She’d also have to have a penchant for needless violence. Have to go kill evildoers for phat loot.
Okay, everyone, I’ve made a note to add a “take everything” option.
And sure, @NJG, Guen ought to be able to take Hrothulf’s axe – why didn’t I think of that? It’s now on the list of part 1 edits (not that I have any idea when I’ll get to those).
@Nasdaxow I’ll, um, keep the dirty plate request in mind? If such an opportunity should arise and be plot-relevant, who knows? 
@derekmetaltron Your Guen should be okay. Light Magic will be more helpful than Leadership on the Michaelsmount branch. I want any Guen to be able to succeed on any branch; some things will just be easier for some Guens than others.
@stsword Morgana is as helpful as Lancelot on whatever branch she ends up on; it just may be more difficult to get her where you want her to be. As far as how much help they provide on the different branches, it’s about even, to be honest. Maybe once everything’s written I’ll decide to change that, but for now, I’m juggling so many different things that I’m letting them provide a comparable level of help (in different ways) no matter where they go.
Oh, thanks. Now that I think about it, what about Hrothulf’s sword, helmet, uniform, saddle, etc? The MC could keep some of it, and sell the rest. Since his stuff are of excellent quality, it’ll fetch a good price.
Also, who exactly is the Camelot guard captain?
@jeantown
Can we use at least some of the loot we took from Hrothulf. I would like to wear the pendant, hair necklace, or crest to the diplomacy meeting with Tilda and Meliguant. The other diplomats need to be reminded of what Britain does to her enemies. If we can wear the loot then you can add a sentance where Tilda/Meliguant look at it then talk about the Saxons as usual.
What happened to Hrothulf’s body and head if he is dead?
The first thing I thought about when I learned of the double ganger spell was the lock of Hrothulf’s hair I had. It might have been too risky for Meliguant to use it and Morgana would not allow Guen to make a Hrothgar double on the ship because that would be unhelpful and get them killed. Corneilia is a sorceress and would know that Hrothulf is a double, but if the Saxons attack, a dark mage Guen or Guen who is friends with Morgana can put the hair to good use in the future.
This might be too spoilery, but would the Saxon daughter care that her father was killed? Her parents are the ones who tried to force her to mary someone who she never met and is a bad husband. Guen’s father (does he have a name? I’ll just call him Pa Pa Guen) forced my Guen to mary Arthur and then permanently (?) ditched her. Pa Pa Guen didn’t even send letters like Morgana or trophies like Lance; he just forgot he even had a daughter. Pa Pa Guen is not nice so I wonder how the daughter feels avout about Hrothgulf.
Can Guen tell Lance about the relationship with Morgana while Guen is in a relationship with both of them and ask him not to tell Arthur or Morgana about anything. It would be Lance’s decision if he decides to tell.
@Sovereign2Lilith “Britain treats her enemies like crap, because moral standards are for sissies.”
is not exactly the impression I’d want to give Tilda.
There’s “What do you do to your enemies?” “We destroy them.” and then there’s just looking like a punk, in the sense of this scene:
Killing Hrothulf already makes a statement on ruthlessness, wearing trophies from it doesn’t make him deader.
When I saw your post, I immediately thought of the MC meeting Duchess Tilda and the MC is wearing Hrothhulf’s complete military uniform, his knife, hair, family crest, axe, sword, etc.
Yo my Guen was too classy for that ish.
‘Is he dead? Good. Now let’s go lie to my husband.’ /sashays away
I’m a little late for the disscussion on what to take from Hrothulf, but i’m not sure about “taking everything” option. I haven’t thought about it earlier, it always felt normal to take one token and we just choose which one caught our attention first. More as a memorablia than taking everything that can be of value/useful.
I think that it doesn’t suit the queen to just go to the corpse of man she killed and loot everything from him. She is queen of britain, not a loot hoardera fter all 
If there is going to be a “take everything” option, it should have tangible consequences. Stripping the body of the Saxon leader of everything and thus disrespecting his corpse would have a good chance to incite the undying hatred of all the Saxons, not just their Queen.
Additionally, would that have consequences for his afterlife according to the beliefs of the time?
At some point leaders were buried with their most important worldly possessions (including weapons) so they would have them afterlife (I think).
I’m not especially firm in this area, but I think that should be the time of the burial mounds.
In any case, the corpse of their leader should be important to them. If you steal everything he wears, you better be prepared to face the consequences.
Not to mention the reactions of Arthur, Lance and Morgana to your looting.
Killing him is one thing, stripping his body of everything he has something else entirely.
Yeah, I’m going to agree that full looting is just more than I can do with this story. As @Ponku and @Nasdaxow have said, Guen is a queen, so personally looting a corpse would be rather aberrant behavior and need to be treated accordingly, and I’m already losing the scope-creep battle. It’s not that it isn’t an interesting idea, it’s just that I want to be able to finish the game someday. 
@NJG The Camelot guard captain is an unnamed NPC who isn’t really very important for the plot; he’s just there because somebody has to be in charge of the castle guard. 
@Soverign2Lilith I had originally intended for Cornelia and Hrothulf’s daughter to show up later in the game, but I had to combine that storyline with something else, so now I’m not sure if we’ll ever see or hear from Julia. I’d like for her to make an appearance, but not at the cost of moving the plot forward. I’m not sure, at the moment, how she feels about her father’s death or her parents’ attempt at marrying her off.
Guen’s father is named Leodegrance, and he does care about her a great deal. I haven’t mentioned him sending her letters or visiting because it’s not relevant to the immediate plot concerns, but you can assume he’s doing those things. He’ll be the one to bail out Camelot if the Frankish invasion isn’t halted.
