Guns of Infinity



This is the first point, it is worst then what the military dictatorship out the social democrats ever did. Never in the history of this country the corruption was so spread like now.

Did you know the Worker’s Party helped financially Chavez and Maduro dictatorship? It helped several other left-wing parties all around Latin America (including Cuba) with public money.

Several of them were terrorists, including Dilma.

I’m sure the USA is not perfect, but it is hundreds times better than any Latin America country governed by the left-wing.
In my country there are 60 hundred people killed by violence per year, 13 million people without job, the Northeast part of the country suffer because of the lack of water even with the water diversion project in the São Francisco river, etc.
The country is in shambles and the Worker’s Party has directly responsibility.


That’s kind of a factor of the fact that socialism is a mixed bag unless you’re already a wealthy country with strong institutions of popular rule and enough geopolitical power to enforce certain economic assurances from your trading partners.

Venezuela’s system worked during the Chavez years because oil prices were high, and everything could be paid for by exports. Of course, when oil prices dropped thanks to Saudi Arabia’s long-running cold war with Iran, the Venezuelan economy collapsed for the same reason. When the state takes on the socioeconomic burdens normally carried by the private sector, the state’s integrity and legitimacy are tied to the ability of the state to ensure that those burdens can be paid for. This more or less means that if you’ve got a massive social security state funded by nationalised industries, then those industries have to be reliable money-makers, or the social security apparatus collapses and drags the general population down with it.

The problem is that for nationalised industries to be reliably profitable, your trading partners need to act in a manner which almost necessarily overrides their national interest with yours. The only ways around that are to either keep your trading partners in your power, or be in a region of the world were there is an organisation willing to regulate your trading partners for you.

In short, you either have to run an empire (as the Soviet Union did) or be one of the profiting components of an empire.


This is true. Lets face it, Venezuela was a disaster is no uncertain terms, but politics are so diverse that one left wing government may not be comparable to another.

Even thats at a push. Apathy is still there in large form, several million voters didnt turn up to vote in 2016 largely because they hated the candidates (which, lets face it, we can hardly blame), felt nothing would change, or were badly represented. Turnout was only 58 percent, after all, and theres all the shit flying round about illegal votes (Donalds favourite) and the voter identification laws targeting minorities and hurting turnout.


Thanks Cata, I tried to give a formal hello before, but it didn’t go as long planned.

It’s… okay on my end in the sense that I’m not suffering from any major disease (just my ocasional bouts of sinositis). Gasoline is terrible, the smell, the weight, the price… but at least I can sleep comfortably at night (even got to catch up on some GoT (bought the discs).

The rest of the island is pretty mixed, the mountain area is devastated, the South is pretty good, and the North/Metropolitan areas are managing.

Our governor is messing it up, the legislators are a mess, the Secretaries of Agencies are terrible, and La Junta is trying to take away any and all semblance of democratic representation and government, also, they mayors, depending on who they are, are both being called showboats and the most responsible first responders.

All in all, it’s complicated to say the least, but I genuinely appreacite you asking.

(Also, if anyone wants to donate to whatever charities are there, please do so.)

(Also, @Cataphrak if you want to do me a favor, perhaps a bonus content (where you pay) in which you can perhaps cheat a little, life is kinda hard, so, power fantasies are my escape.)

Also, @idonotlikeusernames if you got any tips for becoming a lawyer and/or entering politics, I’d certainly appreacite that. #2036 #YoungestElectedPresident


I mean, Hallowford is coming out in a month or so, and that’s supposed to be a power fantasy.


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Guys, you’re breaking the internet.


Like, we ain’t Kim Kardasshian, but thanks.


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I mean, Hallowford is coming out in a month or so, and that’s supposed to be a power fantasy.

You know exactly what I pray for at the altar I made to you, for Super Dragoon Experience.




Interesting, I haven’t had the luxury of being able to follow those latest US elections very closely. Any helpful links?

