I was telling my friends about the poly relationship option, but I forgot the name and ended up calling it King Arthur Marriage Simulator. One of my friends has decided that that is what they will call it forever more.
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Will arthur always be so⌠derpy?
Thats literally the best way to put it.
He is the right mix of clueless naive and lacking of common sense.
He has consistently made me facepalm.
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- Ok, Iâve noticed that despite how cruel Guen can be to Arthur he still tries to be the optimistic good guy, so in part 5 when/if Guen decides to enter the tournament of knights will Arthur (being the protector he tries to be) try to talk her out of it out of concern for her safety or will he just be so âhardenedâ by then that he wonât even bother?
- One day will there ever be an option for Arthur (who has been mistreated for years) to say something like, âGuen you are my wife and I will always respect and protect you as long as we are bound by marriage, but screw youâ?
- At the end of part 2 if someone were to obtain and conquer Meliganut himself and his sword what exactly could we do with the giant ?
- In part 6 when Guen is accused of treason wouldnât she be powerful enough (in dark magic, sword, or light magic) to discreetly eliminate that person or group of people herself?
- If Arthur were to mess up again in the future will there be an option for a ruthless Guen to say something like " your incompetennes is exactly why I am banging your best friend/ or sister?
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It is more than a little alarming that breaking someoneâs mind is considered a lesser evil than the fact Arthur is an optimist.
When did this become A Game of Thrones?
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Arthur is kinda⌠stupid sometimes.
Which is to say he is a savant at life.
Pro strategy
No common sense
And sometimes being willing to do anything for peace is stupidly bad if everyone in tgis game has super powers. Arthurâs would be heart.
And besides breakings someones mind has its benefits.
Okay, speaking as a misanthrope, Arthur being called stupid because heâs an optimist makes about as much sense as the people who âHey Britain is a land of ruthless barbarians with no sense of morality.â is the same as âdonât mess with usâ.
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What I mean is you can only be so optimistic.
When you are so optimistic that letting sheep into a castle for cause they like sheepâŚno
Arthur would invite an assassin to dinner if he apologized.
If Arthur was as stupid as some people think he is, heâd have died before the start of book 1.
Were the sheep stupid? Yeah.
But one would think Meligaunt tried to stab him at dinner, or something like that.
By stupid I mean that sometimesâŚa good amount of times he doesnât think things through.
Not to say he is ultra useless. Its just that right now besides being the nice guy and the king and his strategy skills he lacks.redeeming qualities. Lance is skilled with a sword, tempered with some caution and a kinda nice guy. Morgana is smart has black magic nice and cautious. There are just some people who donât come across as overly naive.
Not to say I hate arthur or such its just.
Can he have some caution. Some?
He does have some caution.
It just happens that âsome cautionâ and âparanoid assumptions that anyone who isnât completely and beyond any possibility of a doubt known to be perfectly trustworthyâ are not the same thing.
For the love of Celesita, what basis does he have to assume the Frankish ambassadors are insincere/dangerous (as of asking Guen to talk to Meligaunt)?
âHe did something that threatened you several years ago. Clearly heâs incapable of anything else.â is decidedly past merely ârecognizing some people have bad intentions.â
Iâm not saying be ultra paranoid. Just donât implicitly trust people, less so in politics. Maybe its just that to me sometimes things fly right by his face.
He is ultra straight forward.
What does he think he is the hero of some legend or fairytale.
Does he plan to save the day with a magical sword?
Im curious its fine to not kill nobles on the battlefield.
But did we even capture him. Like really its fine to let them live. Just capture them.
And I am saying that you are saying exactly that unless and until you can point to something that actually indicates Grimald and Meligaunt are a threat with the information Arthur could be expected to have - we the players know where the story is going, but Arthur doesnât.
And itâs totally not as if capturing nobles as opposed to âkill them all, then kill their children, rape their wives and kill them tooâ was something actual medieval rulers did.
Iâm not saying Arthur is a political genius - heâs clearly a person who trusts others more than prudent - but we donât have a lot actually making it clear where âprudentâ is before hindsight comes in, especially in the context of Meligaunt and Grimald, who havenât shown repeated hostility or consistent treachery yet.
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Iâm not saying.
âMeliguant tried to kill you a few years ago when you were a teenagerâ means he canât do anything else. Im just saying if someone who was so desperate to rule then tries to murder kid to get power then gets kicked by said kid means that he might be out for revenge and he might not have the best intentions.
Plan for it.
Thats literally all I want to tell him to do.
If someone attempts to murder you then you win.
On a fluke no less donât think he will be all buddy buddy with you. Be slightly guarded.
AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY
donât give him any unrestricted access to your castle
Dont fill your house with sheep and add more chaos.
Donât leave your important crap unguarded. (Wife, yourself,Macguffins)
Basically avoid giving him chances to stab you in the back.
Arthur would turn around and show it to you if you asked cause you were curious.
He just isnât a politician in any way.
Maybe have some guards watching your wifeâs room and yours.
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Guards on the rooms might be a good idea, but guarding everything will get expensive fast - and introduce new vulnerabilities. How do you know you can you trust the guards, yeah?
And what I want you to do is offer one single scrap of evidence that Arthur asking Guenevere to talk to him (and letting him in the castle at all) is the same as âHereâs my unarmored back, hereâs a dagger in case you want to stab it.â, or refusal to have guards, or giving Meligaunt unrestricted access, or anything else of that sort.
Yes, Meligaunt might be a threat. You know who else might be a threat? Anyone else in that room. Arthur doesnât offer to explain all the castleâs vulnerable points, he doesnât give Meligaunt permission to come up to their (his and Guenâs) room/s, he doesnât do anything suggesting that heâs dismissing his guards.
Was what he did insufficiently cautious in hindsight? Definitely. Without it, what suggests Meligaunt should be treated as the sort of person dishonorable and dangerous enough to violate hospitality and thus not be to treated as an envoy?
âWe were enemies once.â is not a reason. What is he doing in this situation?
Iâm not in favor of assuming anyone is buddy buddy, but Iâm not seeing âassuming he comes with peaceful intentsâ as the same thing.
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Not guarding anything of importance is leaving your back unarmored. And when dealing with potential enemies always assume they have a dagger it doesnât mean you can see it.
And while they didnât explicitly give him access to everything they still left the vulnerable areas unguarded. Leaving thimgs unguarded is an invitation its just not an explicit one. Its like dealing with a past thief.
You donât call the guards to watch your house but dangit hide the valuables.
Murderers might kill again
Thieves might steal again
Plan for it.
He should have had some guards watching her room.
Hell have 1 or 2 do it and thats good enough for me.
But leaving your room and your wifeâs unguarded.
Without telling the servants âdonât let him hereâ
Or anything.
He placed no defences and made no preparation.
And when you deal with foreign relations you always prepare for treachery. Politics and treachery are pretty close.
We have Guenâs guards (as in, specifically Sir Maris and Sir Bretta) watching at the first meeting. We have the guards looking for the real Guen in the situation where the doppelgangers are confusing things. Or are those just figments of Guenevereâs imagination?
This âAlways assume they have a daggerâ is well beyond âsome cautionâ. Itâs âassume that everyone who might possibly be a threat is one, even in situations that violence would be taboo in a society that takes violations of taboos seriouslyâ.
âPotential enemiesâ is far too broad a category to simply assume every situation is a potential assassination or kidnapping and come with swords out and armor on.
Iâm not saying dismiss all guards, Iâm saying the guards mentioned are the kind of response one would expect to be sufficient in a situation one isnât dealing with people known to be treacherous.
In the doppleganger things are already too late and the job of our two bodyguards is to watch guen herself not their rooms just guen.
You might argue why watch the roo, when they are next to guen but the reason are obvious.
To prevent things from being taken.
Its almist impossible for arthur to have zero understanding of magic
he almost always has his back shown.
He is pretty unguarded and extremely trusting.
Hell if I had a shot I could kill him because I doubt he has his room guarded.
Also having someone who is bigger and stronger than you who tried to kill you before and he is in your homeâŚunwatched thats the perfect time to be at least somewhat guarded.
Have some guards patrol
At least some and make sure he isnât snoopong and taking our crap.
Also
Sheep donât eat necklaces.
In other words: Have some guards doing what they are actually doing in the story?
Arthur is being somewhat guarded. But apparently it doesnât count unless half a company is standing in the doorway at all times. Nevermind that we still have nothing suggesting Meligaunt is a threat at this time except âHe tried to kill you seven years ago which totally indicates that heâs a threat right now because I donât have to have reasons, just paranoia.â, we need to have the guards lined up immediately outside the room at all times - whether itâs occupied or not. Edit: What reason does Arthur have to expect someone capable of using magic with ill intent is in the castle in the first place?
I doubt you could get at Arthur so easily as youâre suggesting unless we see the guards simply disappear at night.
And natural sheep donât eat dresses either.
Iâm not going to say Arthur is doing this perfectly, but thereâs a very wide chasm between âhe failed to do enough with hindsightâ and âhe did nothing at allâ. Trying to insist on the latter is going to take something more than âyou should assume anyone who was your enemy at one point is your enemy at this pointâ.