Guns of Infinity

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#48767

Bills are drafted in private, introduced in session, and often amended right on the floor. Sometimes ten minutes could mean the difference between a motion doing one thing, and something else entirely.

This is expedited by the fact that the Lords of the Cortes are conveniently unaccountable to their constituents/tenants.


#48768

Whistles inconspicuously


#48769

That’s definitely how the current Republican Party feeling right now.


#48770

umm…not to be mean…but…iam EGYPTION.


#48771

Speaking of governments, have a sneak peek at this month’s Patreon Article:

“Now see here!” the Aetorian salon wit might at this point interject, “do you mean to tell me Kentaur actually has a government?”


#48772

Ugh they haven’t even developed comedy yet?! Tierra is so hosed…


#48773

What I don’t get is why they seem to love those extreme-right wing “establishment” Dem candidates so much. Hillary and her husband after all created a vastly expanded incarceration culture for young-African American (and to a lesser extent all poor young) men culture, that is an absolute blight and contributes to creating the environment for today’s police killings and thus things such as “Black lives matter”, which is something that ideally wouldn’t need to be spelled out like that since it should be pretty self-evident.
People like Murphy and Ossoff, had he got in, are more likely to further impoverish them than to help their economic situation after all.

So I sincerely hope it’s not someone like Murphy who is supposed to be that “centrist” candidate, cause honestly over here he’d either be a relatively socially liberal conservative or part of the libertarian wing of our liberals.


#48774

It has less to do with the “right-wing” part and more to do with the “establishment” part. In the American political context, populists and other “outsiders” (especially in the South) have a long history of throwing black people under the bus, by doing things like allying with the Klan, or worse (Huey Long ended up allying with Charles Coughlin, who was pretty much a Nazi) for the sake of building enough of a power base to actually fulfil their policy promises. This kind of also applies to women in America, who have a similarly long history of getting burned by “radical” leftist movements (second wave feminism partly started as a reaction to the virulent misogyny of 60s political counterculture).

Given that context, it’s really easy to read an old rich white dude (like Sanders) promising “equality for all” as “I’ll throw black people/women under the bus if I can get equality for white men.”

The fact that you have self-proclaimed leftists like Caitlin Johnstone actually advocating for an alliance between the Sanders Wing and the alt-right (which, tbf isn’t exactly a common opinion) is not helping things.


#48775

The Clintons, Bill specifically, are very popular in the black community because he made an effort to reach out to and understand the black community (for the time period). Sanders sees everything through the lense of class struggle.

I recently heard a podcast featuring Tom Burrell and I think he said something that was at once revolutionary and common sense and still is not well understood today by white politicians in particular, "Black People Are Not Dark-Skinned White People.”


#48776

I think that’s the ticket as to why so many economic populists end up making the strange bedfellows they do. If you believe racism is a function of income inequality (it isn’t, though the two have certain reinforced each other in the past), then class struggle will “solve” racism, a thing which a lot of economic leftists in the west seem to earnestly believe, do some reason.

From that perspective, economic justice then creates racial justice, making any effort at reaching for the latter redundant at best and counter-productive at worst.

That also has a lot to do with why the one of the poorest, most historically downtrodden groups in America aren’t unanimously hopping on the DSA bandwagon like some might expect.


#48777

There are a lot of reasons. In the south for example many black voters are generally socially conservative and would identify with the Christian Right in many issues but still vote Democrat. It’s a big country with a lot of different people. I’d challenge even someone who made a career of it like Tom Burrell to appeal universally to any segment of American society on the basis of class or race alone.


#48778

Hell, even Trump ran on the intersection of financial anxiety with white racial anxiety.


#48779

The coalition he built in a lot of ways have nothing to do with each other they just happen to live separately in strategically important states…


#48780

The white rural parts of the country defeating the urban majority, just as Thomas Jefferson would have liked, though probably not in the way he’d planned.


#48781

Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave and it’s not like he was a paragon of virtue…


#48782

So they are like the, currently much diminished, Christian social wing of our Christian Democrats?
Absolutely horrid social issues policies but decent and indeed erstwhile occasional allies on economic issues?