Your military dictatorship would probably have made me turn “terrorist” too, if it didn’t turn me into a corpse or a cripple first.
In any case the USA supported your military dictatorship with public funds and military support that could have been better spent improving conditions in the US’ own Bantustans (such as the politically unrepresented “Indian” reservations).
Of course like Puerto Rico they are unrepresented at the Federal level, so the Dems and Reps have limited incentive to care on account of them having minimal political influence..
Then again they are hardly the only effectively disenfranchised people in the US, just some of the most visible to us in this country on account that our documentary filmmakers love them.

As @Ringleader already said first past the post is generally a terrible system for adequately representing voters and a diverse array of political viewpoints as anyone who didn’t for the winner of their district is politically silenced for at least four years and districts can theoretically be “won” on extremely small percentages of the vote.
Then there is the myriad of other tactics employed most often by the Reps these days but the Dems are far from clean on this too of Gerrymandering.

As for elections I’m strongly in favour of making election day a public holiday, both over here and in places like the US and I believe Bernie did suggest it. As it is one of the single most effective things you can do to get turnout up and you can even combine it with Australian style mandatory voting.
Still it does as much or more then all of our current turnout promoting measures, such as improved absentee/postal voting, unbound voting ballots, extended poll opening hours and even the legal target to have <15 mins maximum waiting time combined.
Then again it is the one measure that is vehemently opposed by some of parties on economic grounds.
As an interim solution we could combine the measures we already have with Sunday voting though of course that has our Christian Democrats crying bloody murder. I suppose we could legally spread voting over both Sunday and Monday, though it would cost more money.

For example having US elections always fall on a Tuesday was an elegant and ingenious solution and made a lot of sense in a society where the vast majority of the eligible voters where religious white male farmers and infrastructure was rather limited. The problem is that it makes far less sense today, but it’s another thing that has become sacrosanct so it won’t be changed any time soon, no matter how out of tune with modern society it has become.
Today it has rather become a measure of voter suppression, instead of promoting maximum turnout.

Theoretically this is where social democracy and progressive taxation with a strongly regulated private economy come in as to re-distribute some of that accrued private wealth back into society in order to make it more liveable, pleasant and ultimately sustainable.
However some things, particularly industries where no effective competition is possible due to infrastructure or other requirements, such as our railways are better run for the public benefit by the state then by profit-focused private enterprise since there can never be real and effective competition there on account that we’re not going to allow every company to appropriate lands to create its own rail network and even if we did few would be willing to make to make the initial investment to build them anyway.
The other way is to have limited need for trading partners in the first place, both the US and the former Soviet Union would have had enough resources to function as entirely self-contained economies if necessary.

Realistically, no, that’s because the law and the requirements for becoming a lawyer are still vastly different from country to country. Over here you need to study law at least four years and graduate and then follow that up with another three years of the combined law-school/trainee lawyer track this country has and after that keep earning the required credits for re-accreditation each year. Also do not piss off the only bar association in the country too much. In the US the procedures are radically different.

Walk up and volunteer, seriously it is as simple as that. Or at least it was for me. Although I was fortunate to make enough of an impression to be offered a paid political aide spot after, since I wouldn’t have been in the position where I could have afforded to continue if it wasn’t for that. Which is why I’m against cutting subsidies for political parties as they are now expecting much more people then in my day to become unpaid political aides, needless to say you need the bank of mum and dad to finance it in that case, which wouldn’t have been in the cards for me.
Becoming a candidate requires either creating your own party/movement or getting past the vetting commission of one of the established ones. Something I had just managed after years of being a political aide, weeks before my then undiagnosed celiacs came to a head and my health really took a nosedive, which meant I had to go on disability and let it go. Not one of the fondest moments in my life.
But seriously just join up or start your own movement, if you’ve got, as the Germans say the Fingerspitzengefühl for the “art of the possible” you should do at least relatively okay.
If you’re already famous and/or have got the sort of money and connections or brilliance and charisma I never did, well you can use them to take shortcuts not available to me.

