@CrayFoPottah Oh so that’s what Pottah mean? I thought you had had some bad shellfish or… Something. 
No, but really I was curious.
@MutonElite Bad shellfish, omg =)) And here I thought my username was obvious Or I thought at least my profile picture would be identifiable. But it was an amusing assumption nonetheless!
I thought it was ghetto slang… That was my world language class in high school, you know
@CrayFoPottah Yes I recognize Luna, but I don’t think you had that picture before though? Anyways, slightly off-topic, I apologize.
Ohh i never heard of Munchkin, but now when i looked it up it looks very funny and interesting 
I must add it to the list of things i want to buy someway in the far future :).
@jeantown as for magic leadership item, first thing that comes into my mind would be a magic crown, tiara or diadem, since those are already associated with leadership. Or maybe a gem that can be put into crown or turn to neckalce. I looked up for something like that in Arthurian legends and found this:
“Stone of Giramphiel - In the Diu Krône (or “The Crown”), Gawain won a magical stone from another knight Fimbeus, whom he defeated. The stone protected Gawain from the flame of the dragon and from the magic of the wizard Laamorz of Janfrüege.”
I’m not even done with the demo yet, love it.
‘a rather evil magic sword’
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In the words of Zevran, that is a sexy, sexy sword and I MUST have it.
Guen: *swishes sword* Omigoddess look Morgana IT SINGS WITH THE CRIES OF ITS FELLED ENEMIES WHEN YOU SWING IT.
Morgana: Guen, put that evil thing down right this instant.
Guen: What? No way, this is totally my new sword. Also omigoddess LOOK AT THE EVIL SKULL AT THE HILT ITS EYES GLOW AND EVERYTHING.
Morgana: You are absolutely NOT keeping it, Guen, we’re going to throw it into a volcano or a lake or wherever we need to throw it to be rid of it.
Guen: But Morgannnaaaaaa Arthur has a magic sword, why can’t I have a magical sword? *swings sword*
Morgana: STOP SWINGING THAT THING AROUND. And if you want a magical sword so much, we’ll find you a different one. Not one that can summon zombies to fight for you.
Guen: But I want thisssssssssss swordddddddddddd! It’s soooooo coooooool!
Morgana: It’s like talking to one of my children! Fine, keep the damn thing. Don’t come crying to me when it floats above your bed in the middle of the night and commands you to get more blood for the master or something.
OOOOH I love the idea of magical jewelry. The diadem reminds me of Ravenclaw’s diadem, the one that gives wisdom. (Which would actually be a great item idea for Leadership Guen, tbh.)
Also, just looked up magical items in Arthurian myth:
Ring of Dispell- admittedly this belongs to Lancelot, from the Lady of the Lake (or sometimes Guenevere), but it dispels enchantment or illusion. Could be useful for a Leadership Guen, so people can’t manipulate her political or tactical schemes with magic (ala what happens in Choice of Romance).
Lady of the Lake also gives Guenevere a magical shield in some stories. Though that one is romance orientated and doesn’t seem to have much ‘use’ other than curing madness in some cases. It has a lady and a dude kissing but it’s split down the middle so they don’t actually touch each other, and it only gets fixed through consummation. I suppose there is no reason why it couldn’t be given a different magical purpose?
Arthur has a dagger that can cover the use in shadow, which I imagine would be useful for political (hiding and figuring out what people are talking about or scheming) or tactical (sneak into the enemy’s camp and slay the leader) use.
Finished the demo, I must give my support! I thoroughly enjoyed it!
Hmmmm. I’d be quite happy with Guen wielding a spear if she’s a leader. What is Athena, Greek Goddess of Wisdom, Strategy and a bunch of other civic leadership words known to be shown with? A shield and spear. What about Atlanta, only female among the Argonauts, she fought with a spear. Leonidas? Spear. Swiss pikeman? Spears with axes. Ben Kei? Naginata, eastern spear.
The spear has been a symbol of authority and a basic killing tool since humans learned to put a sharpened rock at the end of a stick.
But mainly I want Guen to wield a spear so she could throw it in combat. If there’s an advisor she doesn’t like, she picks it up and just hurls it at him, impaling him with enough force to knock him over.
To be serious, maybe a sceptre that could double as a mace or a crown that could double as a murderous Frisbee. Then again, daggers are simple and effective weapons.
Edit: Swords… if Guen has Light magic, maybe a fey sword, one that is slightly transparent and calms the wielder when equipped. Dark could be jaggard with lots of black and reddish miasma. Gotta have whispering voices as well, urging the user to spill more blood.
For leadership, I’m thinking a classic longsword. Decorated accordingly with an emblem and livery but nothing fancy that would indicate it being a ceremonial weapon. Not a twin sword of Excalibur but one that stats that they are the ruler.
