Hey peeps. I have always had a hard time navigating the forum so I need some help, has @Bacondoneright or any compiled writing notes/tips, historical notes/info? Or the like? I love this game and find the war aspect fascinating! It’s the first time I’ve interacted with anything on this level of historical accuracy. Heck I’d love to pick bacon’s brain too if possible!
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Perhaps because they recognized the same thing Sobik did (or accepted his opinion as someone with experience they themselves lacked) that Vedran would make a shit king no matter his tutor. Especially when the Marshall isn’t any sort of authority/expert in neither ruling nor tutoring. You have some experience in warfare but little else. And you can only polish a turd so much.
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You don’t have to be a good king if you have a good first minister and are the inheritor of an old dynasty. You just need to leave the right people in charge.
I am also going to maintain it’s pure usurpation since this was simply a letter in Sobik’s pocket and not a published decree. Even in an absolute monarchy, you have to actually promulgate a decree for it to have effect.
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Honestly I don’t trust Vedran to do the smart thing and leave the ruling to more competent people. This was the same man that thought he could get the throne by allying with Rade, the man who killed his father so he could get the throne for himself. Even if we try to make Vedran a puppet, he wouldn’t be a good one like how a weak Elya is because he’s more unpredictable, more independent, and values our opinion less than Elya.
I do agree with the letter though. Even if the laws of Kanton would permit it, anyone could have forged that kind of letter so I can see why Vedran was in denial at first.
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How come this cannot be said for Elya as well? Before being tutored by the marshall, she’s mostly just a 16 year old with no wish to become queen who’s not ready for the responsibilities of a monarch at all and only the marshal’s teachings can turn her into a competent monarch.
Who’s to say marshall won’t be able to turn Vedran into a decent king as well?
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Yeah, I’m just putting myself in the shoes of a noble or the people in the capital, and my questions would be, ok are there any witnesses to this letter? And assuming he did write it, how do we know the King actually intended for this to be acted on? For all we know he could have changed his mind after drafting this and that’s why it was never decreed to the public or to whatever Kanton’s version of the royal council is.
I think it would have a hard time passing muster even as a modern, enforceable will.
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Elya’s education is mostly one she’s received as a heir before the game. Added to it, she apparently has proper attitude Sobik has recognized and which caused him make his choice. The Marshall can alter her beliefs to some degree and offer some basic platitudes, but the core of her competence was/is always there, even if you choose to go as far as sabotage her. The core that Vedran is apparently lacking.
It’s not Marshall’s teachings that make her a competent monarch because the Marshall knows shit themselves about being a monarch, much less a competent one. The only thing they had a lick of was warfare.
Maybe the twist in Book 2 will be the letter was actually the Marshal’s doing all along, and they simply wanted to put their favorire sibling on the throne instead of two bozos. /s
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Yeah you’re right.
Much of the marshall’s teaching involve giving her self-confidence, self-reliance, maturity and a bit of military stuff and with just all of that, she becomes quite competent.
I’ve been thinking about it too, she really does have hidden potential that can be untapped through decisions that raise her leadership strength.
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Nobles WOULD back Elya/Marshall that totally wrecked 3 armies twice their size. That is silly to think a noble would not. Hence why total victory AND total loyalty are in the same boat.
Sure a Noble wouldn’t if an army didnt thrash 3 armies twice their size each time.
That is a silly idea. As Nobles can lose their lands to other loyal nobles at that point.
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100%. Particularly with Vedran completely removed from the picture. Elya’s claim is undeniable if she’s Sobik’s only living legitimate child.
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That and outsiders/other Kantonian nobles might see her as an easy path to the throne of Kanton for themselves/their son/their pawn. Even if Vedran is alive.
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Hey all, I’m wondering if you can repulse both calvary charges at the final battle with archers? Or is it only the first one where you can avenge Belos’ Sally thats possible?
Both as possible, yes, I’ve been able to do it with about 900 archers and 400 rangers
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1300 archers then in total, quite interesting, thank you!
To be clear, Rangers and archers aren’t a one-to-one thing, but if you have around those numbers and station the rangers in the back, you should be able to do it, And those numbers are rough estimates when considering what the military looks like after the battle in chapter 8 but before chapter 9
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sorry when i meant 1300 archers, that would include the rangers also since they would be acting as archers regardless but thank you for the advice 
i probably plan to have around 600 rangers and hold fast at the crossing to minimize ranger losses
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Mine hasn’t for three reasons, 1) He cares about his sister, 2) He really doesn’t want to marry or have children and this is the only positive consequence that has come from him missing two fingers and being “dishonored”, 3) Aligns with 2 but on the motivation he is not going to make himself either an object of pity or a plaything for the church by going along with the ridiculous re-honoring plot when all it would do is make him marginally eligible for Elya to marry off like livestock and people would still notice the missing fingers anyway. Thus any such plot would take away the one freedom he currently has in return for basically nothing.
Yes, who, if anybody, Elya chooses to marry will be(come) a very big deal and probably another point that reinforces my mc’s view that in spite of all the shit that happened to him the one thing he really can be grateful for is that it has taken him permanently off the marriage market.
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Second the church thing, although to be fair, that’s something my Marshall probably wasn’t thinking about it at the time, that stuff happens way, Way, way after any thoughts of sedition are gone from him. But it does solidify the decision he already made, The church knows they have a huge amount of power there, especially if the Marshall really wants it, so the smartest thing to do is to undercut them by telling them you really don’t care about getting re-honored or whatever
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Imagine if a canny Marshal who supported Elya actually tells Elya that they don’t care about being re-honored because that removes something that could be used against them by the Church leaders. Even if the Marshal does want it.
That, and Milon was thinking about marriage to F!Marshal (my main Marshal Anna is a F!Marshal romancing Milon) even with her dishonored status in mind (otherwise, he would not bring up that she’s a war hero with the ear of the queen, and later even more celebrated).
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Marrying Lada’s probably the only reason my Marshall would even consider the honoring thing, but even marrying her, that’s not a thought that’s gotten into his head yet, he’s way too pessimistic to really believe things can get that far yet, but when he does get to that point, he’s probably going to take a similar tack, I’m a fucking war hero and the Queen’s right hand man, I dare the church to do something about it
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