Again the US is hugely different though you’ve got that first-past-the-post two party system and particularly to even think of running for President you need more money then all of our political parties put together even have available.
Frankly I wouldn’t want to join either the Dems or the Reps at this point, however since at the moment it is seemingly vital to get that (D) or (R ) behind your name on the US ballot, I guess it’s pick your poison.
If I absolutely had to I would join whichever one of the two was weakest in the district I wanted on account of having more opportunity to use it to build my own brand. For example I’ve heard that in some Hawaii districts there is effectively no Republican party in existence, so even if I wanted to outflank the incumbent Dem on the left, I’d likely go for the (R ) there, whereas in, say, Idaho I’d do the opposite.
However since that is similar to the Bernie strategy expect no support from the larger party in that case, but if all you need is to get that (D) or (R ) behind your name that’s likely survivable provided you can establish a connection with your district and it isn’t one of the ones where you need to be independently wealthy to run in the first place.

This is why I don’t envy @Rogar for living in a state where you need to be really wealthy to even consider running for office due to the need to compete in some of the most expensive media markets in New York in order to get your message out.
Seriously much more then Northam Phil Murphy in New Jersey sounds like a bunch of bad news to me.

I know next to nothing of Puerto Rican politics in particular though.

Doesn’t Cata do power fantasy in his other series? I SHALL BECOME THE DESTROYER OF WORLDS MUAHAHAHAH!!!
Not in the Infinity series, though.


FiveThirtyEight had a pretty decent play-by-play. Most recent comments are at the top of the page.

Mostly because both were already empires, through control of the Western US and Siberia/The USSR’s “brother republics” respectively.


It was bad, but was not as bad as the others in Latin America. It killed a little less than 500.
And she is responsible for a lot of bad things:

None of them were right.


One of the big reasons why campaign Finance reform is so huge for me. I know to be personally a mass of Blocker in my own state for any type of deep political interaction. Now my lily-white ass has that difficulty with my current job situation I’m under the category of the working poor. Now imagine the difficulty for minority representation outside of anything of superficiality. Now thing to about my home state we have some deeply red counties even though they’re very blue. The reason is there such a strong a lack of interest in politics and just depression to political involvement that no one is active and in turn the traditional stereotypical example of a centralist corporatist and sadly quite corrupt politicians is the order of day. And the barrier for entries quite High.


I called work this morning and said, "Sorry boss, I can’t come in today, I have a wee cough."
He said, “You have a wee cough?”

I said, “Really?! Thanks boss, see you next week!”

@Lotus, how long would I last if I tried that?


Seven seconds? Maybe nine. Depends.


Since it’s me I’m guessing the 1 Second it takes to process the stupidity of that statement?


And a minimum of 5 to find a replacement for you.


It took me way longer than it should have to understand that joke.


Lols me too. I’m gonna try that someday.:joy:


I guess that comes down to a difference in how regulation-heavy we think governments should be, rather than issues with specific things. I guess that is fair enough as i think we have a slightly ideological divide.

It was forced to be a pretty binary issue by the non-action of several EU member-states who were blocking action at the supranational level. There was a very real and incoming humanitarian disaster with the approach of winter, and with the opposition for such processes from the Eastern European countries, there wouldn’t have been EU support in time to build the infrastructure to support more than one million people.

Easy enough to suggest what is needed to be done, and the Greeks HAVE built more camps (my wife worked in one for a summer), but try getting it through in time against hostile member-states.

Emergency support wasn’t even granted until March 2016 (Council Regulation 2016/369) on the smaller scale wanted by the Eastern member-states.

We can’t, which is why following 2015 we also upped the process of shutting down the smuggling routes both in Libya and Turkey. But what we did have in 2015 was hundreds-of-thousands of people in danger, already on European shores.

But that is when the argument becomes what kind of symbol we are sending by accepting these asylum-seekers? I guess i was just hoping that we had progressed a bit in the international solidarity department…

workers of the world… i mean europe, unite!


Hey guys, I’m back to the thread. What did I miss?