And it’s not limited to penises. Romeo and Juliet (probably others, I just half-remember the ones there) also goes for puns involving vaginas. Because of course it does.
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Well, out of respect for the one who created the platform where we started our plans for World Domination, I’m sure we can arrange something.
How about a nice government position with free and secure housing, directly attached to her working place where she can perform daily for the masses, behind a thick pane of glass so that no one can act against the mime?
Of course, while planning the building layout we will make sure that nowhere on her way between the Priso… the house, and the working place will she stumble upon the words “Enemy of the State Exhibition” and the text detailing the subversive and destructive influences mimes have on the good of the people.
We will also be in need of a couple propaganda writers, if I might extend the offer…
@Elfwine
That’s why I would have Guen gain her trust (read: love) first (in Book 1 and 2 we can already pretty much pull her in), and go to her immediately after the attempt when the news of someone trying to kill her son is still fresh (thus the irrational state you mentioned).
Of course, a single mistake in this and the coming years and everything blows up into her face big time.
@Monk65
Elaine, I like that. Let’s go with her.
Aside from that I think poisoning from another country would be the only feasible alternative if we’re going by drama.
Revenge from Morganas son for his wronged mother, the valiant royal guard or the heroic mage who slay the evil monarch are to… good. This would be skirting dangerously close to a “happy end”, in a way.
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@jeantown If a low-leadership Guen goes to Camelot and makes some horrible mistakes during the siege, will the people hate her more or less than if she doesn’t come?
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Ultimately, Guen’s father will arrive with his army to bail her out, so the country won’t be taken over by Franks. But if Guen doesn’t put up a good fight in the meantime, towns and farms will be pillaged, people will be dead, the castle will be damaged, and Guen will not be thought of fondly by the people (basically the same consequences as if she doesn’t go to Camelot at all or send help)
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Does that answer it adequately?
I’m asking about the case when Guen is previously known to be a bad leader. Would the people still expect her to do something?
@Nasdaxow You’d need an awful lot of trust for that, IMO, though. Morgana might be in a still shaky period of her life and her unaided opinion of Arthur not too warm at the time, but you are suggesting something pretty extreme.
Could work. Could blow up. I just hope it’s set so that unless you’ve really and truly won her over - not just made “a good friend” but become someone skeptical Morgana would struggle to disbelieve - it ends badly, even if it also ends badly for Arthur.
That’s partially the part of me that does want bad people to have bad endings, though. This is a pretty cruel thing to do to Morgana and Arthur. Perfectly interesting option - just decidedly unkind, no matter what you think of either.
Thanks, everyone, for providing some entertainment during what was a very long and stressful day of work yesterday. I now have like 5 minutes before I have to leave for work again (ugh), so I’m going to try to pick out the things that are recognizably questions, and I apologize if I don’t answer something that was intended as a question – please just ask again! 
@suburbanbeatnik Part 4 indeed! Mordred will be five years old.
@Mim Hm, I don’t think the game will get so dark that Guen will be able to talk anyone into suicide, but she will be able to ruin people’s lives. As for abusing Arthur and crying… maybe if the right opportunity comes up? I’m a little reluctant to write physical abuse that isn’t a response to a physical assault (as when Guen can attack Lancelot), but maybe there will be a way for me to do it without totally hating myself.
I would very much like to achieve that.
@Nasdaxow 
Absolutely loving the Shakespearian Arthur. I wonder why Shakespeare didn’t write an Arthuian play?
I keep going back and forth on this. Originally, that was the plan, but now I’m not so sure… but Guen will be able to do something awful to her, for sure.
People will be equally unhappy, but if Guen tries and fails to defend Camelot herself, then they’ll hold her more responsible; if she doesn’t go there, they’ll blame Arthur.
N’aw, didn’t mean abusing Arthur! ^^; I love him too much!
Just…like Maria x Tony when he slips through the window and she pathetically hits his chest, crying.
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I have no idea why I have this idea in my head.
Question: Mordred will grow up knowing Arthur is his dad, yes? This is due to his magical know how or Morgana telling him? If his magical know-how is the case, do others know he knows?
@Mim Actually someone’s going to tell Mordred who his father is in part 4… and I’m not saying who. 
Arthur, Morgana, Lancelot, Guenevere, and a few other people will know that Mordred knows, but it still won’t be public knowledge at that point.
Come to think of it…for this Guen, that might work a whole lot better. I read when I googled Arthurian legend that Guinevere was very jealous of Lancelot’s affection. So I’m going to give Canon Guen a bit of a problem with jealousy (which she began to show when she was rude to Tilda in Part II…while Tilda was pretending to flirt with Lance, at least.)
I don’t think she could actually bring herself to murder Elaine in cold blood (though she might have a fantasy about doing so every now and again), but make her life miserable…oh yeah.
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I love this so much. It’s like the Camelot version of Mean Girls. “Lovers are just off limits to friends, Elaine. I mean that’s just like the rules of feminism.”
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@jeantown
I’d love to see how an unrequited love triangle with a lesbian or bisexual Guen who loves Elaine who loves Lance who loves Guen would develope.
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@buggygirl11 Glad you approve! Guen will definitely be able to feel and express jealousy toward Elaine.
@KelaSaar ha, maybe I can try to take some inspiration from Mean Girls at some point.
@WulfyK OMG how have I not thought of exactly that?!?! That is beautiful! I guess the sticking-point is that Elaine won’t really be in love with Lancelot – she’ll care about him, but not super-romantically, and she won’t be jealous if he’s involved with Guen. That said, the thought of Lancelot being in love with Guen while Guen is in love with his wife would be just an amazing twist on Arthurian tradition in general – like, someone should write that as a novel or something.
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That would be so fetch.
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Oh I have a question- Is long range magical communication just not a thing, even in emergencies?@stsword
It would be helpfull if you clarified what exactly you mean by long range
Anyway i think Answer is
MERLIN !!!
It was indicated that making peace with the queen of the franks wouldn't stop the attack, due to lack of communication.
But this is a world with magic, it seems rather odd that a monarch couldn't arrange for a magical message to the effect of "FYI, the war is cancelled, it would be totally awkward if you attacked, PS Bring me back a souvenir."
Or for Guen to send a magical message to Morgana or to the court. "Going to rescue Arthur from getting his ass killed in a trap, the franks are attacking, sent Lance to arrange peace. Chow"
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@stsword I’m not sure what’s so odd about it. Just because it’s possible to do X with magic doesn’t mean it’s possible to do Y, let alone Q.
Either from magic in this setting not being able to do that sort of thing, or magic users with that ability not always being around - if a given kind of magic is something only a half dozen people in Western Europe know, them being available and willing for any given event/s is hardly a given.
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If it were possible, it would have to fall under dark magic, so, as @Elfwine says, there wouldn’t be many people who could do it. In any case, I guess we have to deduce that either it’s not possible, or Morgana doesn’t know how to do it, since if she could, she would no doubt have sent Guen (not to mention Arthur) a message by now.
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