I would love to see some fan girl action for Arthur 
I would want my Guen to be jealous and then Arthur would be confuse and say there just being nice lol
Well, youāre the one responsible for telling us what Lancelot and Arthur and Morgana can do, so . . . how well or badly they play their cards is up to the author. I think Iāve made the best choices for Camelot and Arthur I can with the stats I have (40 Leadership or so, 17 or something sword).
And that does sound like āthoughtfulā or something like that would be a good way to describe āIāve been slightly/moderately/very _____ to Morganaā. Itās your story, but if youāre looking to replace ākindā, Iām opinionated enough to suggest it.
At what point in the story would Guen bear an heir, if that was going to happen? Not looking for spoilers, just thinking about how Mordred is down the road, and all the misery that will inevitably unleash even with all the right choices.
@elfwine Okay I officially give up, how are people getting up to forty for skills? Even if I hyperfocus or pick stuff I think gives points to them, I only get up to like 30.
Lmao I wish I was as good as you think! Discovering how to use the emojis was a total accident, I was going for the typical colon-parentheses smiley face when the emoji list came up 
I was actually going to ask you how to make the emojis appear once I was done with my message!
Itās good to see another avid user of emojis 
Iāll always love the big four together 
Youāre doing a really good job establishing Guenās relationship with each of them as well as her motivations behind them imo! Especially with Morgana, I always love talking to her so Iām really happy about the scenes with her in Book 2, even if they were kidnapped 
I especially love it when they (albeit somewhat) talk shit about Arthur and Lance. I like to call it their Witch and Bitch session because my canon Guen practices light magic and they somehow talk about Hippie and Barbie when preparing magic?
Ugh Arthurās too good for his own good but I love him anyway 
Omfg āhardenā but in the Dragon Age way, oh Jean 
Iām pretty sure youāve mentioned that before but I forgot (Iām so sorry), how would we harden him?Have you thought about it? Will we get to do it any time soon?
Do you think that Arthur discovering about Guenās infidelity could harden him as well? (In the Dragon Age sense ofc)
And no, not stupid! Never stupid imo but maybe a bit naive and a little too good-natured? Okay yes, I definitely want to see him realize his mistakes and own up to them. Iām totally in on the slapping Arthur for choosing to chase a doppelganger (understandable tho) even though Guen and him did the deed and slept together but I also want to smooch him on his cute face afterwards 
Also, whatās this massage scene with Arthur and how do I get it!?
AND NO, I DIDNāT KNOW THAT I DIDNāT HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THEM, DO TELL OR PM ME.
[CRIES AGAIN]
[DIES AGAIN]
ALL MY DREAMS ARE COMING TRUE
Ahhh I love you and how you think, Jean, youāre so nice and thoughtful and accommodating!!
Yay consent!
I imagine that Lance hearing that and pointing it out to Guen would make him think twice and lower his trust stat?
We get to decide if we want to break the spell?! Wouldnāt Lance have a say in it or is it determinant that Guenās the only one who can break it? I suppose that Guen could persuade him that there was no spell despite his inkling suspicions?
What about Morgana and Arthur? Would they find out about the spell?
Jean, youāre killing me I want to know but at the same time, I want the element of surprise! How juicy is this secret and when will it be revealed?
Does sheā¦ maybe not want to share Lance too?
I guess trusting people scares her because no oneās really trusted her because of her dark magic? That and/or people use her for her dark magic?
Iāve noticed that Morganaās the only one having to deal with any dark magic situation but I guess thatās because she knows her shit and sheās the only one they trust?
Ohh okay, got it! Looks like light magic takes it literal with its name!
In Guenevere, how widespread are the users of magic? Can anyone practice light/dark magic?
Okay so Iāve kind of thought about it and Iāve revised my attack plan!
The more I think about it, the more I think I should send Guen to Camelot since they donāt know about the impending doom + Arthur went and took the stronger forces. Protecting Camelot goes with what I have for my canon Guen too since she wants to be queen, rule and possibly make something great if she can so this definitely an opportunity for her. But then again, failing would suck big time 
will she get to redeem herself if she fails?
Are there any implications if you chose to find Morgana first since you mentioned that finding her will lead back to the three choices? Other than time?
I kind of feel like I can go without looking for Morgana because sheās so capable and sensible and I know she wonāt really be upset with Guen because she understands but at the same time I donāt know!
Will we be able to deploy Morgana to any one of the other options like we could with Lance when we find her? Because then Iāll have her go help Arthur since her dark magic will (hopefully) level out the half giantās. Also, I want that sword!
