The King is dead. Long live the Queen!
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Plot Twist: W-what if King Arthur was actually a manipulative SoB after all. O.o And everything that happened in the legends (and in the Guen-verse) was all a part of his master plan (probably except dying by Mordredâs hand). He probably thought that Guen would be more susceptible to his good guy image so he charmed his way to bed. (If your Guen was that sort of person.)
Hey, if we can make up hundreds of versions of Guens, why not a secretly manipulative Arthur, or an insecure Lancelot, or a mentally unstable Morgana?
Okay. nvm. This is taking a dark turn. Imma stop here.
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No! Stahp! Donât do it, someone would make it happen! The fanfiction! Itâs aliiiiveeeeee DX
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Iâm sorry, I should have been more specific. I knew about the hardening discussion and the many innuendos that occurred; I was wondering about making Arthur a figurehead. I know Guen can accumulate power on her own, and can make things happen behind Arthurâs back, but is there a way we could more-or-less officially make Arthur a figurehead?
This is what I thought first lol,
With the figure head⌠Until I remembered the meaning in English⌠But this is literally a figure head decorationâŚ
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Oh wow, I agree! That could make for a fantastic AU! Honestly I wish I could write itâŚ
Not in this version. He and his younger brother Pelles (Elaineâs father) are definitely more of a threat than TH Whiteâs Pellinore.
When it comes to retellings of Arthurian lit, if it can be done, itâs probably been done. Though Iâm not very familiar with the most recent stuff, I have the impression there are a lot of evil Arthurs out there. He was evil in his highly problematic and unsatisfying appearance on Once Upon a Time. TH Whiteâs Lancelot is like the definition of insecure, and Iâm sure that mental instability has been used more than once to explain Morganaâs villany actions. My version is pretty saccharine by comparison, and I am totally okay with that.
Oh, ok, sorry! I thought you had been around for those discussions; I was just confused.
At the moment I donât have a plan for âofficiallyâ making Arthur a figurehead, though Iâm open to suggestions on what would constitute the difference between Guen just having a ton of behind-the-throne power and Arthurâs figureheadness being made official.
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This one isnât canon, but was done more for fun. This is my âRegime Changeâ Guen, but she is a gracious winner, finding two open jobs for Arthur (upper right) and Lancelot (bottom row). In fact, Arthur has a lot of potential for upward mobilityâŚ
http://lindaroze.deviantart.com/art/Commission-It-s-Good-To-Be-The-Queen-602995440
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Oh, this is both a great piece of art, and it makes me laugh, at the same time! 
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I feel like that should be a trippy dream sequence based on who our Guen actually cares for.
After all, ALL good works of fiction have a trippy dream sequence. ^.^
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For Evil or otherwise not nice Arthur: The aforementioned Ouat, Camelot Lost, Here Lies Arthur, The Book of Mordred, Children of the May.
Basically if it stars Mordred it has a high chance of an unpleasant Arthur.
For an âunstableâ Morgana, she sometimes is if the author doesnât like her, and very often if Guinevere is the main focus or if Mordred is her child. Persia Woolleyâs Guinevere trilogy sticks out in my head though.
Morgause is however very often portrayed as having a lot of issues, much more than Morgana.
Insecure Lance is pretty popular thanks to TH White- he seem to either have extreme self-confidence or is completely self-hating.
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@jeantown How does the game determine whether or not Guen attends the council meetings during the 3 year intermission between games? Just wondering because for example, Jerk Guen supposedly attended the meetings, but she has zero interest in politics. (Though she did contradict Arthur at every turnâŚmaybe thatâs what caused itâŚ)
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Well⌠is this what youâd prefer? 
Poor Ned StarkâŚ
Parallelisms to an Anora and Alistair union maybe? Albeit less blatantly obvious⌠lol. The statement âa ton of behind-the-throne-powerâ just reminds me of Littlefinger/Baelish, Tyrion or Tywin in GoT (S1). Why would Guen need behind-the-throne power when she is Queen? How much formal power does she have anyway? She seems to have quite a lot since she can order the knights around in the doppleganger fiasco.
