Guenevere (WIP)

@Skulls and @Elfwine

Just a thought, when my MC romanced Lancelot in Book 2, he doesn’t seem to care that he’s romancing Arthur’s wife. Which is weird, because in Book 1 he said se doesn’t want to do it since he doesn’t want to hurt Arthur.

Lancelot is weird.

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2: Lancelot doing things to Guen is not the same as merely dedicating trophies to her, though.

3: I see several things with him having a “complicated” expression peeking at the code.

@NJG Which scene are you looking at?

@Elfwine

Basically, that happened when I

(MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD!)

Escaped Grimald’s ship, swimming ahead of Morgana, saving Lancelot from the fae wolf, and having sex with him. Also, my MC kissed him in Book 1 and has a huge romantic interest in him. And my MC hates Arthur.

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2: Whether he is doing things to her or dedicating trophies he is still giving his attention to a lady off limits and apparently he is doesn’t seem that guilty about it.
3: Maybe, however after while you start to act on how you feel, which is what he did in part 2.
@NJG why yes he is.

@skulls, I don’t think dedicating trophies counts. After all, there’s nothing wrong and scandalous in dedicating trophies.

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@NJG : Men and hormones.

@skulls

2: Dedicating trophies is not “doing anything to a lady off limits”. There is nothing in his vows, her vows, or anything else I am aware of that says he’s not allowed or not supposed to do that.

3: Which is being blown up to be something far more dramatic than a kiss that he immediately apologizes for, for the sake of bashing him.

@Elfwine

Huh. Lance is weird.

Also, did I just partially ninja’d you???

@NJG Might’ve. I consider it indicating it’s not just me - I’ve never heard anything where dedicating trophies to a married lady is unknightly, although it can be the first step in unknightly behavior, it isn’t in and of itself contrary to the virtues and vows.

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@NJG and @Elfwine, I would’ve agreed with both of you hands down if Lancelot dedicated his trophies to “both” his lords. Why only Guen? Why not Arthur since that’s his best friend? If there is truly nothing going on why just her?

Why not only Guen? What about the whole business of dedicating trophies has to be anything more than “Hey, Guen is a cool woman and I want to honor her.” - whereas he doesn’t exactly have to make the point he feels that way about Arthur?

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So the women you just met has given you enough information about herself to start dedicating numerous trophies to? Even though in part 1 he doesn’t even have the basic idea about her or in part 2 how he avoided her so much he barely saw in three years? But dispute all that he feels the need to honor her with trophies, a complete stranger? heck, if it was Arthur I would’ve understood, at least with that he’d been saying “hey he’s my best friend and Lord so this is my appreciation”. But Guen, …forgive me but no.

She’s not a complete stranger. And “enough information” - what, somewhere in the chivalric code it says you can only honor someone you’ve known for two years or more?

Edit:
If you personally think this is something you - and/or your Guen - don’t want, I’m not saying there’s something wrong with that, but there’s a big gap between “what I personally would be okay with” and “what’s contrary to the chivalric code and/or other oaths he swore”.

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Nowhere , but you don’t have to know that person for years, just know sufficient knowledge about that person. Can you honestly say that Lancelot knows anything about Guen other than how she felt on her wedding day, her skills (possibly), how she feels about Arthur, Him, or Morgana?

I’m not saying you should feel the same way me or my Guens do, to be completely honest I’m glad you don’t. It gives something interesting to debate about.

I can honestly say that the game does not give sufficient information to answer what Lancelot knows about Guenevere accurately, and I can definitely say that “sufficient knowledge” is so ambiguous that there are people who if I was that sort of person I’d consider what I learned in the first week of knowing them enough.

Of course, Guenevere isn’t Twilight Sparkle.

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:neutral_face: you agreed with me?! I was not expecting that. If so, allow me to be push my luck! Lancelot and Guen can be considered practically strangers? And Lancelot is a hypocrite?

No, I said that the game does not give sufficient information to answer what he knows. Or in other words, I can’t honestly say he doesn’t know anything about her besides that either.

And I think hypocrite is going too far.

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:unamused: so close, only to be let down down so far.
Well, may you please tell me what Lanelot is in your mind and why is it that I am wrong?

A fallible, imperfect human being who clearly does desire Guenevere and whose moral scruples may or may not be sufficient to resist that.

You seem to be holding him to the idea that if he isn’t completely without desire for Guenevere that it amounts to the same thing as screwing her everytime they’re together.

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Heck, aren’t we all fallible? “Desires Guen” huh? … at least we can agree to that. But why not a hypocrite?

Lancelot is trying and potentially (but not necessarily) failing to uphold the virtues he claims to have.

He’s not claiming to believe in things he doesn’t believe in.

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