Question about the sword: Would it corrupt the user in any way?
Lance would be better suited in getting the thing if I donāt send him to Arthur since heās good at sneaking around and he actually understands the language. But would he be able to convince the council? Part of me is confident that heāll be successful because of how he stuck up for Arthur at 16, how he inspired confidence and loyalty soon after?
So yeah, thatās the gist of it!
Is this a good plan or do you have any input? (aka I would very much like a cheat sheet )
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I found another thing:
āIs is really so strange for a wife to get undressed in her husbandās presence?ā
And youāre welcome but itās really nothing! 
I must say that I canāt say anything bad about this game even if I could because I canāt find a single flaw + you are super cool and super great!!! 
Another question/item for the wishlist, this time dealing with the count.
So weāre on the boat, just having been captured and here comes the count initiating the his half of the classic good cop/bad cop routine, he very likely has an agenda, but I find myself agreeing with everything he says, not because I actually believe him but because thereās no upside in openly declaring myself his enemy. The game lets me express my mistrust in a reflection seen a little later on, but for now thereās no distinguishing between dumb and playing dumb. Which is a shame, because itās the first opportunity for Guen to rack up points in deceitfulness and manipulation without also being some evil sleeper agent trying to undermine the orher main characters. I wouldnāt mind seeing some (lie) options in the dialogue there, or else a mechanic that keeps track of how conciliatory youāve been up until the reflection scene, and then acknowledges the potential that you were trying to play him.
Which brings me around to the oath recorder. My first instinct is to go along and agree to use it: His most obvious use for the thing is as another bit of evidence to bring home as a way of showing the court heās the person best positioned to clean up the Queenās mess, itās probably worth giving him the win just to keep him off his guard. But as a matter of narrative logic, itās hard not to see it as a Checkovās Gun thatās going to discharge right in to my kneecap sooner or later. But as a matter of in world logic, I just canāt see Guen having anything to fear from being recorded promising to work for peace, unless she decides to try to invade Frankmarch later for some nutty reason.
So, without spoiling any more than you want to, can you give me a sense of how significant this choice actually even is?
My imagening of how guen tells arthur that see has lovers:
Arthur: Guen Tell me the truth I beg of you is there someone else in your life except me?
Guen: Yes I am in love with your sister Morganaā¦
Arthur:ā¦Dumpstruck Shit that explains a lot of thingsā¦
Guen:Also I am in love with lancelot.
Arthur: WAIT WHAT?
Guen: Donāt worry though I have only consumated my love with morgana only.
Lancelots relationship with me is one of courtly love and nothing else.
Arthur: LALALALALLALALALALALL CANāT HEAR YOU LALALALALLALALA
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Not counting choices that didnāt impact Leadership, this is what I know works for that:
Choice #1: āSpend as much time as possible with my father learning leadershipā. (+20 Leadership)
Choice #2: Help Arthur plan battle strategies (+1 Leadership)
Choice #3: Talk with the more experienced knights about battle tactics (+1)
Choice #4: Walk among the soldiers pre-Badon(this is with having felled a Saxon in the fight earlier) (+1 Leadership)
Choice #5: Fire the rocket immediately. (+1 Leadership)
Choice #6: Give a speech after the battle (+2 Leadership)
Choice #7:Spending most of my time learning more leadership (+10 Leadership) (Part 2)
And a few other choices add +1 or maybe +2 each.
Iāve never played a Guen using another skill primarily (mine is Leadership/Sword/no magic), but it seems pretty easy to get high Leadership if thatās your focus.
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@elfwine Ah, I think it might be the āfew other choicesā that Iām missing. I didnāt even know you got leadership for walking among the soldiers!
Iāll try again and see what I can get.
Just for completenessās sake:
(edit): Choosing sword as your second choice gives another +1 (on top of the +10 for leadership as your first choice) in what youāve been studying (part 2).
Giving directions in regards to herding the sheep is another +1.
Telling the guards and Gueneveres youāll come with them if they help over Morgana is +1.
Dominating Meligauntās sword by force of will is another +1.
@Mirabella @Chriswa27 @Princess hahahaha I could absolutely imagine Arthur just not getting it that he had fangirlsā¦ āTheyāre just being nice!ā indeed. And now Iām picturing his fandom running around the castle secretly trading Arthur/Lance fics scribbled on scraps of parchmentā¦ oh my. Now that, I might just have to see if I could work in without it being ridiculous.