People should be given the choice to fight with the sword or to augment their other style, so you could use the fey sword for combat or for light magic. Again, with leadership, an actual sword will help improve the sword skill while a ceremonial one in the same place would increase leadership. Might not be as good in a fight.
@Taiho Or magic if your a leader, nothing looks smexier then magic at your fingertips.
@Ponku Munchkin is great, but you have to play with people you either hate, or trust to forgive you unconditionally (because the game relies on backstabbing and taking people’s stuff). You know who your real friends are if they play a game of Munchkin with you more than once.
@Pqfire09 Yay! I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the positive comments.
@Ponku @thesunfloweramazon @Taiho Those are all good ideas for leadership items; thank you! I especially like the idea of something that goes on or near the head; I should have thought of that. The split-picture shield is bizarre. I’d never heard of that one, but it sure sounds Arthurian. Spears, sceptres, maces, daggers… also great thoughts. I’m taking notes. And yeah, it’s hard to go wrong with a sword as a symbol of power, even if it’s not being used to bash someone’s head in.
@thesunfloweramazon There’s a very brief conversation somewhat along those lines if Guen tells Morgana she wants the sword. Maybe if Guen actually gets the sword, there will be something even closer to your version. Though it could never be as hilarious.
Yeah, the shield one is weird, lol, but it showed up in quite a few places I looked up to. What is WITH all those images on shields in Arthurian myth? I remember a story where some enemy uses a shield of a knight standing above a king and queen to insult Arthur and Guinevere and Lancelot by implying Lancelot controlled them both behind the scenes (though tbh I always thought that one was hilarious because I thought it was implying they were an ot3.)
And PFT I’m looking forward to that, then! Lol especially can’t wait to see Arthur and Lancelot’s reactions to it.
@jeantown Leadership = persuasion arp that make people desire follow you and give a power boost to your loyal and become mad your enemies
How about a magical banner/battle standard for a high-leadership Guen? Those had a huge significance back in the day. Maybe it could magically inspire those who rally behind it to greatness or give courage to allies who see it? There’s surprisingly few magical items in Arthurian lore that affect more than just the person holding it.
What are the ‘romano-saxons’ supposed to be? It was my understanding that the most roman-cultured people in the area were probably the britons, while the saxons were… ah, not so much romanized.
@thesunfloweramazon Yeah, shields seem to be a hot space for making any thinly-veiled symbolic point anyone feels like making. And I really, really wonder if anyone in the middle ages did consider the A/G/L ot3 possibility… like, it’s just difficult to imagine it never crossing anyone’s mind, especially since a lot of those chivalry stories were written with straight female audiences in mind… but then, people did think really differently, too… I honestly have no idea.
@poison_mara Leadership is indeed becoming the persuasion skill, more and more as I work on part 2. I don’t think they’re necessarily the same thing, but I’m also trying to keep my skill system very simple, so I guess that’s just how it will be. Most of the situations that require persuasion, if they don’t involve the trust level of one of the main characters, do involve some degree of leadership, like if Guen convinces Maris to lie about executing Hrothulf in part 1. So a magic item that empowers persuasion would make sense.
@Leingod I hadn’t thought about the problem that the established magic items tend to affect only one person at a time. That’s a good point. So a leadership item that affects groups of people will probably be a deviation from any established Arthurian item (which is fine, of course, but worth taking into consideration). A battle standard sounds good. I’ll keep thinking about it.
@Golgot The Romano-Saxons are 100% made up, just an imaginary conglomeration of exiles from two groups who are both traditionally opposed to Arthur. In my fantasy-Britain, the Romans are powerful enough that they’ve had some influence on British culture (for example, we find out in part 2 that Guen learned some Latin growing up), but it’s not quite the same as what happened historically in the “real” world. The imaginary Romano-Saxons are exiles from their respective cultures and have joined together to build their power.
I’m not as good with interpreting medieval literature and whether anyone put any sub textual hints to that, but I don’t doubt it crossed anyone’s mind or went into consideration. After all, people have never exactly been ignorant of that kind of thing or didn’t notice (certain time periods just had people pretending they did or didn’t more or less lol).
Most lit I’m familiar with that plays with the idea of the ot3 is all post-TH White lit, which makes sense, since he’s the one that ‘popularized’ subext about it so to speak (and was probably canon in his stories, lbr, as far as Lancelot loving Guen and Arthur both romantically) everyone was in turn influenced by him.
Oops, nevermind, it was explicit- White pretty much canonizes it notes about Lance: “17. Homosexual? Can a person be ambi-sexual–bisexual or whatever?”