Oh thanks! I canât really imagine Arthur being evil since reading TH White and watching Merlin. Reading myth analysis on the net also paints him as a sort of all-around good guy. Relatively. I can imagine a stoic Arthur, an idealistic one (Like the Guenverseâs), a stupid one, and a smart one. A very pragmatic one to the point of being ruthless too.
But not evilâŚ
A different perspective might be refreshing.
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Well in Spanish traditional view back before The Quijote, The Quijote killed all the knights stuff forever. Old Arthur was blinded by his own personal problems and sins and become a bad king. However, all the grail stuff and the fact he heavily hurt returned to Avalon make him immortal and goodie again. Lancelot ended in the hell for Judas and cheater traitor . And Guen is happy in Avalon with Arthur. As I said in old Spanish tradition she was not guilty, she was seduced, almost raped for Lancelot . She and Arthur await the moment Britain will be dignity enough to their return. Every day He flights like a beautiful black raven the Ingland sky protecting their citizens.
We are chaotic, but our legends are cool as hell, Medieval Spanish had the urban legend that no English people harm crows scared to death of harm Arthur. And we had erotic old bard poems about Lancelot. Poor lancelot.
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Yes, but being able to command the palace guards because Arthur lets her isnât the same thing as being able to command all of the lords of the land. They bent their knee to Arthur, not to her.
HmmâŚmaybe if she could get Arthur to proclaim her co-ruler, make all the Lords swear an oath to serve her as well, and then abdicate in her favor⌠Some would probably still think heâd been ensorcelled or lost his mind and still rebel however. She could always then appoint him her general/field marshal and send him after them. lol. hmm⌠Alternately, maybe he does all that, but instead of abdicating he dies in battle and she takes over as sole ruler.
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Iâve changed Evil Guenâs name into Noxious Guen, and Iâve replayed Book I with her.
At first, she was very ambitious, yet angry. She wanted to gain power and desired to become Queen, but she felt betrayed by her father. He treated her like cattle, he sold her. However, she overcome her feelings and looked at the situation from a tactical viewpoint. She couldnât stop the marriage even if she wanted to, so she decided to make the best of it.
She put up a facade and manipulated Arthur, Lancelot and Morgana. She tried her best to be as kind as she could with them. She would do anything to gain what she wants. She had sex with Arthur, flirted with Lancelot and tried to make Morgana love her , even if she had no feelings for them and was both asexual and aromantic. In fact, she despised them. She would love to break them, to see how they fall apart, only for her personal enjoyment.
First and foremost, she hated Arthur and thought that he was a foolish hypocrite, blinded by his own naivety. She couldnât stand him and was disgusted by his affection. Lancelot was just another boring fool and she quickly got tired of him. Morgana was the only one she liked, and even if just a little bit, she respected her.
Everything was nothing more but an act and she awaits the day when she will be able to be her true self.
In the next few days I will replay Book II. I hope there arenât any grammatical mistakes, English is not my first language.
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Donât worry about your language to much @Achylis. Most people are pretty cool about such things on the forum, especially with as many non-native English speakers as there are.
Heh, and amazingly, my primary Guen (the one I first played as) felt the exact same way that yours did about her father, and she would definitely have it in for him.
âYes Daddy, I may be your daughter, but Iâm also your Queen. Guards, throw him in the dungeon for a month for his disrespect of my royal personage.â
âButâŚbut GuenevereâŚâ
â10 lashes with the whip as well for refusing to use my title.â
âHoney, donât you think you are being a little harsh with your father?â
âFine, give him just 5 lashes. Oh, and two more for luck. It is his birthday after all.â
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Thanks, but I donât like having grammar mistakes. I tend to be a bit of a perfectionist xD
I love the way your primary Guen would react~ I think my Guen would have him beheaded, she wouldnât want to have any feelings left for him as they may become a weakness.