@Elfwine Oh, now I see what you meant with āthoughtful!ā Itās a good suggestion. Iāve put it on my list of things to consider next time I edit part 1. I will probably change the phrasing so itās less about Guen and more about how she perceives the other charactersā attitudes toward her. If Guen has a child, it will be in part 4. Her decisions in part 3 will determine whether or not it happens ā at least, thatās the plan right now.
@thesunfloweramazon Guen has a few extra opportunities to get points in leadership, more than with the other skills. I figured that simply being queen would put her in a position to pick up some leadership skills, even if it isnāt one of her āofficialā stats. I think everything @Elfwine is reporting is correctā¦ though Iām not sure about āChoosing sword as your second choice gives another +1 (on top of the +10 for leadership as your first choice) in what youāve been studying (part 2).ā ā if thatās happening, it might be a bug, though I canāt find it in the code.
Should be interesting. Iām not too concerned on finding the way to do it as a must do, but it struck me - Guen and Arthur have definitely been busy trying.
On the stats:
It seems to be happening, but I might be misreading - somehow I get up to 40 with that choice and the others named, that I do know.
Are we ever supposed to get ālarger bonus from one thing/smaller bonus to something elseā from the same decision (skillwise)?
@ceecrab The same thing happened to me with the emojis ā somehow I typed :non by accident, and the next thing I knew, I had non-potable water and was dying from laughter. But then someone posted a link in the āwe have a new forumā thread: http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com/ and now I can make all the dromedary camels 
my heart desiresā¦ or even a non-dromedary (I donāt think thatās really the right term) camel! 
Iām glad you like Morgana and Guen togetherā¦ thereās such a dearth of female friendships (and, to be fair, f/f romances) in media that I wanted to give Morgana a prominent role. I was happy when I realized Iād be able to give her and Guen a lot of time together in part 2, since she got a little short-changed in part 1.
Well, obviously Guen can harden Arthur in other ways tooā¦ 
but in the Dragon Age sense, her first chance will be at the end of part 2, when heās feeling guilty for all the mistakes heās made. My plan right now is that certain events can also make him somewhat less idealistic; for example, heāll be understandably disturbed after Mordredās conception, and Guen can choose to try to help him stay positive or let him be depressed for a while so heās more willing to admit that the world isnāt all bunnies and rainbows. Ideally, I want to have sort of a āhardness scaleā (teehee 
) so that Arthur can respond to future events in different ways ā but weāll see if I can really pull that off. And yes, if Arthur doesnāt realize Guenās being unfaithful for years and years, and then finds out, I imagine itāll be another step on the hardness scale.
You get the massage scene if Guen doesnāt make Arthur take her clothes off. 
No secret; Iāve said a few times (after being coy for a while but then giving up when a lot of people asked on tumblr) that Guen can eventually have an ot3 with Arthur and Lancelot, or Morgana and Lancelot (just not A/M, because they would not be okay with incest, or all four at once, because same). It may not be easy to get, and YMMV on the particular ethics of getting Arthur (who is straight) to agree, but it will be possible.
So after you said that about losing trust points with Lance, I thought āOh! Yes, that should happen!ā and then went to add it, and realized that there was already a minus there. Itās only two points; maybe it should be three or four, considering thatās not a small thing.
Guen will be the only person with the power to break the spell (at least, in the near future). Lance will find out what the spell is at the same time Guen does, and Morgana will know because sheās Morgana and she knows, like, everything. So only Arthur might be kept in the dark, but Guen will have a chance to tell him (or not).
As for Morgana and Lancelotās rather complicated relationship, if they both have their way, nothing will change, because they like things as they are ā or at least, they think they do. It would take a perceptive person who cared about them both to suggest, at just the right moment, that maybe they should examine their feelings more closely.
Yes, Morgana is used to people not trusting her because of her magic (I imagine that other kids, except for Lancelot, thought she was creepy when she was little), and she was also somewhat traumatized by being forced into marriage to an older man (whom she didnāt particularly like) at a relatively young age. Lot is not a bad person, and relatively speaking her situation wasnāt too terrible, but it still made her somewhat cynical.
Not totally sure what you mean by āhaving to deal with any dark magic situation,ā but Morgana is definitely the most powerful and knowledgeable dark magic user associated with Arthurās court. She and Merlin are the only people with any dark magic knowledge that Arthur and his people would trust. Magic users are not very common, so theyāre valuable assets. In theory anyone could learn magic (no muggles per se), but itās not easy. Light magic is easier, and less feared, than dark magic, so there are more light magic users than dark.
Will Guen be able to redeem herself if she fails at Camelot? Well, she can continue try to gain different kinds of political and military supportā¦ I donāt think sheād be able to make a failure like that just go away, but it doesnāt mean everythingās over and sheāll never have any power.
