in a coma, this was that his current whereabouts are unknown.

> [@idonotlikeusernames](#):
>
> where everybody likes him.

Tiras is more genre-savvy than most of the other characters; he doesn’t really trust anyone outside of Danica, Altair, and Astrid.

In general, Theron is well-liked though.

> [@idonotlikeusernames](#):
>
> Maybe the mc can even hear about some of them in-game as rumours, status updates and talk around the proverbial or literal water cooler for the ones we do not get involved in?

That should be possible! (I still need to write out a timeline for when different events are happening on different routes with/without MC intervention, but once I do that I should be able to reference other routes that MC isn’t on.)

@AmericanShakespeare  
Thanks for the catches!

> [@Byron\_Jantar](#):
>
> will holy fire harm him or nay ?

It can harm anyone. It’s more harmful to nephilim/cambions though, and is also able to cut off one’s ability to use magic, so magician MC is relatively better off than other MCs.

@Noran  
Thank you very much!

> [@Fay](#):
>
> Do any of the other ROs have spoilery powers?

Well, acknowledging spoilery powers would make them more likely to be spoiled… 🤔

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**Author:** ![idonotlikeusernames](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/idonotlikeusernames/32/5993_2.png) [@idonotlikeusernames](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/idonotlikeusernames)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 4:03am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/114 "2019-02-26T04:03:53Z")

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> [@daydreamsincolor](#):
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> In general, Theron is well-liked though.

Even my mc likes him, as he’s the only one of the adults who seems to accept him for who he is and doesn’t seem to project any outrageous expectations or demands on the mc. Of course, he is a politician and that might change with the whole rotten “keeper” reveal. My mc hopes it doesn’t as he rather liked Leon’s dad and Mirabelle. Again very much unlike his own dad or even Tiras.

> [@daydreamsincolor](#):
>
> That should be possible!

Yay! Can’t wait for my mc to hear to crazy stuff Cy is up to and for my other mc to overhear what Alty’s been doing all this time.

> [@daydreamsincolor](#):
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> Katia wouldn’t look into it and would continue living in blissful ignorance; Kol and Leon wouldn’t get involved in their subplots without MC’s support; and Davina’s always treated by Seraphina. You’re right that Thalia and Yakov are definitely concerns though.

So only some of the subplots, such as Alty’s happen regardless of mc being directly involved with them? 🤔

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**Author:** ![NatsDemilla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/natsdemilla/32/82087_2.png) [@NatsDemilla](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/NatsDemilla)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/115 "2019-02-26T04:23:45Z")

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I’d love to have more opportunities to spend my hard earned money! In the first game I felt like the money was kind of wasted - so much potential, man! Maybe buying weapons or taking RO on extra dates… Or spending it in things that would improve your skills. Besides, I WANT TO PET SERA’S DRAGON! I was so offended that she didn’t let me do that in the first game… C’mon Sera, everybody loves me, even magical pets. I mean, my instinct everytime a hellhound tries to attack me is try and become friends with them. Got bitten quite a few times because of it, but it was worth it.

Besides that, I want to get to know the professors better! They are all so interesting. I’d love to take one of them as a mentor of sorts.

Oh, one more thing! How did you get this good at coding? It’s amazing. Any tips for begginers?

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 4:24am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/116 "2019-02-26T04:24:43Z")

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> [@NatsDemilla](#):
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> I WANT TO PET SERA’S DRAGON!

You can do that in the first game. Briseis and Seraphina just needs to like you enough.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 4:25am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/117 "2019-02-26T04:25:50Z")

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I know, but I’m apparently not likable enough. ☹

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**Author:** ![No\_This\_Is\_Patrick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/no_this_is_patrick/32/223713_2.png) [@No\_This\_Is\_Patrick](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/No_This_Is_Patrick)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/118 "2019-02-26T04:27:41Z")

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Maybe if you looked in the code, you can pick the options that make him like you?

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/119 "2019-02-26T04:28:16Z")

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Yeah, it’s a good idea actually. Thanks! 🙂

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 6:03am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/keeper-of-day-and-night-update-post-1932/52499/120 "2019-02-26T06:03:23Z")

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@daydreamsincolor i was half a sleep when i post that  
The first choice hes in a coma  
The second choice hes missing  
I choose the the second choice

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