While focusing exclusively on economic justice isn’t enough (see our old Christian socialists) they are self-reinforcing, whereas a sole and exclusive focus on the latter just tends to create gentrification by minority doctors, lawyers and celebrities while leaving the less talented of all races and other minorities in the dust.
In the short term in nations like the US with massive amounts of racial inequality and under-utilized minority talent that will positively impact the economy and other sectors of society in the long term it will level off.
It also means relatively little to the proverbial starving masses of all races if the only policies that get pushed will only uplift the most talented (or occasionally “lucky”) of them.

Which is why the fact that the US has their FPTP two party system is so perplexing to me (yes, I know historical reasons that many Americans don’t even remember plus the fact that the “wisdom of the founding fathers” is held to be sacrosanct), if any country needs a multi-party coalition and consensus democracy one would think it was the US.


#48783

I wouldn’t so much say “horrid” as much as “not putting in the effort towards an audience who has every right to be sceptical”.

Considering that in both the United States and Canada, the bulk of those deemed racial underclasses are on a whole different level of “poor” beyond what most of their white counterparts would ever consider, fighting against the forces which keep them at that level will so quite a great deal in fighting income inequality simply by raising the floor.

I feel like you’re missing the fact that while visible ethnic minorities where you live mostly showed up as economic immigrants, the worst-treated ones where we live never had a choice in the matter and have become the vast bulk of the literal “starving masses” as opposed to those who are “merely” poor.


#48784

Oh he’s not you know I’d Old rich white guy. He had every opportunity to be. His base is pretty Stalwart I’m not going to lie about that as I got older I see the need a compromise aka what I absolutely have to. Even Bernie compromise I look at that crime bill the one that gave Clinton a lot of s*** during the primaries I know Bernie voted for it but you can find more then enough videos of him protesting at and then getting him the exact reason why I spelled out to why voted for it. Which is a clause that was very important to him and his constituency which where protection for battered women. He has a personal history of caring about social justice both of the young man and currently as much as he does about economic. And you don’t get away with being an independent and not knowing how to score small victories get Coalition together and how to go and play with the other parties. The mind you the Republicans he grew up dealing with and the political Arena are very different than the ones that are currently in office or at least the majority of them anything resembling a moderate Republican has most likely been purged out the majority of states and trust me that is sad.


#48785

I think I listen to the idea at least in our country particularly and I don’t know that many other nations really experienced that like America has. Is that we only stopped at least a half of our nation only stopped being a full-blown slave Society about 150 years ago. You’re not going to destroy deep embedded racism overnight when the equivalency at one point of being a successful man in the south is owning land and couple human beings. Because if you read those Civil War letters particular of Southern soldiers and they talk about liver day they’re not talking about Liberty how we think of Liberty today. They’re talking about the liberty of what they see is preserving the rorder of the world there quote-unquote Society what is civilized and just in their eyes. And to destroy that for the means you make them something lesser. And they literally been dealing with that humiliation ever since.

I mean literally Martin Luther King’s next protest was the poor man’s March he was trying to show that there was a class Unity that we had a shared Humanity that were we’re trying to break down the racial barriers to have economic Unity and then he gets killed. Which is wild when you think about it because the poor whites are historically the ones that are most in love with the old slave Society both during his heyday and romantically in the past because it gave them something to inspire too.


#48786

Yes, I am a European Socialist and that is the lens through which I usually tend to view politics and my experience with minorities (being gay makes me part of one too) has all been over here too since I have never lived abroad for extended periods of time.
I do think we absolutely need to engage in minority outreach and integration programmes, but they also need to fit in a broader social democratic vision and strategy.
Like I said, over here if you only focus on the latter as our “new left” labour party was increasingly fond of doing all that results in is lifting up the most talented as they are the only ones really equipped to take advantage, hence the gentrification by minority lawyers, doctor, engineers and celebrities, while leaving the vast majority of most minorities in the dust along with the poorer and less talented parts of the indigenous population.
Which results in more income and wealth inequality and the sort of resentment that gives mr. Wilders and even more fringe figures their political opening.

I know of the plight of indigenous Americans and the Canadian First Nations. I also know many of the American Indians live in de-facto Bantustans, unrepresented in either the US House or Senate and that in order to be fairly represented they’d need at least 7 Congress critters of their own, not including possible Senators.
The same goes for the US “territories”, from Puerto Rico to the Virgin Islands.

Indeed, according to this article Black Lives Matter may achieve their goals more quickly if they either re-brand or create as sister organization “All Lives Matter”.