Just so you wonāt be disappointed, Iāll go ahead and say that by the time you find out where Morgana went, it will be too late to send her anywhere else. Sheās not going to sit around and do nothing. 
Right now I donāt think the sword would be corrupting, but no promises!
Lancelot is well suited to handle things in Frankmarch, but his abilities will be useful no matter where you send him. Heād do a pretty good job with the council; heās confident and relatively savvy, and he knows Frankish. Heās not guaranteed to succeed on his own on any of the branches; other factors will affect whether or not heās able to enact Guenās wishes in her absence ā but heāll certainly try.
So I think that Guen going to Camelot and sending Lancelot to Frankmarch is as good a plan as any, and how well things go will depend on other stuff (like where Morgana, the pet, and some other characters end up).
āIs isā duly noted; thank you.
Whew! I think I answered everything I could, but let me know if I missed something!
Iām pretty sure you get a free leadership point after your secondary skill selection if youāve convinced Arthur to let you be more involved in running the kingdom.
@Wonderboy All excellent points! I will add some (lie) options and more acknowledgement thereof. I always hope the reader understands that the game doesnāt necessarily take anything Guen says to other people at face value, but I know there are times when the reader wants to be reassured that yes, this really is a lie. Thank you for the great suggestion.
If Guen truly intends to work for peace, it would be hard for anyone to fault her for what gets recorded ā itās not a very specific promise, after all. The oath charm may come back to bite her, or it may not. Youāre absolutely right that, everything else being equal, Grimald could present the charm to the Frankish court as evidence that Britain doesnāt want war, and Radagund made a mistake. There are a lot of different possible outcomes with the Franks: Britain and Frankmarch could remain at war or not; they could make a peace/trade alliance or not (stopping the war doesnāt automatically mean getting the trade alliance), Radagund could remain queen or not, and Guen could end up making a personal alliance with Grimald, or Radagund, or Tilda. In some cases, the oath charm may never get mentioned again. In others, Grimald will try to use it against Guen if sheās working against him and he gets really desperate. If Guen supports or allies with Grimald, the oath wonāt be a problem in part 2, but (as you say) could maybe come back to haunt her sometime in the future if she doesnāt actually work for peace. I donāt know if that answers your question, but I hope it gives you some idea of the oathās significance (or not).
(Wrote one post and deleted it because Iām replying to things so fast that Iām forgetting who said whatā¦) I believe @Wonderboy is correct about the leadership point.
@Player āLALALALL CANāT HEAR YOU LALAā is about right for how Arthur would probably prefer to handle such a conversation. If I can stick to my plan, there will be better and worse ways of breaking it to him (the worst one being just to wait until he finds out).
@Elfwine Choosing a skill shouldnāt give a smaller bonus to another skill, but it can give reputation points. Itās possible that somewhere in there I assigned a point to sword that should have gone to responsibility or one of the other rep stats ā but I canāt find it right now, so Iāll look through the code sometime when Iāve had more sleep.
It sounds like the oath charm is either bad or has no effect. Is there anyway that Guen could use it to cast doubt on a future accusation by Grimald that she is manipulative or not an honest broker?
@jeantown Oh! Awesome! I thinkā¦if I EVER saw Arthur mad or even disappointed in my Guenā¦Iād die a little. Just because itās SO HARD to get him mad. I think if there was one person in this damn series who could make me do anything for them, itād be Arthur. Heās not even my favorite per say, itās justā¦ wellā¦heās so sweet. Swoon.
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@cascat07 Hm, thatās a good ideaā¦ Currently the āgoodā effect of the oath charm is that, if Guen makes the deal and her initial escape plan fails, Grimald will let her escape and hold Morgana back. If Guen doesnāt make the deal, Grimald will hold her back under the same circumstances. This makes absolutely no difference in the part youāve got, but whether Morgana escapes first or second will determine where she goes, and thus where Guen goes if she looks for her (or where Lancelot goes if Guen sends him after Morgana). So itās an odd, indirect effect, but itās there.
And, of course, if Guen wants to ally with Grimald, using the charm isnāt going to hurt.
After looking Wonderboyās post and your reply I think thatās it - since it refers to that (convincing Arthur to let you be more involved). I just take it for granted that of course my Guen wants to be more involved, so I didnāt even think of it being why and not the secondary skill.
I canāt imagine playing a Guen who doesnāt want to be more involved, whatever style she picks, so I think I just read it as fluff.
But what rep stat if any are we supposed to see go up if we pick sword as our secondary skill here? More to bravery?