I do want to increase the options for Guen to tell Lancelot if she’s involved with Morgana. Right now she can only do it as part of telling him she’s not interested in him; it ought to be possible for Guen to tell Lance she’s interested in both him and Morgana. I’ll work on that.
In any case, if he knows about Morgana and Guen, he won’t tell Arthur.
It always struck me as odd whenever RPG heroes stopped what they were doing to strip the corpses of the people they just killed. I wonder why their party members don’t go, “Dude, ohmygod, what are you doing?! We’re in the middle of saving the world, we don’t have time for you to rob dead people!”
I could see that to a point, but we don’t see many RPG heroes as desperate for good shoes as - to use the first people to mind - soldiers of the Army of Northern Virginia.
And “But we are! We need +6 boots of asskicking” just feels weird and wrong.
Oh thinking of something, wouldn’t a lock of the king’s hair make a great focus for a nasty dark magic spell?
“You’ve got a real nice husband there, it would be a shame if he turned into a frog. Ribbit ribbit. Love, Guen”
@jeantown Guen #11 has been created!!!
Credit for the original idea goes to @poison_mara. It was such a good idea, I couldn’t help myself from stealing it! 
I’m not sure about the nickname though. Going Good Guen? Ex-Evil Guen? I’m at a loss. 
WARNING: It’s that time of the month again. Time for a long, LONG post.
Anyway, this Guen starts off Book I ruthless, cynical, and rather, shall we say… morally questionable (some would call it “evil”-but that’s such a harsh word). Events from her past have led her to believe that people are monsters…and the only way to survive and succeed in life is to beat them at their own game. Arthur is an absolute moron for thinking otherwise, and is just asking to get killed. This Guen views him as a lost cause, and thinks that it’s all she can do to stop him from dragging the entire nation down with him in his naive stupidity. She already had to save Britain from his foolishness once (by defending Camelot in Book II-which he totally abandoned), and lives in fear that one day there will come a disaster even she can’t fix.
But as the years pass and Arthur’s hardening process continues, this Guen’s feelings towards Arthur will slowly change for the better. Unlike Ruthless Guen, this Guen has nothing against Arthur’s ideal of democracy (or at least she wouldn’t, if she could manage to listen to a full sentence of his without internally rolling her eyes), only his idiotic means of achieving it.
So at a certain point in the hardness scale, when this Guen no longer feels the need to facepalm every 10 minutes, and no longer wants to kill him out of sheer frustration, she’ll…actually listen to Arthur’s hopes and dreams and ideals, rather than merely pretending to. And she’ll find herself…agreeing with some, disagreeing with others, thinking some could work with a few tweaks. They’ll probably have a lengthy debate.
But though ARTHUR’S trust level may go down (as it’s the first time in their entire marriage she’ll actually disagree with him, rather then just telling him what he wants to hear, then doing what she wants behind his back), her own trust in Arthur will go way up. It’ll be the first time in her marriage, and probably one of very few times in her adult life, this Guen has spoken honestly to someone rather than putting on a show. And though she does not, and will not EVER agree with him on everything, this Guen will begin to respect Arthur and slowly, slowly fall in love with him. And as she does that, a bit of Arthur’s kindness will rub off on her, just like some of her pragmatism and practicality influenced him. While this Guen will never be a saint, I’ll definitely give her a few moments of showing compassion where before she would previously have been utterly ruthless.
I have to say, I really like this couple. Well, okay, I like every Guen/NPC pairing I create, but this one is shaping up to be one of my special favorites.
I personally love how they will balance each other out and each compensate for the other’s flaws. That will hopefully not only make for a strong (if occasionally volatile) marriage, but a strong kingdom as well. Not to mention, it’s a total subversion of the whole “Love at First Sight” thing, which is rather overused in my opinion. 
Thanks for reading this ridiculously long post, and I hope I didn’t put anybody to sleep! 
Can I suggest, on the ship after being captured, when Grimald apologizes for capturing Morgana and the MC, can you add an option to spit on Grinald’s face? Even though she’s a queen, spitting on someone’s face considering the circumstances seems acceptable.
@stsword That would indeed be fun. 
@buggygirl11 That’s lovely! It’s the sort of thing I really hope I can enable – if that sort of relationship is possible, this game will do what few games with romance seem to have achieved: a relationship with a complex progression over time, where the changes in the relationship are relevant to, and affect, the larger plot. I really, really hope I can make this work. And, as always, reading about each of your Guens is like reading a great short story. 
@NJG Hmmm… I’ll add that to the list of things to consider. Thanks! 
I read the first part of the demo and really like where you’re going with this. The writing is fluent and engaging and draws you into the story. I also like that you haven’t made Morganna automatically the enemy from the start (in a more “Merlin” fashion than the traditional legend) and look forward to seeing what happens with her character as well.
@jeantown Does having Lancelot come with you to chase after Morgana basically give double the bonus, or at least let you have both of them come with you for whatever path you’re going on?
@Jacic Thank you!
I’m trying to write Morgana in such a way that the reader could imagine her eventually being perceived as an antagonist, but if/when that happens, her motivations will make sense. (And Guen’s influence will determine whether Morgana ultimately stands with or against Arthur.)
@hishman13 If Guen and Lancelot go together to look for Morgana, all three of them will end up on the same branch, though the choice of which branch will be more limited. If Guen has both of them with her, it will basically be impossible for her to fail on that branch, unless her idea of success is different from theirs – if Guen goes to Michaelsmount in order to make sure something bad happens to Arthur, Morgana and Lancelot may work against that particular outcome.
@jeantown, does Arthur have a brain problem or some kind of sickness that he’s not telling the MC?
Edit:
Does “necromancy” exist in the game?
